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		<title>By: Nintendo Guy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-116319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nintendo Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a pretty cool idea for using your NES controller, although the flash drive is quite big.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pretty cool idea for using your NES controller, although the flash drive is quite big.</p>
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		<title>By: braneman</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-109173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[braneman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well if it works as a usb nes controller then a lot of people wont know it was a flash drive until they fire up an emulator and play contra.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well if it works as a usb nes controller then a lot of people wont know it was a flash drive until they fire up an emulator and play contra.</p>
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		<title>By: gezepi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gezepi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty cool.
I wonder if there is enough room inside the case to add a usb hub so it could function as a flash drive and as an NES controller for your PC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool.<br />
I wonder if there is enough room inside the case to add a usb hub so it could function as a flash drive and as an NES controller for your PC.</p>
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		<title>By: charlosky</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-101355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charlosky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hello]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello</p>
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		<title>By: Haku</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-100733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haku]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could simulate the click with a small pizo speaker connected to the microcontroller...

Ow, stop throwing 500A contactors at me, analogue folk! ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could simulate the click with a small pizo speaker connected to the microcontroller&#8230;</p>
<p>Ow, stop throwing 500A contactors at me, analogue folk! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: blizzarddemon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-100609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blizzarddemon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That click is quite satisfying to us old analog folk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That click is quite satisfying to us old analog folk.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadyman</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-100601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shadyman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@atrain: Most USB Thumbdrives will take upwards of 100mA when under full load (reading or writing). And, most microcontrollers can only source or sink +/-25mA. 

As you suggest, a transistor would work, though wiring the power directly to the Arduino probably would not. A relay is a bit overkill, but maybe he wanted the satisfying click of it kicking in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@atrain: Most USB Thumbdrives will take upwards of 100mA when under full load (reading or writing). And, most microcontrollers can only source or sink +/-25mA. </p>
<p>As you suggest, a transistor would work, though wiring the power directly to the Arduino probably would not. A relay is a bit overkill, but maybe he wanted the satisfying click of it kicking in?</p>
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		<title>By: Haku</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-100556</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haku]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone should take this a step further and incorporate a flash drive into a Simon game so you have to get X number of sequences correct before you get to use the drive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should take this a step further and incorporate a flash drive into a Simon game so you have to get X number of sequences correct before you get to use the drive.</p>
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		<title>By: atrain</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-100550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atrain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why a relay? Why not just run it off the arduino directly, or through a transistor? Not like it needs that much current...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why a relay? Why not just run it off the arduino directly, or through a transistor? Not like it needs that much current&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very curious why he didn&#039;t just cut out the matrix decoder and wire the buttons directly to a flash drive that already has a pushbutton lock feature (maybe because the controller has 8 buttons and those drives only have 4?). I cut out the decoder for my wireless NES controller mod to attach the buttons directly to wireless numeric keypad hardware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very curious why he didn&#8217;t just cut out the matrix decoder and wire the buttons directly to a flash drive that already has a pushbutton lock feature (maybe because the controller has 8 buttons and those drives only have 4?). I cut out the decoder for my wireless NES controller mod to attach the buttons directly to wireless numeric keypad hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Haku</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haku]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[16GB USB flash drives are as little as £17.50 (play.com), got 3 of them, very nice &amp; very fast.

If you want to prevent someone from easily just bypassing the code you could cover it all with epoxy - sure it wouldn&#039;t prevent the most stubborn but it would stop it being easy.

Despite it not being very practical it&#039;s a nice hack, and some of the best ones aren&#039;t practical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16GB USB flash drives are as little as £17.50 (play.com), got 3 of them, very nice &amp; very fast.</p>
<p>If you want to prevent someone from easily just bypassing the code you could cover it all with epoxy &#8211; sure it wouldn&#8217;t prevent the most stubborn but it would stop it being easy.</p>
<p>Despite it not being very practical it&#8217;s a nice hack, and some of the best ones aren&#8217;t practical.</p>
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		<title>By: aztraph</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/10/11/nes-controller-storage-with-security/comment-page-1/#comment-100485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aztraph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mixed feelings about this. on one hand, it&#039;s an awful lot of trouble for just 1 gig, but i wouldn&#039;t want to sacrifice a 16 or 32 gig until i tested it on a 1 gig. second, all it takes is a screwdriver and jumper wire and you can bypass the relay so it&#039;s not very secure. 

overall a wonderful start, i hope he moves it up to a larger storage of solid state drive and remolds the case and seals it with epoxy. this has a lot of potential]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mixed feelings about this. on one hand, it&#8217;s an awful lot of trouble for just 1 gig, but i wouldn&#8217;t want to sacrifice a 16 or 32 gig until i tested it on a 1 gig. second, all it takes is a screwdriver and jumper wire and you can bypass the relay so it&#8217;s not very secure. </p>
<p>overall a wonderful start, i hope he moves it up to a larger storage of solid state drive and remolds the case and seals it with epoxy. this has a lot of potential</p>
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		<title>By: daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daryl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@babble Ha! All your base are belong to us!

On a related note, this would be cool to use as some sort of door access system (if you could set up a timeout to prevent brute forcing). Another option would be to unplug the controller from the door (and carry it with you like a key). With the micro controller storing the last ten buttons even on a successful code entry, there&#039;s a slight problem if someone ever gains read access to that array. But then again, I would go with a brute force attempt first knowing that you only have 8 buttons... we can infer that he&#039;s pressing 10 buttons and then estimate that there are just over 1.073 billion options... given the UI, I would start the brute force at UUDDLRLRAB as a guess to try and shorten the number of combinations tried before success.

But who cares? This is up there with the external hard drive hidden in an old battery-less uninterrupted power supply. Nice work Joven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@babble Ha! All your base are belong to us!</p>
<p>On a related note, this would be cool to use as some sort of door access system (if you could set up a timeout to prevent brute forcing). Another option would be to unplug the controller from the door (and carry it with you like a key). With the micro controller storing the last ten buttons even on a successful code entry, there&#8217;s a slight problem if someone ever gains read access to that array. But then again, I would go with a brute force attempt first knowing that you only have 8 buttons&#8230; we can infer that he&#8217;s pressing 10 buttons and then estimate that there are just over 1.073 billion options&#8230; given the UI, I would start the brute force at UUDDLRLRAB as a guess to try and shorten the number of combinations tried before success.</p>
<p>But who cares? This is up there with the external hard drive hidden in an old battery-less uninterrupted power supply. Nice work Joven.</p>
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		<title>By: babble</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[babble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I would prefer to use DULLARD though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I would prefer to use DULLARD though.</p>
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		<title>By: babble</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[babble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked it</p>
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