XKCD takes a swipe at the Arduino

posted May 8th 2010 9:00am by
filed under: arduino hacks, news

This XKCD comic takes a playful swipe and almost everything, including the Arduino. We’ve heard people claim that we have some sort of favoritism toward Arduino, and we don’t. People just submit a LOT of projects with them. But there is one point that we’ve seen a few times that should be addressed. In our categories we have an “Arduino hacks” section. That will not be going away, again, because we get so many submitted. However, shouldn’t we also add some categories for other stuff? Should there be a “pic hacks” category, or maybe just “microcontroller hacks” category?

Let’s not making this an Arduino bashing thread. Instead, give us some good ideas on other categories you would like to see for sorting.

[via littlebirdceo]



97 Responses to XKCD takes a swipe at the Arduino

  • blubb says:

    I think a pic section is a good idea!

  • Jeff says:

    I see lamps, but no blue LED’s…

    (blogs are harsh)

  • geeklord says:

    If you’re going to add a PIC category, an AVR category would be great.

  • Torsten says:

    How about a little bit more…
    Instead of static sections one should be able to select (multiple) tags to limit what one is looking for.
    See sourceforge and other websites who recently upgraded towards this kind of dynamic selection.

    Allow little tiny nasty cookies to be saved to remember the settings and all the arduino-haters and lovers can life in peaceful coexistence.
    BTW. I don’t think more static sections are helpful, if you open up a PIC section, the ARM people might shout and the 80C51 oldtimers, and the Japanese Motorola-people, and if the have enough power the TI MSP430 will try to argue as well…..

    Expand tagging and make a more flexible selection possible

  • Anonymous says:

    I agree with Torstein. A hashtag system like Gawker uses would be easier to keep up with, and you wouldn’t be stuck with a pile of static categories to dig through and manually keep up with.

  • jacob says:

    There’s nothing wrong with the arduino. It makes hacking and custom projects accessible to everyone. Just because people aren’t coding these things by hand in binary doesn’t mean it’s any lesser. Haters can suck it.

  • cantido says:

    If you’re going to hate anything hate XKCD.. what a bunch of utter drivel.

  • cb88 says:

    @jacob… hacking in binary what are you talking about… microcontrollers are programed in C for the most part and a few times assembly which isn’t as hard as you might think.

  • Am I just retarded.. or is there no way to navigate through the previous posts or categories besides the “previous page” button…? which means I have to click it like 500 times just to go back a few months?

  • Sebastian says:

    Electric eel, squirrel, and flux capacitor ftw.

  • joseph says:

    How is this a hack?

  • Walky says:

    @joseph

    Because it has an Arduino on it, of course :D

  • Dennis says:

    How about a category for the Parallax Propeller!

  • PocketBrain says:

    I saw it. It was funny. I might get me a ‘duino.

    p.s. How is this a hack? OMG there are ads on the page, how is that a hack? They use HTML, how is that a hack? I’m viewing this on my Windows PC in Internet Explorer, how is that a hack? I’m using the Human eyes I was born with to view the web, how is that a hack? I breathe oxygen, how is that a hack?

    • austin says:

      the eye is just a hack of a bunch of photosensitive cells, windows is just a hack of a hack of a hack of the BASIC language for the altair 8800, internet explorer….come on…do i need to say anything? and..everything in biology is a hack of a hack of a hack…

  • Squirrel says:

    @ohmresistance once you get past page one, in the address bar it is something like http://hackaday.com/category//page/2/
    Just replace the 2 with whatever page you wish (just be careful you don’t 404)

    There. A Hack for HackADay. Was that so hard?

  • Mikey says:

    Ummm HaD already has dynamic tagging… not sure what the other posters are on about…

    I don’t see why you need a section for each micro, just groups: simple micros like arduinos, mindstorm, basic stamps, propeller, etc.. and hard core I programmed I with a magnetized needle and a steady hand (or in c) micros like avr, pic, 80xx, arm, etc..

