Speak your mind and help RadioShack suck less

posted May 27th 2011 3:00pm by
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We can all agree that RadioShack isn’t exactly the DIY mecca it once was.

What used to be a haven for amateur radio operators, tinkerers, and builders alike has devolved into a stripmall mainstay full of cell phones and overpriced junk. RadioShack knows that they have fallen out of your good graces, and since you are the demographic that put them on the map, they are appealing to the DIY community for input.

They want to know what is important to you – what you would like to see at your local RadioShack, and what would bring you back through their doors. Obviously price is a huge concern, especially with online outlets like Digikey and Mouser just a few clicks away. At the end of the day however, if you require a component RIGHT NOW, it would be nice to have the ability to grab some parts locally.

We’re well aware of the fact that this is all part of a marketing scheme, but if it helps stock your local store with a few odds and ends that are actually helpful, it won’t hurt to let your voice be heard.

Stick around to watch the video appeal from RadioShack’s brand manager, [Amy Shineman].

[Thanks komradebob]

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332 Responses to Speak your mind and help RadioShack suck less

  • aztraph says:

    I have misgivings about this, I see it as a marketing ploy too, I used to work there (my wife too, that’s were we met). I will be giving all the advise i can, but do not have high expectations.

  • macegr says:

    They can’t stock everything. However, they used to be good at stocking stuff that everyone needs from time to time. If they just had a big selection of switches, relays, connectors, resistors, capacitors, wire, enclosures, and prototyping tools I think they’d be back. Literature and kits would help too.

  • MRC says:

    the problem is that the Niche market Radio Shack once occupied is no longer present. they had three things going for them at the time:

    1: the popularity of HAM and CB radio as a hobby

    2: no internet to cut into their business share for parts, devices, and supplies

    3: knowledgeable staff (for the most part) that could help customers, and sell them stuff they needed. not push crap they didn’t.

    #1 is no longer large enough to support a nationwide chain business.

    2&3 can be found on the net, and shipping is cheap enough to be competitive.

    unless modern consumer devices take a turn for the self-repairable, I wish Radio Shack luck in its continued survival.

  • aztraph says:

    It would be nice to be able to get parts locally, i think i’ll stop by there and ask them about this, see what their take is. the manager and i went to high school together, see if i can get any details on what’s in place for this.

  • frank says:

    The markup on their components is crazy! Same thing with Fry’s. I guess that is the cost to pay for convenience.

  • Sobachatina says:

    I’m surprised and pleased that they are even pretending to care about DIYers. I want to encourage this behavior.

    I think they could (re)make their niche in beginners’ electronics education. Some of the best starter’s books I have were written by Forest Mims III and published by Radio Shack in the early 80′s. Publish cool project plans and stock the parts to make them and they’ll make friends with a new crop of young hobbyists.

    At that point they’re adding value that is hard to find on the internet. Sure you can get parts cheaper on digikey but it will cost you $8 shipping and which one of their 10,000 switches do you actually want?

  • Renet123 says:

    I think that if they really want to make it, they are going to have to give a little. I think that it would be cool if they had more of the entry level electronic diy stuff, maybe some arduino’s. I would also suggest they get into doing free ‘classes’ or ‘workshops’ doing things like – ‘put together an static LED sign or ‘how to solder’.. something cheap that would engage people to come by, and buy the things they have learned how to do. One more thing – stop trying to sell me a router for $120 that i can buy at Best Buy down the street for $65.

  • j_jwalrus says:

    my $.02

    Sell more “development kits” and boards. Stock PIC, AVR, Propeller, Arduino, etc.

    Establish relationships with Adafruit, Sparkfun, Maker Shed, Seeed Studios, Parallax etc. Support these kits with DIY books that can get people started on these projects! (Example would be the 555 chip and the Forrest Mims Books that radioshack used to be famous for. They still sell Mim’s books, but they are harder and harder to find.)
    You could trial a few select products from the above vendors in your “DIY” section of the store.

    Don’t charge too much of a mark-up, or no one will buy them! See it as an opportunity to restore the radioshack name… Right now I think of radioshack as “BatteryShack” or “PhoneShack”.

