Comments on: AVR ISP programming via Arduino

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:01:52 +0000

Gotta love the Hack A Day crowd! I’ve visited this website numerous times searching for some piece of information on my various projects.

There is one constant I’ve noticed in the comments on every article in here. That is, at least one pretentious moron mouthing off about how this or that hack is somehow wrong, even when it isn’t.

I’ve observed that most often, when one criticizes another using such dubious reasoning, it is a pitiful attempt at compensation for one’s own failings. Merely an attempt to make oneself look better by making those around look worse.

By: Jean auBois

Jean auBois — Sat, 15 May 2010 22:04:15 +0000

Oh great – I fear that I’m going to be difficult about this. To begin with, ain’t it grand to have to bootstrap yourself SOMEHOW (with another burner, of course) just to get it working. And, of course, either you have to etch a board yourself or go to PCB123 or someone or other. And then, you’ve got to buy the parts – not outrageously expensive, but still a hassle. And then – the absolute kicker for me – I CANNOT SOLDER EVEN 1/10th inch center boards any more because I’ve got “intention tremor”. I’m great at large movements, but the finer the control I attempt to exert, the more my hand(s) shake. Kind of makes SMD useless, I fear. I must agree with the person who asked “Why do this at all?” I suppose it has to do with an obsessive “DIY” ethic or something. Personally, I’d LOVE to buy such a device (pre-programmed) at a decent price, but I simply am not capable of building one. Poor little me, eh? Oh… I _can_ buy one of several choices over the Web? I guess it isn’t ‘poor little me’ after all.

By: asd

asd — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:18:53 +0000

nnooooooooooooooo

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:35:27 +0000

what’s an ardunio?
I only know about this thing called the arduino.
can this be uses to program ATMEGA328′s?

By: Leeky

Leeky — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:48:33 +0000

Please correction for No.9 in How to make

9. You need attach some parts for make a AVRISP, See linked Cirduit diagram.

By: Leeky

Leeky — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:43:59 +0000

I was made avr-isp mkI clone that working fine at AVR Studio, AVRdude and CVAVR from did not modifiy any parts of Arduino Decimailla.
Firmaware used ATMEGA168-20AU and 16MHz crystal.

Circuit of AVR-ISP mkI of Arduino.
http://www.avrtools.co.kr/technote7/data/board/download/file_in_body/1/arduinoavrispconnect.JPG

Firmware Hexa File included Arduino_Program for like a Arduino Sketch upload with hexa file.
http://www.avrtools.co.kr/technote7/data/board/download/file_in_body/1/Arduino_Prog.zip

How to make AVR-ISP mkI clone.
1. you need a Arduino Decimilla
2. Download Arduino_Program and decompress
3. Connect Arduino Decimailla to USB port of PC
4. Double click Arduion_Program
(Vista and Win7 users must change to XP-sp2 compatible at file proferty.)
5. Select a firmware of AVR-ISP-V2.hex at decompreed folder When you pressed Brows button.
6. Press Program Button.
7. Done modify Arduino to AVR-ISP compatible for AVR Studio, Now you can connect AVRISP/STK500 in AVR Studio like a AVRISP mkI standard.
8. Don’t worry, You can download any firmware from your Adrduino Sketch (ICE).
9. You need attach some parts for amke the AVRISP, See linked Cirduit diagram.

Ref : http://www.avrtools.co.kr/technote7/board.php?board=download&command=body&no=103

Good Luck
From Leeky at avrtools.co.kr

By: lekernel

lekernel — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:34:24 +0000

AVR chip + Veroboard would also introduce them to microcontrollers, as well as simple soldering. if they want to learn about electronics, that’s what they need instead of keeping their belief that soldering dip packages is difficult.

imo the only legitimate customer of arduino boards is the electronics guru in such a hurry that (s)he cannot afford to solder an atmega chip to some piece of pcb.

By: Pete

Pete — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:05:28 +0000

The positive side of the Arduino is that it DOES introduce newcomers to microcontrollers and it doesn’t manage to mess them up too bad if they want to migrate to the more advanced AVRGCC/WINAVR to do some “normal” embedded C coding.

By: YenTheFirst

YenTheFirst — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:44:58 +0000

@therian

“web shops that selling Arduino shold have mandatory psychilogical test to detect and ban “artists””

Funny you should say that, as the stated purpose of the arduino is to be a simplified, easy-to-learn platform for “artists, designers, hobbyists, and anyone interested in creating interactive objects or environments. ” [arduino.cc], very first paragraph.

If one has real technical skill, it’s perfectly acceptable to use things other than the arduino, especially when they’re more efficient, or more appropriate.

The WHOLE POINT of the arduino, though, is to enable non-technical artists to experiment and create with electronics, and create new things.

I personally threw together an el-cheapo AVR programmer, to reset my own arduino when it got caught in a watchdog timer loop. But, if I wanted to do real _ICSP_, being able to make a more reliable programmer would be especially helpful.

By: robocat

robocat — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:27:39 +0000

@razorconcepts: Looks like it to me. I haven’t tried to use this method of programming yet though – will soon!

By: noobius

noobius — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:14:47 +0000

“Am I the only one who built a lpt port avr isp programmer?”

nope, mine is a dapa. it’s just wire to wire…no resistors, no chips, nothing. works every time.

By: lekernel

lekernel — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:03:48 +0000

in progress !

By: Agent420

Agent420 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:54:20 +0000

Am I the only one who built a lpt port avr isp programmer? Some designs are as simple as 3 resistors, though the 1 chip 74244 driver can drive longer cables.

I started out years ago on the AVR with the 8535, a crystal and a D25 cable – total investment around $8.

http://www.dontronics.com/dt006_programming.html

http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/MICRO/ENV/AVRprog.gif

By: therian

therian — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:06:45 +0000

web shops that selling Arduino shold have mandatory psychilogical test to detect and ban “artists”

By: Drone

Drone — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:26:21 +0000

This is old hat. It doesn’t do HVSP, so you can’t program some important fuses. Get an AVR Dragon from Atmel, it’s great and does in-circuit debug too with processors having 32k or less.

I like AVR micro-controllers; the free AVR Studio + WinAVR tool-chain is decent too. But I don’t like the Arduino. The stupid gap between the I/O connectors is not 0.1″ spaced and the whole elitist artsy-fartsy community surrounding the thing is a put off.