Xbox 360 ATX power supply

posted Jan 5th 2006 2:00am by
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power supply

Reader Ran Mokady took a pretty big gamble with this project, but didn’t really have any other choice: his power supply was broken and he couldn’t get a replacement. He ended up replacing it with a standard ATX power supply. Follow along for all of the details.

For anyone who is having problems with their Xbox 360 power supply, or who (like me) have managed to end up with a burnt out PSU and can’t get a replacement, here’s how I managed to run the console off a standard ATX computer power supply.

The added advantage for me, living in a 220V country and having bought a 110V console from Japan is that I no longer need a huge stepdown transformer to run my console.

I have been running my console off a 250W computer PSU for a week now with no problems

Related: Xbox 360 Hacks, Xbox Hacks



143 Responses to Xbox 360 ATX power supply

  • duffman3030 says:

    intresting. but you might want to use a different rail for each power connection since power supplys are not designed for or capable of sending all of its power across one rail.

  • Justin wong says:

    That’s great… a even BIGGER xbox power supply!
    all in all, that’s a great hack

  • daniel says:

    Cool tip.. but do yourself a favor and invest in some heatshrink tubing…
    That electrical tape looks pretty gnarly ;)

  • tnkgrl says:

    What about the blue wire? Did you leave it disconnected?

  • Why wasn’t replacement an option?

  • Ran mokady says:

    Thanks for the tip duffman3030.

    tnkgrl – Yes, I left the blue wire disconnected. I suspect (but can’t prove) that it is used to wake up the original xbox psu in some way.

  • Ran mokady says:

    Replacement wasn’t an option because no one sells spares at the moment and because I imported the xbox from Japan so the cost of sending it back would have been prohibitive. The added advantage is that I now have a 220V psu where the original was 110V. Last but not least, this was much more fun…!

  • jungec says:

    maybe pin 14 should be hooked to the blue cable. If the blue cable goes to ground maybe it “wakes up” the power supply.

  • Pedersencato says:

    All I can say is you’re brave… I’d worry to much to try any type of hack on an expensive machine like that.

  • Would a original xbox psu be able to have enough to power a 360?

  • Pocketbrain says:

    Ever hear of heatshrink tubing? Wicked dirty job on that cable. It’s beautiful!

  • What was wrong with the power supply? Would it not have just been easier to fix the PSU in the xbox? I understand that fixing the PSU that came with the the would not be very hackish. But perhaps it would have saved you some time?

  • Mike says:

    I looked at a US powersupply i believe it showed 5 amps at 120 volts so fallowing watts law volts times amps
    120*5 should be around 500 watts or so you might want to get a bigger psu also you might be able to wake up the psu by connecting green psu to blue xbox hopefully that will work.

  • hawkeyeaz1 says:

    I do believe you are suppose to use a resistor between the green and ground on an ATX. But I agree, hooking the blue to the green may be beneficial (or maybe not).

  • Mrgreen says:

    LoL Japanese Sexbox,
    They hate the original,
    +10 points for Ghettoness
    +10 Points for drunk luck
    +10 points for Dirty cabling
    -10 points for faulty sexbox
    -10 points for getting a sexbox free-sex-ty
    -10 points for not using different rails.
    +1,000,000 points for buying imports (w00t)

    Nice hack, Keep it up, now i wanna see an original sexbox with water or phase change cooling, and i wanna see UNIX or Linux botting on its fast(ish) hardware (3 IBM power PC cores, low latency speedy ram, Sata DVD drive)

  • CaptSnuffy says:

    @11

    Usually a dead psu indicates components critically failing, occasionally accompanied by smoke and frequently followed by much cursing.

  • tiuk says:

    mrgreen – Someone is already selling a 360 watercooling kit.

    Congrats on getting it to work, ran, it takes balls to just hope that the red and yellow wires are 5v and 12v respectively. Glad it worked out.

