That’s what she gets for underestimating the clever minds at DefCon…. btw, shouldn’t she get court cases out the wazoo for being bugged, last time I checked that was illegal.

Posted at 12:46 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by SpAz!1

HAHAHAHAHA that was the coolest thing ever! what was she expecting? a large group of people with above average IQ’s all convening for the same reason and she thought you guys were going to be stupid enough to not notice her?
I love how you guys really turned the tables on the new media! Good Job.

Posted at 1:09 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by Dismal

It’s good these kind of things get taken care of.. ..it looks like she was actually very upset in there.

More details on how she was found?

Posted at 1:13 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by Alcoholic007

“this is for all those helpless predators”

Posted at 1:53 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by monster

It’s been a long time since I checked on this, but I believe the law regarding bugging states that it’s okay for conversations to be recorded between two or more parties so long as ONE of the parties knows the recording is going on.

Posted at 2:11 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by Jim

Cool, it just I wish people could learn to hold a camera steady. Its not hard! :P

Posted at 2:48 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by t0ny

yeah as long as one of the parties being recorded is consenting adults then it’s perfectly legal. as for how she thought she could get away with that, come on it’s defcon these are not stupid people you’re around.

Posted at 3:32 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by Marc

Okey if this girl would be working for me and she would do this work and just fail at this simple undercover task i would fire her ass, i mean come on!!! just pretend your and enthousiastic journalist.

Yeah ok it is not nice to be a “predator”, but hiring hackers i mean what the fuck, you guys could make lots of money. Lets say if the feds hire you, work with them get some stuff you normally woudnt be able to get and leave.

You know some of their secrets and you know how they work, whats the bad part???

Posted at 3:39 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by hahaha

I love how major media outlets feel the only way to report “news” is by sensationalizing it. Rather than trying to take an objective approach to things and report what Defcon is all about, they instead chose to try and prey on the general populaces ignorance and fear. “Ooooooh scary hackers trying to blow up the world!!!!!!11!! more at 10″

Posted at 6:43 am on Aug 4th, 2007 by userjjb

The funniest part was all the heavy breathing picked up on the camera as they struggled to keep up with a walking woman.

Posted at 12:01 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by Sam

love that persons laugh at the end

Posted at 1:14 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by rob

Tonight on Dateline NBC “When Nerds Attack!”

Posted at 1:24 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by DL

The laws about consent to record conversations vary state to state country to country

Carrying a hidden recorder is not always allowable even by an undercover reporter, or an undercover cop.

That said, the press have quite a bit of leeway in the courts, if the story justifies the need for subtifuge.

Posted at 1:43 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by john

Couldn’t she have just pretended to be an enthusiastic geek that loves hidden cameras? She kinda gave herself away.

Posted at 2:15 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by Ryan

lol, awsome, serves her right for underestimating them

I gota get to defcon next year.

Posted at 2:26 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by Wolf

reminds me of:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY

Posted at 9:25 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by The Samurai

To #14,

and to think, I actually wondered why hackers have such a bad name…

Just sounds like a bunch of selfish assholes trying to justify their own lack of morals.

Oh scary, they can hack your mySpace page, wow, I bet you they’ve got the mad skillz to drive around beating up little girls too.

Posted at 10:37 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by Wolf

I don’t think there are many laws prohibiting recording in a public place–and even fewer statutes that prohibit video (even if it includes sound!) Most of the laws protect private, not public, conversation.

No one would buy video cameras if using them in public was illegal. And the press has the same rights to take photos/video as any shmoe.

However, any organization sponsoring a public event has the right to prohibit taping/video (which Defcon clearly does NOT do–given the dozens of cameras present.)

There are certain municipalities which try to prohibit video of police officers, etc., even in public (or on private land by the land owners.) But I’d expect those laws to be challenged.

What happened here really was that the Defcon group felt that the reporter was likely to do a typical network hack job on the report, and misrepresenting herself in order get fodder for the network. There was no illegality involved, merely distaste for ‘Dateline’ style ‘reporting methods.’

Yep, that’s one funny video…the fact that the audience members used the same hack ‘ambush journalism’ technique is very cool!