  • Squirrel says:

    @Mikey or maybe do it like eBay or Amazon where you click on a category tag, then from there you can either just view results or select a sub-category (i.e. Microcontroller Hacks > PIC Hacks)

  • Brian says:

    Dynamic tagging, hashtagging, and logic searches (ie: linux AND avr NOT arduino) would all be great, but that wouldn’t mean we should necessarily drop the static sections. What might help would be some hierarchical static sections. You could, for example, have one top level section for microcontrollers, and then you could have pic, avr, ARM, and arduino as subsections.

    I am well aware that what goes where could likely cause flamewars to develop EVERYWHERE, but the conventions as _where_ to include _what_ would be better discussed in its own thread. I am sure that everyone will have their own opinions, and we all know what they say about opinions….

  • Urza9814 says:

    @cb88

    …I believe jacob was trying to make a joke. When you program in C, it all gets converted into binary anyway. C is just something we use to make it easier. Same thing for the Arduino. It’s all a microcontroller, the Arduino is just a framework that makes it easier to use. So I believe Jacob’s point was that complaining that an Arduino makes it too easy is like complaining that programming in C makes it too easy.

  • CorporalAris says:

    Arduino haters are just elitists, nothing less, nothing more.

  • Tachikoma says:

    I laughed at the arena: two goes in… one comes out…

  • Victor says:

    xkcdsucks.blogspot.com

    Ultimate XKCD haters blog that is pretty horrible at dissing xkcd, which makes it pretty entertaining. Also their bad insults have spawned several xckdsuckssucks blogs

  • Anonymous says:

    @CorporalAris: I don’t hate Arduinos, I just hate most of the ways they’re reported as being used (and to think, I don’t even complain that “it should only be used for prototyping, not the final project!”).

  • Chuckt says:

    I have a link to a news article where Atmel was in the Red (owed money) so just imagine the cartoon if they went bankrupt; “Yikes! I don’t know how to program that other microcontroller.”

  • dcept905 says:

    I like the idea of being able to filter out or search based on multiple tags. It doesn’t have to necessarily mean NOT to add more categories tho. I mean, whatever makes sorting easier and more practial sounds like a good idea. While you’re at it how about something to moderate/vote/collapse comments from asshats? I’m so sick of seeing 50 morons post “durrr! oh noes! not more ardweeeno!” just to get to a few good/constructive comments. If people don’t appreciate a free place that they can go to view multiple new posted projects per day, and are just intent on shitting on everyone, they should get kicked in the ballsack IMO. It’s disrespectful to the people who put the time into the projects as well as the people who take the time to submit/report/write about them on here.

  • Mike Coles says:

    1> Gags
    2> Equipment
    3> Rants
    4> Reviews
    5> other than electronic hacks
    6> Arduino/Mattel/Fisher-Price/Vista
    7> Avr
    8> Xmega
    9> PIC (P, IC??)
    10> Electronics 101 (Formulas, theories, examples)
    11> Biological hacks (5a?, Atkin’s Diet, ph leveling, EEG, EKG)
    12> Dangerous Electronics (high voltage, high power LASER)
    13> ham
    14> Dangerous other (explosives, DIY Chemistry)
    15> Household hacks
    16> DRM breakage
    17> Nudity (exposing chip internals)
    18> Reverse Engineering

    I’m spent.

  • bogdanfirst says:

    I did find that a “MICROCONTROLLER” hacks section was missing ever since I found hackaday for the first time.

    I see Arduino as an accessible microcontroller playing thingy…(both as complexity and price). It’s overkill for most projects, but it provides a simple way of getting the job done. It’s there for a fun project, so don’t get lost in getting the maximum efficiency. Though, I don’t use the Arduino platform. Or any other development board for that matter. I like my projects with dedicated hardware.

  • jancans says:

    I sugest to use less word “hack”. What do you mean with “PIC hacks”? Personaly I have seen only few PIC hacks on internet, one of them was, when Russians burned some inputs to use them as diode.
    IMHO when something is used for what it’s manufactured (PIC, AVR, arduino …), it dosn’t count as hack.

