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		<title>By: Borgar</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-105295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borgar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, im so glad i found this, i&#039;va had a couple of these laying around only to frustrate me

but after reading this and a few minuttes trying i got it working

thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, im so glad i found this, i&#8217;va had a couple of these laying around only to frustrate me</p>
<p>but after reading this and a few minuttes trying i got it working</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a few of them, and a bit of printed acetate, you can make a rotary encoder that&#039;ll tell you the absolute position of a shaft... might be a cheaper way of getting some positional feedback on all manner of projects if you&#039;ve got the photo-interrupters already lying around?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_encoder#Optical_Absolute_Encoders

offers a few clues for anybody who&#039;s not done it before - one challenge might be to figure out allowing for the physical offsets between the interrupters as it may not be possible to stack them in a straight line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a few of them, and a bit of printed acetate, you can make a rotary encoder that&#8217;ll tell you the absolute position of a shaft&#8230; might be a cheaper way of getting some positional feedback on all manner of projects if you&#8217;ve got the photo-interrupters already lying around?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_encoder#Optical_Absolute_Encoders" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_encoder#Optical_Absolute_Encoders</a></p>
<p>offers a few clues for anybody who&#8217;s not done it before &#8211; one challenge might be to figure out allowing for the physical offsets between the interrupters as it may not be possible to stack them in a straight line.</p>
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		<title>By: Roly</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Googling &quot;photo interrupter&quot; produces 20,000+ hits, many leading to data sheets that are far more informative, e.g.;

http://www.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/ZD1901.pdf

and 20+ devices at;

http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws/photo-interrupter

@36chambers - oh the complexity!  How about replacing the whole lot with a couple of light dependent resistors (LDR&#039;s) a.k.a cadmium sulfide (CdS) cells, as *direct* light controlled cross-faders?  These are as cheap as dirt but can also be found in appliances such as auto-dimming alarm clocks and night lights.

http://www.doctronics.co.uk/ldr_sensors.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googling &#8220;photo interrupter&#8221; produces 20,000+ hits, many leading to data sheets that are far more informative, e.g.;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/ZD1901.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/ZD1901.pdf</a></p>
<p>and 20+ devices at;</p>
<p><a href="http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws/photo-interrupter" rel="nofollow">http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws/photo-interrupter</a></p>
<p>@36chambers &#8211; oh the complexity!  How about replacing the whole lot with a couple of light dependent resistors (LDR&#8217;s) a.k.a cadmium sulfide (CdS) cells, as *direct* light controlled cross-faders?  These are as cheap as dirt but can also be found in appliances such as auto-dimming alarm clocks and night lights.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.doctronics.co.uk/ldr_sensors.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.doctronics.co.uk/ldr_sensors.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: 36chambers</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[36chambers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gnuz, reverse engineered the DJ Focus OPtical Fader for Skratch DJ mixers, which is baysically just 2 photo interrupters on either side. When the fader is all the way to either side, the sound from that channel is cut off.

[img]http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7991/diyopticalfaderpcb5qg.png[/img]

This is compatible with all mixers accepting a 50K ohm fader.

More Details here;
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=63585]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gnuz, reverse engineered the DJ Focus OPtical Fader for Skratch DJ mixers, which is baysically just 2 photo interrupters on either side. When the fader is all the way to either side, the sound from that channel is cut off.</p>
<p>[img]http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7991/diyopticalfaderpcb5qg.png[/img]</p>
<p>This is compatible with all mixers accepting a 50K ohm fader.</p>
<p>More Details here;<br />
<a href="http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&#038;threadid=63585" rel="nofollow">http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&#038;threadid=63585</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@farthead...  not all photointerrupters have part numbers stamped on them.

@moogle...  a good place to start would be to learn how led&#039;s and transistors work.  led&#039;s have a forward voltage drop of approx. 1.7 volts.  the other side would be the transistor side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@farthead&#8230;  not all photointerrupters have part numbers stamped on them.</p>
<p>@moogle&#8230;  a good place to start would be to learn how led&#8217;s and transistors work.  led&#8217;s have a forward voltage drop of approx. 1.7 volts.  the other side would be the transistor side.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle Hazelwood</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyle Hazelwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have a box full of 1000X of a part like these but are both pointing out.I can’t figure out how to use them though.&quot;

Yours are intended to see a reflective surface.
a  bit of shiny silver tape and you&#039;ll be watching the world go by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have a box full of 1000X of a part like these but are both pointing out.I can’t figure out how to use them though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yours are intended to see a reflective surface.<br />
a  bit of shiny silver tape and you&#8217;ll be watching the world go by.</p>
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		<title>By: farthead</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[farthead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tachikoma  you&#039;re joking right?   I can buy them all day long.