  • Mr. Spork says:

    I agree with most of what’s been said about getting a beefier PSU and connecting to multiple rails. What I’d probably do is go to your nearest electronic supply and invest in some male molex drive connectors, enough so you would have one for each of a given color. Crimp those on your Xbox psu cable and split the load among seperate connectors on your ATX PSU. I’d also investigate that blue wire as well. It’s unlikely that it’s exactly the kind of signal the green wire of your AXT PSU needs to power-on, but you may be able to come up with a circuit which would give you what you need. All likelihood has it that it’s momentarily shorted to ground when you press the power button on the Xbox, so you’ll need to make a circuit which will, when that switch is closed, ground the green wire and keep it that way. It may also serve to put the PSU to sleep as well so take that into consideration.

  • Steve says:

    below are some good resources for atx power supply modification, with varying sophistication and technical depth:

    http://web2.murraystate.edu/andy.batts/ps/powersupply.htm
    http://wiki.ehow.com/Convert-a-Computer-ATX-Power-Supply-to-a-Lab-Power-Supply
    http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/D5FC00DAB9B110289B50001143E7E506/?ALLSTEPS

    naturally, i checked past hacks only <caps>AFTER</caps> submitting the above to the hackaday tipline (thinking i had something that had not been featured). sorry eliot

  • jap says:

    Take a look in almost all 350W psu’s there is only a single 12V rail, all of the wires connect to the same area on the board.

    Also the xbox is only specced at ~200W, DC 12V 16.5A, 5V 1A.

    The 12V rail takes a fair amount of current however, hopefully the atx psu used has a decent 12v rail. So either keep the wires as short as possible, or maybe even double up the wiring (atx cable is rated for about 16A when used in those lengths).

  • Nevyn says:

    To fix the PSU you would’ve needed to know something about the PSU – this way you only need to know anything except the voltage and the fact that it’s a DC current.

  • BE CAREFUL!!
    Check the manufacturer of your power supply!
    Dell Power supplies have a different wiring scheme on their power supplies. Failure to recognize the differences could potentially result in serious hardware damage.
    Standard ATX: http://pinouts.ru/data/atxpower_pinout.shtml
    Dell ATX: http://pinouts.ru/data/dell_atxpower_pinout.shtml

  • emmanuel Caballero says:

    tnx diraddo for your post. When my old dell’s power supply broke I could not find a replacement. Good thing, my friend knows someone who could. Now, I just need a generic atx, wire cutting and stripping tool, and heatshrink tubing.

  • Alan says:

    Great job. I am like everyone else I would have been chicken to “try” to fix it and risk blowing it up! Jap is right, most power supplies common up all of the taps.

  • brian says:

    The AC power in Japan is actually 100V. Maybe supplying 110V to the power supply led to it’s failure? Although many switching power supplies I’ve come across have a wide input voltage range like 100-240V 50/60Hz. Helps the manufacturers keep costs down by only needing one model.

  • Wobble says:

    nice mod, looks like somthing i would try :) someone mentioned the need of a resistor, i highly doubt it, i ran a machine with 2 psu’s for over 3 months in a simialr config. while i was getting a cpu replaced i had to run my 6800 gt in a box that had a 250watt psu, (it was a gutted dell board and propritary psu and i couldnt easily upgrade it) so i wired a PSU to always on and hooked it up to my vid card and the other psu up to the mainboard, worked with out a hitch for atleast a month with no issues. id say your all set.
    -Wobble

    ps. electrial tape is great screw heat shrink :)

  • Liam says:

    OLD NEWS

    Many of us have been running consoles off ATX PSU’s for a long time. Hell, I ran my Gamecube off an old 450w Antec Truepower for over a year because I left the PSU at my parents place, 200 miles away. I’d hardly consider this a ‘hack’. Scraping the barrel, I’d say….

