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		<title>Black Hat 2008: Dan Kaminsky releases DNS information</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/06/black-hat-2008-dan-kaminsky-releases-dns-information/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Dan Kaminsky]&#8216;s much anticipated talk on his DNS findings finally happened at Black Hat 2008 in Las Vegas today. [Dan] has already uploaded the complete slides from his talk as well as posted a short summary to his site. New information in the slides since our previous coverage includes &#8220;Forgot My Password&#8221; attacks and new [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=hackaday.com&amp;blog=4779443&amp;post=2404&amp;subd=hackadaycom&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img width="450" vspace="4" hspace="4" height="206" border="0" src="http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kaminskyshot.jpg?w=450&#038;h=206" alt="" /><br />[Dan Kaminsky]&#8216;s much anticipated talk on his DNS findings finally happened at <a href="http://mahalo.com/Black_Hat">Black Hat</a> 2008 in Las Vegas today. [Dan] has already uploaded the complete <a href="http://www.doxpara.com/DMK_BO2K8.ppt">slides</a> from his talk as well as posted a short <a href="http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1204">summary</a> to his site. New information in the slides <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/31/securing-dns-on-osx/">since</a> <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/24/dns-cache-poisoning-webcast/">our</a> <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/23/dns-exploit-in-the-wild/">previous</a> <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/08/major-dns-issue-causes-multivendor-patch-day/">coverage</a> includes &#8220;Forgot My Password&#8221; attacks and new attacks on internal network vulnerabilities as a side of effect of DNS cache poisoning. [Dan]&#8216;s talk today was over capacity; our shot of the conference room overflow is shown above.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: Full audio of the webcast is now available Today Black Hat held a preview webcast with [Dan Kaminsky] about the massive DNS bug he discovered. On July 8th, multiple vendors announced a patch for an undisclosed DNS vulnerability. [Dan Kaminisky] did not release the details of the vulnerability at that time, but encouraged security [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=hackaday.com&amp;blog=4779443&amp;post=2333&amp;subd=hackadaycom&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img width="450" vspace="4" hspace="4" height="155" border="0" alt="" src="http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/had_dns-1.jpg?w=450&#038;h=155" /><br /><strong>UPDATE: </strong><a href="http://blackhat.com/html/webinars/kaminsky-DNS.html">Full audio of the webcast is now available</a></p>
<p>Today <a href="http://www.blackhat.com/">Black Hat</a> held a preview webcast with [Dan Kaminsky] about the massive DNS bug he discovered. On July 8th, multiple vendors <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/08/major-dns-issue-causes-multivendor-patch-day/">announced a patch for an undisclosed DNS vulnerability</a>. [Dan Kaminisky] did not release the details of the vulnerability at that time, but encouraged security researchers to not release their work, if they did happen to discover the bug. On the 21st, the <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/details-of-dns.html">full description of the vulnerability was leaked</a>.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s webcast, [Dan] covered how he felt about the handling of the vulnerability and answered a few questions about it. He started out by talking about how he stumbled across the bug; he was working on how to make content distribution faster by using DNS to find the server closest to the client. The new attack works because DNS servers not using port randomization make it easy for the attacker to forge a response. You can read the <a href="http://beezari.livejournal.com/141796.html">specifics of the attack </a>here.</p>
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<p>[Dan] talked about the work that had been done since the July 8th announcement. A handful of researchers had contacted him with exact bug in hand, but as requested, did not release the information. When first announced, 86% of all servers voluntarily tested using the checker on <a href="http://www.doxpara.com/">doxpara.com</a> were vulnerable. 13 days later, the vulnerability was published and only 52% of the people using the checker are vulnerable. That&#8217;s not perfect, but 13 days gave plenty of companies enough time to both test and roll out their patches.</p>
<p>[Jerry Dixon], the former Director of the National Cyber Security Division, pointed out that even though the vulnerability was eventually leaked, the patches had already been out for 13 days; this isn&#8217;t a zero day vulnerability with no fix. So, we&#8217;re in a fairly good position. That being said, even since our <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/23/dns-exploit-in-the-wild/">Metasploit announcement yesterday</a>, they&#8217;ve pushed new module code that will <a href="http://www.caughq.org/exploits/CAU-EX-2008-0003.txt">take over an entire domain</a>. Security researcher [Rich Mogull] has feels that producing this exploit code quickly was &#8220;<a href="http://twitter.com/rmogull/statuses/867475896">bullshit</a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://twitter.com/rmogull/statuses/867476311">only helps the bad guys</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>[Dan] pointed out that some related work people have been doing to mitigate DNS cache poisoning using firewalls. [Michael Rash] wrote about <a href="http://cipherdyne.org/blog/2008/07/mitigating-dns-cache-poisoning-attacks-with-iptables.html">using iptables in Linux</a> to randomize outbound requests and [Jon Hart] covered using <a href="http://blog.spoofed.org/2008/07/mitigating-dns-cache-poisoning-with-pf.html">PF in OpenBSD</a>. The team is actively contacting vulnerable servers to get them to patch. They&#8217;ve also advised IDS vendors to look for multiple replies with the same ID as a telltale sign of this attack.</p>
<p>You can check your DNS servers using the tool on <a href="http://www.doxpara.com/">doxpara.com</a>. We&#8217;ve personally switched our machines to <a href="https://www.opendns.com/">OpenDNS</a>&#8216;s servers 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. Not only did it give us some piece of mind, but the performance is way better than our ISP&#8217;s overloaded DNS.</p>
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