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    Well, no matter what changes are made to the categories, there should be a prominent category at the top that would function as a filter for the word “Arduino.” No post containing the word “Arduino,” be it in the title, description, write-up, or even in the comments, would be able to reside in that category. The category itself should not even be named “Arduino-free,” as merely the sight of the word would cause undue duress to the most intelligent, capable, and deserving visitors to this sight.

    Imagine – once the word “Arduino,” or anything related, pops up in a comment, that post is automatically removed from the category. Our elite friends will be free to live their lives free of anguish and high blood pressure.

  • Sodor says:

    Well….

    Microcontroller based projects section is the best idea and is not racist because the word “microcontroller” include STM08, Zilog, PIC, Atmel AVR, ARM, MPS430, and a large etc. Then if the section is flooded with AVR projects (Most of them with Arduino board I think) who cares? it will remain as microcontroller section.

    Almost forgot: Arduino is not a microcontroller!!!!! is a project board based on AVR microcontroller.

  • Physics-Dude says:

    I found another cartoon with arduino in it…

    http://xkcd.com/521/

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    On a less aggressive note, I have to agree with ohmsresistance. It would be nice to see page number selection capability added to the pager, and to have this browsing tool located at both the top and bottom of the web page.

  • Jimmy Sultan says:

    XKCD sucks. Always has, always will.

  • Shadyman says:

    Yep, the “Arduino, for blog cred” was the running joke at QuahogCon, since that XKCD had just come out at that point.

  • mach says:

    i cant understand arduino haters. i didnt use arduino but why not i use if it makes things easier?

  • M4CGYV3R says:

    XKCD is routinely hilarious, but this may be the funniest one yet.

    I love the 1 mi antenna, the ‘Omit this if you’re a WIMP’ wire, and the ‘not a resistor, wire just does this v^v^v’

    OMG! @ the huge ball of resistors. Teachers have actually made me calculate stuff like that for exams.

    Also holy crap @ 500v AC vibrator…

  • osgeld says:

    I thought it was great

    when it popped up on the arduino forums LAST MONTH

  • J Harton says:

    @Torsten: No 6502 sections, or maybe Z80?

    As you say, there could potential problems there. If we really want that, then a section for microcontrollers and a section for microprocessors ought to be sufficient.

  • Chuckt says:

    Sodor,

    Could you please explain your comment:

    “Almost forgot: Arduino is not a microcontroller!!!!! is a project board based on AVR microcontroller.”

    It sounds interesting.

    Does Hack A Day reject microcontroller hacks that aren’t arduino?

    Chuck

  • willc says:

    I guess nobody realized the irony that it made it on a blog site for the soul reason that it even mentioned the Arduino. I find this hilarious for how there is a serious response to a innocent joke. I would honestly not take it personally and enjoy the fact that the Arduino is on the way to replacing lego mindstorms for kids as well as entry level hobbyists.

    As for how to organize the site, it would be nice to see a PIC section… especially once someone finds a homebrew ICD3 with a linux driver, but I’m not holding my breath.

  • Way to get HaD to create a category:
    1. Get a blog. If you already have one, excellent! Skip this step. If not, go to blogger or wordpress and make a free one.
    2. Write post which could fit into desired category.
    3. Submit story to HaD.

    Seriously, they’ve posted more of my stuff than not. I got a little tired of the Arduino stuff too, so I stopped using Ardunios in the projects I submit. Bam! Less Arduinos.

  • wot says:

    @joseph and all…

    I don’t think the problem is so much with the Arduino as it is with they way they’re used.

    They’re not a replacement for knowing what you’re doing. At least, they’re not supposed to be. If you’re using a $60 Arduino in place of a LDR and maybe a transistor, to make a LED dimmer (or whatever other basic device)… you’d be better off with Google than with anything else. It’s easy to misuse them.

  • maxdamage says:

    My aren’t we getting defensive

  • zeropointmodule says:

    ROFLMAO!!!!!! :)

    kudos for the flux capacitor..