  • notch says:

    the post about the dell power supply is wrong, at least for all new dells. they comply with the atx standard now. and all the taps come off the same spot in a psu if you have ever opened one up, the limitations would be the current capacity of the wire as long as it is at least 18 gauge he should be fine. I would just hold the “new” wire in your hand and make sure it isnt getting too warm, if not you will be fine

  • zipperseven says:

    mr green-

    hardocp did a homebrew water cooling solution for the 360, looks pretty cool for an aftermarket mod.

    http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTM5

  • chase snyder says:

    hey, whoever posted that second post justin wang, wennier, whatever the hell your name is, shut the hell up. he didnt do it to be cool, he did it because he had no other power supply to work with. dumbass

  • andrew sim says:

    great work! all we need now is someone to hack the 360′s PSU to use with a computer…

  • appleguru says:

    Nice hack; at least someone had the balls to try it :)

    As for not being able to buy a replacment psu anywhere.. I wouldn’t say that either… Ebay is a good place.. I’m currently selling one there ;)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8248866566

  • Tifose says:

    Hey let me first thank u for this, i have my 360 power supply not working too when i start up my 360 the menu would come up but when ever i try putting in the DVD or Game the system would turn off try it with my friends power supply and it worked. i do have a ATX power supply and i do think it’s 250 too . ganna try this out!!

  • mtxf says:

    i seem to remember that the 360 psu brick had a fan/fans, maybe the blue wire is some kind of control for that…

  • Mrgreen says:

    to zipperseven and tiuk, yes i have seen this, but i dont accept it because it looks so proffesional- i want ghetto!

  • Tifose says:

    “i seem to remember that the 360 psu brick had a fan/fans” there is no fans in the power supply i did open my own

  • daguuy says:

    very nice! computer PSUs are a good idea since they don’t overheat easily. since XBOX 360 only uses 12v and 5v and 136 watts, it would be possible to use one of the older PSUs from a pentium or something because they use a real power switch instead of a clicky switch so you don’t have to worry about the green wire and stuff. they also ouput 12v and 5v at 150 watts which, if i’m rigt about XBOX 360 taking 136 watts, should be enough

  • j0hnnywest says:

    OmG I HaD A pOwEr SuPpLy OnCe!!
    NoT On A xBoX ThO

  • pimpmaul69 says:

    so what about the blue wire…is it a trigger switch to power the psu…i dunno this may be answered in the comments

  • pimpmaul69 says:

    ok so on the blue wire check for dc voltage output while powered off then try it powered on…that will tell you if it is power for psu’s fans if there are or supposed to be there….and to check if it powers on the psu then run a continuity test…put one bar to the cables ground and one to the blue wire and with the psu turned off press the power button…if you get a quick connection then this means you need to connect the blue wire to pin number 14

  • pimpmaul69 says:

    oh and one more note…if you do it the way this guy did install a pushbutton on the psu and attach pin 13 and 14 to it…YOU DO NOT WANT A CONSTANT POWER TO GROUND!!!!!!!…you will fry the psu eventually

  • Dan says:

    I’m sorry pimpmail, but you’re wrong.
    Shorting the green pin (14) to any ground (13 is closest) will NOT fry the PSU. The ATX specification calls for this pin to be shorted constantly anyways, it’s how the computer you type on stays on. The blue wire is usually for negative 12 volts (-12), it should be connected but I’d check an actual power supply from a 360 first. This wire could also be a vsense wire to check the status of the voltages coming from the supply itself, but I’m willing to be on -12 volts.

  • pimpmaul69 says:

    even if that is so about the jumping of the 2 wires…even though a mobo does have resistance between the two and it is safer that way it is irrelavent to how i told him how to test the blue wire…a continuity test will answer if it is for turning on the psu just by pressing the power button on the xbox

  • stace says:

    did this hack all worked and powered up but the main system lights all flashed red ???? so still i cant play my xbox360 i used a atx psu 230 volts was this correct??? also my dvd tray wouldnt open is this a power issue ???pls reply to my e mail thxs stacehughes16@hotmail.com

  • Aaron says:

    Coudln’t you go to radioshack and buy an simple on/off switch, attach the blue wire to the positive, black wire to the negative which would allow you create a circuit in which you could turn the PSU on/off at will. Isn’t this what few of you are suggesting. Cool workaround tho.

  • stace says:

    hi there so i did the atx power pack thing great stuff but my xbox360 all the lights when i power it up flash red around the on button??? and it wont open my dvd tray?? is there not enough power going ttrough it ??? im using a 230 volt atx psu ??? pls help i follewed the wireing in the diagram so its all good apart from that ?