Posted at 10:42 pm on Aug 4th, 2007 by gmoon

humans and their monkey brains. congratulations to everyone concerned. so i guess the concept of rising above and taking the high road lost again to group monkey think.

so once again, congratulations monkey brains.

does it actually matter one bit if she was an undercover reporter? does it actually matter if whatever network show ran a so called “hatchet job” on hackers?

NO!!! it doesn’t matter. not even a little. get over your own ridiculous insecurities and this preoccupation with being validated.

I’m just wondering why no one actually degraded so far as to fling poo at the woman.

Posted at 9:11 am on Aug 5th, 2007 by blinder

In regards to wiretapping, it depends on the state. Some states are “anti-wiretap” which means all parties have to be notified that they are being recorded, other states are “one party” which means only one party of the conversation needs to know about the recording.

If she’s in an anti-wiretap state, someone should teach her a legal lesson, and seeing as how each person she recorded could be a separate felony charge against her, well let’s just say it could be interesting to see how she and NBC try to make good.

Posted at 9:28 am on Aug 5th, 2007 by ehrichweiss

@ehrichweiss:

By definition ‘wiretapping’ means tapping into private communication. Those laws don’t apply to public communication.

There may be other laws that prohibit photographing/video of a minor, etc. And there are uncounted instances of police using convenient laws like ‘inferring with an ongoing investigation’ to try and prevent someone from taking video in a public place (the police generally lose those cases, if they are challenged..)

Also, many private companies/public municipalities aggressively try to control all information, sometimes because it’s embarrassing, often because it’s proprietary or potentially lucrative.

For an event like Defcon which is ‘voluntary’, organizers have the right to set the rules of attendance, and eject whom ever they like. Her threatened ejection (she left voluntarily) had nothing to do with privacy laws…

Posted at 10:57 am on Aug 5th, 2007 by gmoon

to #16

those websites that Fox was talking about has nothing to do with hacking. They are just image boards that like to get a few laughs from other peoples expense. Anyone on those websites who call themselves hackers are fucking retards, just like fox made retards out of themselves.

By the way fucking lol at the video.

Posted at 6:21 pm on Aug 5th, 2007 by DL

to #22

When I say that they give hackers a bad name, I’m not implying that they’re actually hackers, but that (thanks to fox news) they’re who [ignorant] people will think of when they hear the term.

As far as being hackers, It would feel wrong to even call them crackers. Calling them terrorists would probably be more appropriate.

Posted at 10:16 pm on Aug 5th, 2007 by Wolf

To #16

Fox called them Hackers. They didn’t hack that one kids Myspace page. He fell for phishing pages *7* times, and then decided to tell Fox News about it.

Don’t ever believe the media.

Posted at 10:49 pm on Aug 5th, 2007 by Harrison

btw, im not basing any of that on the fox news report, but on anonomous’s rebuttal.

Posted at 12:32 am on Aug 6th, 2007 by Wolf

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homeless_nerds#Nerd_gangs

Posted at 8:25 am on Aug 6th, 2007 by phinnfort

Wow. Frickin’ nerds finally get their chance to taunt someone middle-school-style. Nice work, dorks.

Posted at 4:04 pm on Aug 6th, 2007 by Jocko

What do you think that hackers have such a bad name.

Posted at 5:34 am on Aug 10th, 2007 by Tabitha

I’ve got license plate numbers… :)

Posted at 12:40 pm on Aug 10th, 2007 by Cameron

So put yourself in this scenario:

You’re a low animal on the food chain where you work, and are sent out to do the grunt work for something someone high above you will gain recognition for; someone who does little more prep than sit in a makeup chair. If you don’t, you’ll more than likely find yourself without a job.

You’re an outsider in a large group of people you know next to nothing about, and are already anxious and intimidated due to your skewed understanding of their culture.

You’re then outed, and not only run out of the area, but also followed by the more impetuous and ambitious of them, taunted along the way.

Far as I see it, her boss was the stupid one, and those that followed her out of the building should be ashamed of themselves. It’s a wonder she didn’t have a heart attack, or get into a car accident.

Posted at 1:27 am on Aug 15th, 2007 by genericname

Yes..this is just the way that everybody want.

Posted at 5:33 am on Aug 16th, 2007 by Nabate

Yes this is possible.

Posted at 5:48 am on Aug 16th, 2007 by Tadesa

Dude, this video was so cute.

Posted at 4:45 am on Aug 21st, 2007 by gabe