    On the flip side, i came up with a circuit similar to this using ONE quad comparator (MC34004P) that does something impossible.
    Converts the first two LVDS signals from an LCD panel output (using an aspire one as the panel is easy to get to) into red and green LED outputs depending on both colour and scene brightness.

    No clue how it works but somehow it does.
    according to the datasheet this chip can’t handle much more than 5 MHz so its a factor of ten too slow.

  • wot says:

    guys, i just built this. that clump of resistors magnetized, except for the actual resistor part (just the wires turned into a magnet)

    it like, latched onto my keys. I mean, it _latched onto my keys_ and it wouldn’t come off. I tried sliding it off and everything, but it just wouldn’t budge.

    It got really hot, then my arduino vanished. I don’t know what’s up, but this circuit is strange, man. Just strange.

  • Ragnar says:

    I’ll never understand the Arduino-bashing. I don’t own one, will never do. I use the bare µCs, because I know how to. But the Arduino gives the option to people to do µC-stuff without getting too deep into the matter, people who would have never thought they could do µC related stuff. And that is a good thing. I wonder if half the haters even know how to program anything…

  • wot says:

    you guys aren’t gonna believe what happened.

    i’m gonna try to dig up that flux capacitor instructable. Shit’s real, man. Shit’s real.

  • Sodor says:

    @Chuckt

    Ahh is because some people comments refers to arduino as a microcontroller and the microcontroller is really the AVR on the arduino board, well is my point of view :).

    I don’t think that Hack a Day reject microcontroller hacks that aren’t arduino.

    Ultimately, there is a search here at the top of the page that can be used to find PIC projects and if the people that love the PIC want some attention like arduino, why not do more projects with the PIC and post it? so the PIC can have its own section.

  • slobo says:

    maybe make an ARM section and put in it Arduino, PIC, ARM9, and so on.

    Just a quick idea^^.
    (hackaday rulez in France)

  • JimSocks says:

    I still think the system will work more effectively if the Arduino had a serial connection to a can of Dr. Pepper.

  • blue carbuncle says:

    Arduino haters are just elitists, nothing less, nothing more.

    Posted at 11:35 am on May 8th, 2010 by CorporalAris

    Nah we just hate people that make electronics without any clue as to how electronics work. I have seen many projects where an Arduino was used instead of TTL or god forbid, a capacitor timer. BTW had thanks for the recent TTL projects.
    That, and HAD will often have a convenient link to the adafruit kit, lining the coffers of one of the lesser board -etcher (friends) of theirs. I think this is where the hate comes in. Also the fact that people keep asking for this content to be slabbed over to another category and are immediately slammed as hate speech/trolls by other users. I don’t know how they should change it overall, but I’m glad we can all agree Arty is a joke.

  • Moggie100 says:

    I see the Arduino is the Swiss Army Knife of the electronics prototyping world. Not -excellent- any anything in particular (damn those useless screwdrivers!) but excellent when you need (as carbuncle mentioned) TTL logic levels and its the only thing around, or a servo test rig, etc. etc.

    But hey, that’s not to say its not also ‘the easy way out’ for building stuff, just its not what you’ve got, but how you use it. :)

  • DeadlyFoez says:

    I’d really like to see you guys stop posting such stupid crap all the time that are far from being hacks. There is so much “filler” on this site that it’s crazy. About %50 of the “hacks” are not hacks but just extremely simple things to do.

    If I were to submit all the stupid shit that I do on a daily basis, you guys would post it all and I would be famous for doing stupid and simple things.

    How about the hack of using my empty beer bottle as an ash tray, or the hack that instead of using toilet paper I use baby wipes to wipe my ass. Those are “hacks” by your retarded standards.

    Seriously, you guys need to get a better clue and stop post arduino crap and stop posting simple stupid shit. You guys should be smarter than that.

  • gyro_john says:

    @Tachikoma:

    You said: “I laughed at the arena: two goes in… one comes out…”

    Thanks for pointing that one out. I didn’t get it on my own.