  • stace says:

    hi there so i did the atx power pack thing great stuff but my xbox360 all the lights when i power it up flash red around the on button??? and it wont open my dvd tray?? is there not enough power going ttrough it ??? im using a 230 volt atx psu ??? pls help i follewed the wireing in the diagram so its all good apart from that ?

  • Ran Mokady says:

    stace – I had the red light thing initially when I didn’t have all the wires connected or when I wasn’t providing enough juice – I tried this on my lab PSU first which didn’t have enough power to run the box and gave the red light thing. Make sure it’s all connected. Also I’m using a 250W PSU – 230 sounds marginal as as far as I know the number quoted is always peak.

  • generalxsl says:

    someone above claimed to have the first water colled 360. when in fact the first water cooled system was sold on ebay. im not trying to be rude in this matter. the system they put out dose look much nicer, they did a great job. but to say your the first when your not, just dosnt seem right to me.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8243459780

  • stace says:

    so do i need a 250v atx psu for it to power fully ??? pls help

  • C187 says:

    Once you fix any bugs you might want to post this info on xbox-scene, manly because I’ve got offers to sell my psu for up to $400. And well a lot of people over there could really use this info.

  • natexris says:

    Does anyone have the Pin-out for the power connector on the back of the Xbox 360 itself? I don’t have the original psu to splice the cable with.

  • ltddevil says:

    Did ur X360 PSU make weird noises? If so, i have a problem…
    Because mine makes weird noises all the time…

  • stace says:

    did anyone get this atx psu to work there xbox360 cos i follewed all the wireing and mine just lights up all red around teh ring so it doesnt even work can anyone verfiy apart from the poster that it works cos mine dont wont even open the dvd try….

  • Disbeliever says:

    The red lights thing can be caused by not having your av lead in correctly.
    But I doubt the atx supply works as natexris has requested the pinouts and yet they don’t appear. How hard is it to meter a chopped cable!

  • eyefullofstars says:

    I did exactly what you did and follow your instructions, and my XBOX 360 is now working perfectly. I got a reasonable price ATX power supply with a 14mm fan and on/off switch at the box, some shrink tube and spent 35 minutes desoldering and solder the new thing on. It is so much better than the old PSU. I put some silicon adhesive stopper at the bottom of the PSU and wa la! Thanks heaps.

  • stace says:

    damm what am i doing wrong then ??? im using a 400 watt atx power supply unit all wired good and it just lights up ??? do i need to use a certain output lead from my atx unit or can i use anyone of the hard disk power points or the dvd 4 pin connecters ?? i also have my video lead in and it still doesnt do anything help pls ???

  • Warrior says:

    To the guy who done this power supply hack…Could you please give me the pin layout of the xbox360 power connections as I need to make my own power supply and need to change the connector too….

  • Warrior says:

    To the guy who done this power supply hack…Could you please give me the pin layout of the xbox360 power connections as I need to make my own power supply and need to change the connector too….

  • David says:

    I’ve water cooled an xbox 360 and it’s lovely and silent. I can post pics if you like

  • lee says:

    i got jap xbox 360 and just plugged it into the uk mains and it works fine, so no need for all that messing if you asked me,

  • Warrior says:

    I have found out the pinouts myself so if anyone else wants to know have a look here….

    http://krisbox.free.fr/atxto360.GIF

  • disbeliever says:

    Nice one warrior.

    Stace check the amps on your 12V line as atx supplies tend to range from 8a to 17a.
    I know 10a aint enough should really be aiming for 17a. Best Ive scrounged is 15a upto yet.
    Might try blowing up my 360 again the weekend!

  • stace says:

    ok thxs prolly what ive done is used the wrong connection point like ive prolly used a 8amp instead of a 17 amp power connection point so ill wire my 300 watt atx power unit again tonight and just try all the connections on it ….is that agood idea cos i know i have done all the wires correct it just wont do anything i get power and dvd try opens but wont close and the rings of light all flash red i had my av cable in and still flashes all red ????? its a brand new xbox from canada and im in the uk i only played on it 2 times how bad is that haha anyone offer any help ???

