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	<title>Comments on: [M]ouse: a PS/2 to c64 adapter</title>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-108362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wwhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, it&#039;s not the FCC that I care about but rather the radio interference that gets into my stuff.
It just seems so incredible it was approved.
No &#039;white space&#039; within 30 yard of an c64 I can tell you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, it&#8217;s not the FCC that I care about but rather the radio interference that gets into my stuff.<br />
It just seems so incredible it was approved.<br />
No &#8216;white space&#8217; within 30 yard of an c64 I can tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: tehgringe</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tehgringe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@McSteez &amp; therian

The mouse may look a bit goofy with the cable pointing vertically but I work on a small desk with plenty of desk fodder around, and one of the most annoying things is the bend in the mouse cable when it pushed up against something.

I would like to have one of these mices :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@McSteez &amp; therian</p>
<p>The mouse may look a bit goofy with the cable pointing vertically but I work on a small desk with plenty of desk fodder around, and one of the most annoying things is the bend in the mouse cable when it pushed up against something.</p>
<p>I would like to have one of these mices :)</p>
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		<title>By: pookeye</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pookeye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, it really isn&#039;t so much of an issue of who&#039;s interested in the FCC as it is whether or not the FCC is interested in YOU.

@svofski said: don’t quite get the interest people have in the FCC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it really isn&#8217;t so much of an issue of who&#8217;s interested in the FCC as it is whether or not the FCC is interested in YOU.</p>
<p>@svofski said: don’t quite get the interest people have in the FCC.</p>
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		<title>By: svofski</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[svofski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I made a video that shows what exactly is happening on POTX/POTY lines of C64&#039;s control port when a 1351 mouse moves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KRaEUDPHY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a video that shows what exactly is happening on POTX/POTY lines of C64&#8242;s control port when a 1351 mouse moves:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/j-KRaEUDPHY/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: cantido</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cantido]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;PS/2 is serial, but it is NOT standard RS-232.

RS232 != &quot;Serial&quot;. RS232 is a &quot;type of serial communications protocol&quot;. SATA is serial, doesn&#039;t mean you can plug a &quot;serial mouse&quot; into it does it? 
Even if PS/2 was RS232 compatible, RS232 only defines low level stuff like signalling levels, data representation, so two &quot;RS232 mice&quot; for different platforms could use totally different protocols on top of RS232, so you would still need some sort of translation.

&gt;Graham Simpson

There have been PS/2 -&gt; Amiga mouse adaptors for yonks. I think there have been schematics up on Aminet for the best part of a decade. Individual Computers have also produced all sorts of similar stuff over the years,..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;PS/2 is serial, but it is NOT standard RS-232.</p>
<p>RS232 != &#8220;Serial&#8221;. RS232 is a &#8220;type of serial communications protocol&#8221;. SATA is serial, doesn&#8217;t mean you can plug a &#8220;serial mouse&#8221; into it does it?<br />
Even if PS/2 was RS232 compatible, RS232 only defines low level stuff like signalling levels, data representation, so two &#8220;RS232 mice&#8221; for different platforms could use totally different protocols on top of RS232, so you would still need some sort of translation.</p>
<p>&gt;Graham Simpson</p>
<p>There have been PS/2 -&gt; Amiga mouse adaptors for yonks. I think there have been schematics up on Aminet for the best part of a decade. Individual Computers have also produced all sorts of similar stuff over the years,..</p>
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		<title>By: svofski</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[svofski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Wwhat: don&#039;t quite get the interest people have in the FCC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wwhat: don&#8217;t quite get the interest people have in the FCC.</p>
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		<title>By: tnt23</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tnt23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Graham Simpson
Amigas don&#039;t support paddles or joysticks with analog outputs AFAIK. Shouldn&#039;t be hard to tweak the design for Amigas I guess.

Cool hack anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Graham Simpson<br />
Amigas don&#8217;t support paddles or joysticks with analog outputs AFAIK. Shouldn&#8217;t be hard to tweak the design for Amigas I guess.</p>
<p>Cool hack anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107479</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wwhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t quite get the interest people have in the c64, and if I had one working and in use what I&#039;d mod first is the lousy shielding, how that thing ever got through the FCC I&#039;ll never know.
Its shielding was a piece of thin cardboard with aluminum foil stuck to it, for those that don&#039;t know. and if that wasn&#039;t bad enough it just folded along the length over the top but left 3 sides open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t quite get the interest people have in the c64, and if I had one working and in use what I&#8217;d mod first is the lousy shielding, how that thing ever got through the FCC I&#8217;ll never know.<br />
Its shielding was a piece of thin cardboard with aluminum foil stuck to it, for those that don&#8217;t know. and if that wasn&#8217;t bad enough it just folded along the length over the top but left 3 sides open.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Simpson</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should totally do this for my A1200, now that I have an oscilloscope! I could also hook in my Cyborg digital as a joystick...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should totally do this for my A1200, now that I have an oscilloscope! I could also hook in my Cyborg digital as a joystick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t the sort of hack that really interests me, but the documentation and write up is so perfect, and the actual hack is so neat. Inspiring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the sort of hack that really interests me, but the documentation and write up is so perfect, and the actual hack is so neat. Inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only person that would like to use a C64 as a PS/2 keyboard for a PC?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only person that would like to use a C64 as a PS/2 keyboard for a PC?</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, PS/2 is serial, but it is NOT standard RS-232.  In any case, the C64 uses an analog mouse.  I actually designed a mouse driver that will run a PS/2 mouse off of the user-port of a C64 DTV.  Look here: http://galaxy22.dyndns.org/dtv/common/ps2mouse/index.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, PS/2 is serial, but it is NOT standard RS-232.  In any case, the C64 uses an analog mouse.  I actually designed a mouse driver that will run a PS/2 mouse off of the user-port of a C64 DTV.  Look here: <a href="http://galaxy22.dyndns.org/dtv/common/ps2mouse/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://galaxy22.dyndns.org/dtv/common/ps2mouse/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: therian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[therian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[really good hack, but what the hell wrong with this mouse ? it looks so ridiculous]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really good hack, but what the hell wrong with this mouse ? it looks so ridiculous</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;People who are not afraid of using a real Commodore 64 in 2009 tend not to experience shortage of real PS/2 mice.&quot;

So true, so true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People who are not afraid of using a real Commodore 64 in 2009 tend not to experience shortage of real PS/2 mice.&#8221;</p>
<p>So true, so true.</p>
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		<title>By: doc</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/11/14/mouse-a-ps2-to-c64-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-107358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Load &quot;*&quot; , 8 , 1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Load &#8220;*&#8221; , 8 , 1</p>
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