    :-D

  • Roly says:

    Looove the KXCD ‘toons. Spent hours browsing.

    @M4CGYV3R
    OMG! @ the huge ball of resistors. Teachers have actually made me calculate stuff like that for exams.

    My old guitar amp has just such a collection of 1/2 watt resistors in the screen supply ‘coz I didn’t have a suitable power resistor to hand, but a box full of 33k’s.

    @wot
    They’re not a replacement for knowing what you’re doing.

    +1

    My gripe is that too many HaD Arduous-based projects would be trivial WHATEVER processor they were running on. Flashing a LED? Toy cars as a switch? It’s like gushing parents who insist on showing you their baby snaps, and speaking as an old computer obstetrician …

    Right off the top of Google;
    “NEAT HACK definition. 1. A clever technique. 2. A brilliant practical joke,
    where neatness is correlated with cleverness, harmlessness, and surprise value.”

    “CLEVER”. Not “epic bloody FAIL”.

    This term originates from way back when just about everybody was programming Altair op-codes directly in octal, hex if they were lucky, and assemblers were a distant luxury. It was great praise to look at someones code and call it a “neat hack”, generally because of a clever approach that got around system limitations.

    You can even make a brick shithouse fly if you bolt on a big enough engine. The cunning application of a simple device like a 555 might be worth +10 Internets on the “neat” scale, while the trivial application of a complex device like an Arduious should be worth -50 (because it is so much more capable the “hack” and “neat hack” benchmarks should be set much higher).

    Even with hobby projects there is a place to ask if the same result could be got with cheaper, more common components, fewer interconnects, less power, etc. Could the task be simply done using hardware (like a thermostat), or does progammability add something critical or significant (like a PID thermostat)?

    I see lots of tips about how to connect hardware to PIC’s and SBC’s, but not a lot about coding tips for various machines and tasks. Flashing a LED might be a very neat hack if it was being done in only three lines of code, but I suspect it might pass unnoticed on HaD.

    tl;dr many hacks aren’t “neat” enough; coding “neatness” goes unnoticed.

  • Jared says:

    For the Arduino Haters, how about the next time an arduino hack or project comes up that you’re going to write a nasty arduino comment on, instead go make a project in some other platform. PIC. ARM. x86. Whatever. Then come back and tell us all how cool it was that you did a project that wasn’t in arduino. People are making things and writing them up. You’re not, so STFU.

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    @blue carbuncle

    “Nah we just hate people that make electronics without any clue as to how electronics work. I have seen many projects where an Arduino was used instead of TTL or god forbid, a capacitor timer.”

    You use TTL? You kiddin’ me? I had to dig a mine in my backyard so I could form my own transistors out of germanium and draw my own copper wires. So you use these fancy shmancy IC’s and you think you know something about electronics. And that makes you better than someone who uses an Arduino?

  • Addidis says:

    I dont use arduinos because of their cost. They are awesome little devices, with a HUGE community behind them. Personally my first learning device was a basic stamp. (if i could go back and do it again i would use arduino, but thats with what i learned from the basic stamp).

    All of my projects use Microchip PIC. My reasons are as follows:
    1. samples
    2. Loads of free tools (mplab ide, firmware packs etc)
    3. Various SUPER affordable programmers. (pickit2 being my mainstay)
    4. Incredible service from microchip the one time one of my dev kits failed (lost a button on a PIM and they replaced the entire PIM over a year past purchase date , with a PIM with better hardware on it. I have about 2k$ worth of devkits one button is the only issue ive had.

    That all being said , the arduino is an awesome little device.

    I would like to see more PIC related things. Personally have a midi controller I could write up and contribute. PIC cost about 10 $ to get up and running (minus parts to interface to the project) where as an arduino is 39 – 89 $ . Thats my motivation. Its not that arduino are not great devices , theyre just over priced in my humble opinion and stop many from hackin it up.