  • stace says:

    ran hi can you please send me a detailed photo section picture by picture on how and what correct wires to make this work with atx power supply pls send to my e mail thxs buddy

  • stace says:

    WELL I FINALLY GAVE IN AND BOUGHT A NEW XBOX360 CORE SYSTEM FROM EBAY SO IM GONNA TAKE OUT THE POWER PACK AND KEEP FOR MYSELF AND JUST STORE OR SELL THE CONSOLE AND OTHER ITEMS WITH IT ANYONE INTRESTED IN THE CONSOLE DROP ME A LINE ITS BRAND NEW REGION 1 USA/CANADA WITH RECIPT FROM BESTBUY STACEHUGHES16@HOTMAIL.COM ILL BE SELLING IT FOR 150 DOLLERS OR 150 POUND UK

  • stace says:

    WHOOPS I MEANT 150 UK POUNDS

  • stace says:

    i know how to copy xbox360 games wahoooo totally by eroor…take the dvd drive and plugs from the main board in the xbox360 and insert the xbox360 dvd tray into a pc with the microsoft leads patch them up and volia it will read the xbox games to you hard drive using a well known program then burn onto dvd-9 dual layer disks complete cloned copy i cant tell program here but pls e mail me ill will tell u

  • xp says:

    Hi, could someone give me the power supply specs of the japanese version of xbox360? my country uses 220v and i would like to know wat stepdown transformer should i get. thanks

  • So anyone have a detailed diagram on how to do this yet because it seems there was some discretion over the first. Thanks.

  • Gaurav says:

    Hi i have the same issue flashing red light and im using a 600 watt power supply, any help?

  • Nissan patael says:

    Ran, if you’re from Israel please contact me: nissanp@zahav.net.il
    Thanx in advance, Nissan

  • bluespice says:

    this is great! i fried my psu couple weeks ago because my wifey inputted to a 220v .. was about to buy the psu from ebay but tried ran’s blog. tx a many!

  • jasinister says:

    I have done this twice now. Once for mine and once for a friend. Both were Japanese models. This Rocks. You should really be using 250w as minimum.
    As for the blue cable. It is not for sleep mode. As mine goes into sleep mode and I can turn it back on with the remote control. Who knows what the blue wire is for send an email to Billy G :).

  • tecelecs says:

    i have tried 4 different ATX power supplys and all make my 360 flash red i now put a 550 watt new fancy power pack on all wired and joined blue to 12v- and all is working spot on ???
    can someone with more knowledge confirm the blue wire please..

  • bluespice says:

    ok as my post # 75.. too early to say… my powersupply of 350watt atx just died on me…

  • sgteversmann says:

    O dude this is a great hack man and it works i tried it just cause i got a little too bored anyways man thanks for the help

  • RAMESH says:

    i recently purchased a xbox 360 from US and went back to India to use it, I screwed up by using a cheap 230 to 110 v converter, it burnt up, Lucky for me – I had not connected the xbox while attempting this,

    I decided to open this unit and found a come some components burnt within.- may be capicitors-

    Here I am stuck, and checked with this blog, I am going to try this out.. atleast there is an alternative-

    Thx

  • RAMESH says:

    Hi All,

    I finally fixed my microsoft psu, I had to replace a few compnoents which were burnt up, and it works cool, will give the exact details of components replaced.

  • ariyatape says:

    My PSU is fails because something mistake from 220V convert to 110V. Now i use this solution ATX PSU but the xbox show three flashlight.
    I not sure about the problem.

    Pls tell me for it. (I use ATX2 PSU)

  • jimmy says:

    Good on ya keep up the mods…

    This kinda stuff is great for the ppl who get imported consoles that have different PSU’s (lol like me being too pov to buy a 360 here so i got a jap one)

    Damn imports are cheap lol

  • Kiran says:

    Hi Everyone.
    I bought a Jap XBOX 360 and i think i blew the psu. I live in India and had to use a voltage converter, which i think blew my psu.
    Has anyone tried opening the psu and tried to fix it? If so can you please let me know.
    Would really appreciate any reply.