Digikey, Jameco, most of the surplus places have them.   They are ultra easy to source.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tachikoma  you&#8217;re joking right?   I can buy them all day long.</p>
<p>Digikey, Jameco, most of the surplus places have them.   They are ultra easy to source.</p>
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		<title>By: farthead</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81351</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[farthead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@moogle, there is a very secret thing on the internet called &quot;google&quot;  if you go there and type in the super-dooper secret numbers on the side of the device you can get the &quot;Templars secret decoder&quot; that is called a &quot;data-sheet&quot; to give you the holy pinout and example circuit if you are lucky and holy enough.

Or you can learn electronics and how to use a multimeter and pin out a Phototransisitor, or transistor..

It&#039;s a secret site, I got from the super secret google...  SHH Dont SPEAK IT&quot;S NAME!

http://www.electronics-radio.com/articles/test-methods/meters/multimeter-diode-transistor-test.php

very few people know abut this, so dont tell anyone!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@moogle, there is a very secret thing on the internet called &#8220;google&#8221;  if you go there and type in the super-dooper secret numbers on the side of the device you can get the &#8220;Templars secret decoder&#8221; that is called a &#8220;data-sheet&#8221; to give you the holy pinout and example circuit if you are lucky and holy enough.</p>
<p>Or you can learn electronics and how to use a multimeter and pin out a Phototransisitor, or transistor..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a secret site, I got from the super secret google&#8230;  SHH Dont SPEAK IT&#8221;S NAME!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.electronics-radio.com/articles/test-methods/meters/multimeter-diode-transistor-test.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.electronics-radio.com/articles/test-methods/meters/multimeter-diode-transistor-test.php</a></p>
<p>very few people know abut this, so dont tell anyone!</p>
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		<title>By: googfan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[googfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they are just leds and phototransistors right?

updated my site. Check it out!!! got a villrad cascade now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are just leds and phototransistors right?</p>
<p>updated my site. Check it out!!! got a villrad cascade now.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic, I just found a few of these in my bits box today and was thinking of testing them out. Printers are full of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic, I just found a few of these in my bits box today and was thinking of testing them out. Printers are full of them.</p>
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		<title>By: pc486</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pc486]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are more kinds of photo interrupters than what was listed in the article. You&#039;ll also find them as &quot;optical switches.&quot;

The type covered under the article is a very simple and inexpensive type of photo interrupter. The thing to watch out on these types is that they are more analog than digital. Hook this type to a Schmitt trigger (74HC14 will work) if you are having trouble getting clean output.

Some photo interrupters include conditioning and other features. I just picked up some OPB460s (http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/89728.pdf). These include an on-board Schmitt trigger and open collector output with integrated 10k pull-up (OPB461 omits this pull-up).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more kinds of photo interrupters than what was listed in the article. You&#8217;ll also find them as &#8220;optical switches.&#8221;</p>
<p>The type covered under the article is a very simple and inexpensive type of photo interrupter. The thing to watch out on these types is that they are more analog than digital. Hook this type to a Schmitt trigger (74HC14 will work) if you are having trouble getting clean output.</p>
<p>Some photo interrupters include conditioning and other features. I just picked up some OPB460s (<a href="http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/89728.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/89728.pdf</a>). These include an on-board Schmitt trigger and open collector output with integrated 10k pull-up (OPB461 omits this pull-up).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@24601: You can find the emitters and detectors in old ball mice, but unless it&#039;s a *really* old mouse, they will be soldered directly to the PCB and not in a nice little enclosure like the one pictured.  I&#039;m not saying the individual components aren&#039;t useful, but you have to do more mechanical work yourself to actually mount the separate emitter and detector, etc.

Better sources are devices like printers and scanners where they&#039;re used as limit stops; you&#039;re more likely to find them as nice, easily reusable packages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24601: You can find the emitters and detectors in old ball mice, but unless it&#8217;s a *really* old mouse, they will be soldered directly to the PCB and not in a nice little enclosure like the one pictured.  I&#8217;m not saying the individual components aren&#8217;t useful, but you have to do more mechanical work yourself to actually mount the separate emitter and detector, etc.</p>
<p>Better sources are devices like printers and scanners where they&#8217;re used as limit stops; you&#8217;re more likely to find them as nice, easily reusable packages.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake of All Trades</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake of All Trades]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a big photo-interrupter hooked up to my PC o-scope, making a quite handy tachometer for measuring fan speeds and clock pendulum timing.  Hurray for tools made from junk!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a big photo-interrupter hooked up to my PC o-scope, making a quite handy tachometer for measuring fan speeds and clock pendulum timing.  Hurray for tools made from junk!</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@24601: i believe so, I think i still have a few kicking around too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24601: i believe so, I think i still have a few kicking around too.</p>
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		<title>By: 24601</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/12/photo-interrupters-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-81268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24601]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[can&#039;t you get small versions of these from old &quot;ball&quot; mice?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t you get small versions of these from old &#8220;ball&#8221; mice?</p>
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