  • Squirrel says:

    I like the arduino as a first uC. It is easy to learn, however it is overpriced. I like it as a first prototype, with dedicated hardware coming after I’ve more or less debugged the general hardware concepts. That’s my 1.5¢ worth.

  • osgeld says:

    over priced? maybe you should look at some other uC dev boards?

  • sam says:

    I’m not sure how you guys are storing posts and such, but if you’re using SQL you could use a FOREIGN KEY based system for doing tags. Filtering that way would be a piece of cake.

  • Patterson says:

    i think there should be a ladyz with arduinoz section

  • blue carbuncle says:

    You use TTL? You kiddin’ me? I had to dig a mine in my backyard so I could form my own transistors out of germanium and draw my own copper wires. So you use these fancy shmancy IC’s and you think you know something about electronics. And that makes you better than someone who uses an Arduino?

    Posted at 9:17 am on May 9th, 2010 by 1000100 1000001 1010110 100010

    You wear your onion on the left or right side of your belt sir?

    My whole house is powered by a gigantic germanium diode array ;)

  • Torsten says:

    @caleb

    >@those with great ideas on new tagging structures,
    >We’re not re-writing the way wordpress works. Just >looking to improve the category listings.

    nobody asked for that. There are several thousands of plugins for wordpress… I searched there a multiple choices to enhance search, tagging, etc.

    Its not like I wan’t it so badly I can live with scrolling throw the arduino posts up to the “this-can-easly-kill-you” posts… I just thought it might make your lives easier and create less flames on the comments lists.

    No need to code or recode something.

  • risc says:

    Really nowadays there are a bunch of projects, that use a arduino when they could user something much more simple… cheap..

  • uzerzero says:

    Are there really this many people complaining about the lack of dynamic linking on Hackaday? Debating the usefulness of an Arduino? Claiming that it’s not a “hack”? Inadvertently admitting that they’ve never seen an episode of SNL, MadTV, Craig Ferguson, David Letterman, or Conan O’Brien?

    The comic (need I quote Webster’s here?) placed the Arduino on there with the tag “Arduino, just for blog cred” because Arduinos are the hot topic on many tech blogs nowadays. This kind of observational humor is the basis of almost all American comedy. It has nothing to do with Hackaday, Arduinos, or Jimmy Fallon’s tech-savvy self.

    And as an additional two cents, I love the 11 kg inductor tossed in there, the Batman symbol, Holy Water, and the numerous short circuits (“Omit this if you’re a WIMP”). I’ll definitely be making a circuit with the Batman symbol on the PCB and sending it into Hackaday.

  • Roly says:

    @1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101
    You use TTL? You kiddin’ me?

    Dave,
    as a designer I try to use the most suitable component for the task. That’s not “Arduino bashing”, it’s called “good design”. It’s also called making do with what you’ve got in the junkbox. And anyway, most Arduous/PIC I/O is Stone Age discrete *RTL* ‘gor blimy shock horror!

    If a 7400, 555, or even a 6L6, is the short answer to a problem then it is downright perverse to take a very long detour via a PIC unless you have very good overriding reasons. Yes, even germanium devices still have applications where they are the *ideal* component.

    Your position is more infatuated/theological than pragmatic/technological.

    A key problem here is the notion that new technology has to be “instead of” (and in manufacturing it often is), but in one-off home hacking it’s “in addition to”. Today the hacker has a huge range of components and techology cheaply available to select from, and there are more than enough project constrainst without giving fashion a veto.

    USE WHAT WORKS!

    @1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101
    And that makes you better than someone who uses an Arduino?

    Who ONLY uses Arduino (or where a 555 would be more *appropriate*). Suck it up. There IS a difference between knowledge and ignorance, between experience and lack of it; it’s simply that you get a better view from the crows nest than the deck. It’s called sagacity.

    When the newbie infatuates lift their gaze they will see there is a whole world of technology and good design out there. The XKCD ‘toon is making exactly this point. Any idiot can do donuts, but that’s not the car’s fault.