  • Kiran says:

    Hi Everyone.
    I bought a Jap XBOX 360 and i think i blew the psu. I live in India and had to use a voltage converter, which i think blew my psu.
    Has anyone tried opening the psu and tried to fix it? If so can you please let me know.
    Would really appreciate any reply.

  • Kiran says:

    Hi Everyone.
    I bought a Jap XBOX 360 and i think i blew the psu. I live in India and had to use a voltage converter, which i think blew my psu.
    Has anyone tried opening the psu and tried to fix it? If so can you please let me know.
    Would really appreciate any reply.

  • Kiran says:

    Hi Everyone.
    I bought a Jap XBOX 360 and i think i blew the psu. I live in India and had to use a voltage converter, which i think blew my psu.
    Has anyone tried opening the psu and tried to fix it? If so can you please let me know.
    Would really appreciate any reply.

  • Range06 says:

    Unfortunatly my bro connected the 110v psu directly without convertor to our commecial 220v power, and since then the xbox never powered on of course.

    What to do now? there are no psu avilable here?

  • Zeev Glozman says:

    I actually did the 220 gig connection myself, I kind of feel like an ideot, question is did the screw up the xbox what does the exp say ?

  • Patrick says:

    Stationed in Europe but I have a 110 Xbox. A friend plugged it in to 220 and fried it. Would it be safe to say all I need is a new power supply in the Xbox and all should be fine? The power surge wouldn’t have touched the board and the mod chip, would it? Just checking before I buy a new power supply. If I need more, I want to buy all at one time. Thanks… Patrick.Quenga@us.army.mil please send comments there…easier to get them…cya!

  • HOW I PLACE A SOURCE ATX IN MY XBOX 360? THE TUTORIAL ONE OF THE SITE IS MISSED? IT APPEARS 3 RED LIGHTS WITH INSTALLED SOURCE ATX

  • kunaal j says:

    i used a power converter for my 360 that went from 110 to 220 . the converter blew up after 1/2 hour but nothing happened to my brick . are ther any good converters that i can use so it feels like im playing on a 110 outlet so it dosnt switch off? swantonbomber@gmail.com

  • frak says:

    I used the transformer that i used for the original xbox and it blew up after 20 minutes,the best one that i could find{as i live in pakistan}was the X-b360 by PantherLord,it gives you 2 hours of play and then it heats up,just let it cool down for 30 minutes or so and play again.

    any suggestions for transformers that can take the load of the 360 and play atleast for 5-7 horus without heating up

  • demon says:

    i did all this staff, but i have my xbox360 flashing red light.
    i don’t know what’s wrong on it. Although all the connection is right.
    notice that i used 400w

  • James says:

    I have bought a Japanese xbox 360 and live in Australia(240V). I was wondering are all xbox 360s internally the same with just the power supply box being different or are the 110V models different to the 240V models.

  • MATT says:

    Ok, my power supply went out YESTERDAY, so I rolled the dice and tried to do this and, IT WORKS!!! I mean I have the thing up and running and looks pretty much exactly like how you have it in the picture there. Here’s my question though:

    Is this safe? I mean do I really not have anything to worry about in terms of the power supply overheating, 360 being ruined in some way, or of course the worst case scenario, starting an electrical fire because of the psu being modified?

    I tend to think that since it’s done, and it works, it should be ok. I’m really not worried about it, one reason why I’m really not worried is because I’m not a hardcore 5 hour straight type player. I play for an hour or 2 at most consecutively so I really don’t think overheating should be an issue.

    I just wanted to write though and see what everyone thinks about the “safety” factor in doing this. I feel really good about the fact that it’s actually up and running, I guess I just need a little reassurance in the safety part of it. Thanks for any input!

  • kratosh says:

    great hack…but what about heating issues ??

  • nikhil says:

    I tried the hack but i cant seem to get it to work…

    now the xbox is lighting up but im gettin 3 red lights all the time i have tried all the various things mentioned in the posts

    any help ?

  • nikhil says:

    do u connect to one black from the molex or both ?

  • Chris says:

    great mod, risky,but if it works i dont question it. anyone know how to take the psu apart for the 360 cause then you could try to replace the psu with the atx inside the 360 psu case

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