  • Tane says:

    My favourite part of that diagram was the 8mm resistor with the comment “Not a resistor, wire just does this.” :D

  • Michiel145 says:

    @ Tane, LOL, me 2 :)

    But I would love to see a PIC section. Not that PIC projects are superior to Arduino ones, but I just like PIC’s and getting a little tired of al the Arduino projects…. -_-

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    @blue carbuncle

    Thanks for catching the humor :)

    @Roly

    Sorry the humor was lost on you. I used TTL for years before dabbling with uC’s. Even now, my first instinct is to think through the logic of circuitry in terms of D-flops, NANDs, and the amazing 555. My Gray code scratch pad is usually laying on top of my Arduino (I think its still under there…hmmm).

    I completely agree…don’t use a sledgehammer to kill flies (Arduino haters would probably call it more of a ball-pein hammer, but whatever). Also, that huge stockpile of 74xx I acquired years ago does no good in the junk box.

    Learn to laugh, learn to live.

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    @blue carbuncle

    Left side, by the way lol. And you should post your diode array.

  • n8thegr8 says:

    I have a serial single-side arduino that I built from scratch (etched the board and all) for about $10, but now I mainly use it as an AVR breakout board. I program it via ICSP using AVR Studio to write software in assembly. I don’t despise the hardware, in fact, I love AVRs. I just despise the Arduino software/Wiring in general. I love the granularity that assembly affords, and when higher level stuff is needed, avr-gcc is win.

  • blue carbuncle says:

    1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101
    It is rare when we find folks with a sense of humor and brains :)

    I wear mine on the left to denote my participation in the “Run the Irish out on the Rails” festival of ’09 lol.

    And the germanium diode array is functional but can’t really power the whole house lol. I got the idea showing my nephew how to build the classic “toilet paper tube” radio and thinking if one germanium diode can suck the sweet energy of radiowaves (which there is an amazing overabundance of nowadays lol) then a bunch with a transformer and simple voltage regulator can turn microvoltages into free volts. Right now there are about 300 linked together outputting around 120-130 volts (the diodes seem to make each other “sing” and drift with the way I have it built and it actually fluctuates the volts quite a bit sometimes, but a cap bank and battery bay would tame that problem I think. I’ll take a pic of it today with the Voltmeter but the thing looks like someone spit a loogie on a spiderweb lol.

    Keep on keepin on :) And keep those darn kids off your front lawn and precious germanium :) They would just spend it on Bazooka Joe comics to read while walking downhill one way to school ;)

  • juancubillo says:

    loved the flux capacitor

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    @blue carbuncle

    “I wear mine on the left to denote my participation in the “Run the Irish out on the Rails” festival of ’09 lol”

    That could be the funniest thing I heard this month, Holmes! (makes me wonder which role you had, lol).

    Thanks, bud!

  • PocketBrain says:

    @DAVE, have you tried tuning your toilet-paper-tube energy-harvesting device to different frequencies? I wonder what it would take to harvest fluctuations in Earth’s magnetic field.

  • blue carbuncle says:

    The sad thing was the whole town was Irish until they got drunk and started hitting each other with axe handles. Once everyone was covered in blood, the onion belt location was the only way to tell the “good-uns” from the “tiefin ne’er do walls”. From thence we get the saying “A man without an onion is a dead man without an onion”.

    Glad ya dug it :)
    Happy Monday :)

  • Dynamo Dan says:

    Hah that’s way more than just a swipe at Arduino. He’s got a 555 timer in there too (but with a little different part number). I remember when the diy sites gave credit anywhere that a 555 timer chip was used, regardless of whether or not it was applicable, or overkill etc. just like the arduino is nowadays. I am just so happy the 555 timer days are mostly over–you can do just as much and more with a TL082 op amp chip. I have nothing against arduino, its just an Atmel AVR with the frequently used companion parts gathered together on a board.

  • 1000100 1000001 1010110 1000101 says:

    @PocketBrain

    That’s blue carbuncle’s device, not mine.

  • CumQuaT says:

    HA!!! Randall Munroe is a champ!!!

  • blue carbuncle says:

    PocketBrain I haven’t. Right now it is simple booming AMs that seem to spike it the most. I haven’t ruled that out, as I am a Tesla enthusiast and Theremintard, I can assure you that would be right around the corner. Essentially, you could have a much smaller array with a nicely stepped transformer to power a dumb oscillator/AM transmitter and make a hamster wheel of generation once the start up energy had been stored up enough. Again, you really need some sort of power conditioning like a cap/battery buffer with volt reg to have any kind of regularity. Messing around with old analog synths I can tell you that many things can cause those things to go out of tune. We’ll see how it goes though. It is more of a proof of concept at this point and just kind of for giggles. As a matter of fact I had some random mass grounding for some reason (probably my messy soldering work swelling) but I unplug it when I’m not at home because the wife would kill me. I recommend building one yourself and check the microvolts in your area and see if you have any better luck. I have about 30 diodes attached per tuning tube that was wound by my lazy arse in a most unbecoming fashion. Holler if you want any help though. As for “more power” bigger is better with this device it seems so a better antenna with better reception and better connections and more diodes would generate more power up to their rated safety points and so forth. I originally came up with this idea like I said with my nephew and it just sat for a while. I made a videogame for my hack n slash crazy wife that had a submarine of escaped nazi scientists that would use this array to draw power from active sonar pinging and turn it into electrostatic “caterpillar” drive type system so they could escape to the last part of the game. You essentially drove your sub into the sonar lol. Year and a half later I just was messing around again and built a quick one and finally hooked up the voltmeter instead of the piezo speaker. Whew. :)

  • PocketBrain says:

    @blue carbuncle
    Currently, I am trying to wind a flat coil that could be inserted into a photo mouse pad to act as a primary in an air-core transformer so I can recharge my Bluetooth mouse wirelessly (using an oscillator powered off USB). Maybe I’ll take that on a trip around the house once wound just to see what kind of juice I get.

    p.s. the photo will be of an arduino, of course. Man, I gotta get me one.

  • blue carbuncle says:

    Pocketbrain I’m not sure if you mean you are building a “chargepad” mousepad ala powermat or a wireless “charge anywhere from the air” kind of thing. That is the hope that eventually my lazy old butt can shrink the thing and make self-charging cellphones. It would be hard to make it efficient though or very small AND efficient as the transformers would be the bulky part. A flat coil transformer would be great in that arena :) I’m honestly not too adept with bluetooth or even the minute components of some of today’s cellphones (which the devices processors could handle something perhaps)but I’ll have to do some reading. Best of luck man :)

  • Jeremy says:

    I mulled over this comic post for about 30 minutes when it came out over a week ago and nearly cried laughing at some of the components. My favorite was the short over the 240V AC source that says “omit this if you’re a wimp.” XKCD Rocks.

    To topic, I think general tags like game hacks for ALL the game systems would be great, that way I can look at all the game system hacks in order of date instead of clicking on each one.

  • PocketBrain says:

    @blue carbuncle
    I made the spool I will wind it on; it’s flatter than a mouse pad, so shouldn’t be too difficult to incorporate it. I will replace the AA batteries in the mouse with AAA to make room for the transformer secondary and a bridge. If I wanted to get fancy, I could have the mouse communicate over the power link to let the mat know the batteries are full. Maybe with a PIC, but I have an idea how to do it analog. And yeah, it’s a chargepad, specifically for the mouse, but no reason it couldn’t be used with other gadgets.

  • juancubillo says:

    @PocketBrain

    I wanted to build one of those… until I got a gift certificate from a store that had them for sale lol

  • blue carbuncle says:

    Pocketbrain sounds good :) If you get a rechargable 9v and crack it open the AAAs inside are a little smaller than conventional AAAs. Might save ya some space, might not. Best of luck with the pic programming and getting everything crammed together ;) Sounds like you are on the right track though!

  • PocketBrain says:

    Those are quad-As (AAAA batteries) in the “9V” cell.

  • blue carbuncle says:

    Nevermind then

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