  • strider_mt2k says:

    I call bullshit.

    I think it’s just a way to get folks in there to sell them a cell phone.

    Radio Shack HATES the parts section, folks HATES IT.
    I worked for that company for five years up until a year ago and I’m confident that there is no love for the parts folks because parts isn’t a viable revenue stream anymore.

    While they are shaking your right hand you’d best keep any eye on their left hand.

    I don’t trust ‘em, and I don’t love ‘em.

  • j_jwalrus says:

    another $.02 – Sparkfun had a awesome PCB vending machine at the San Francisco Bay Area Maker Faire this past weekend. It was stocked with common Sparkfun products like Arduino, Xbee, Lithium ion batteries, small kits and breakout boards. Granted it was a cash-only machine, it would get people into the radioshack store. Support the vending machine with knowledgeable staff and resources (books or even an online presence) and it would be gold.

  • CryonicTech says:

    Being that I work for Radio Shack….and a tech head…I don’t like it. I find myself pointing out other places for pieces and parts mostly because the stuff we generally sell suck, and its way overpriced. Generally it is a 50%-75% markup. We are focused on getting sales regarding cell phones and accessories i.e. Someone comes in, our DM wants us to say “Welcome to radioshack, what did you bring to trade in?” and they look at us like we are retarded when we say it but if we don’t we get in trouble. Then we are required to get *at least* 2 accessories with phones and a warranty with the phones *and* accessories. Again…when we don’t we get yelled at because our numbers are low and our hours get cut because our sales aren’t high enough to justify the hours. It’s ridiculous. I’ll probably get fired for this comment since they track everything we employees do online (notified of this during last security and loss prevention training) as not to “skew” the Radio Shack name. I know most people don’t care about things like this but it really turns me off from buying things from a company like this, and I work there and get an at cost discount. *end rant*

  • Jones says:

    All of these ideas have to do with building a community. Not just attracting electronic component consumers, but creating them as well:

    1) workshops.

    Have free/cheap classes teaching my kids to solder and we’re probably going to by a few components for them on the way out.

    2) Hardware mods for the non-technical public.

    Offer small fees to upgrade cheap capacitors in Samsung LCD TVs, or to add usb ports to routers.

    3) Maker contests

    Be the kind of place where people go to show off what they’re building, or to get ideas.

    4) Facilitate electronic clubs

    Volunteer a back room and a few breadboards for people to meet one evening a month to work on stuff.

    Help the community learn to appreciate the art of electronics. Do that and you’ll get people to eventually buy electronic parts.

  • cali_insomniac says:

    The last time I ever set foot in a radio shack I was looking for a quick ‘cheap’ hdmi cable (expecting to spend around $15-$20). They tried to upsell me on their brand name special hdmi cables for $70 and when I told them I didn’t want to spend $70 on an hdmi cable they offered me to ‘finance it for $7 a month’. I felt so insulted I didn’t even respond I just walked out. I wouldn’t give them another cent of my money no matter what they do.

  • dontpanic says:

    As a former RadioShack employee who was “asked to quit” because of my refusal to sell cell phones, I say to hell with you. I would never step foot in a Shack again, and I advise my friends to steer clear of your stores on a regular basis.

    Obviously RadioShack exists to shove overpriced and under-performing technology on to ignorants consumers. They hire ex-Sprint and ex-Verison kiosk drones over tech-savvy people for a reason: they want everyone that walks in the door to buy a cell phone contract.

    Use an online retailer or support your local small business. Don’t shop at The Shack.

  • Aaron says:

    I wonder if they even employ anyone who can go through the mass of responses and pick out the ones that make sense to do.

  • Dino says:

    I call BS as well. “What are the three things…” THREE!?? Are you kidding me?? Three things??? HAHAHAHA!!

    Just look at the video! It’s a metaphor of their current attitude.. first you see her looking directly at you, then, you get a close up of her from the side, as if she’s talking to someone else. Feel alienated? HELL YES!

    This is a very poor attempt at addressing the total lack of real electronic parts and supplies for the DIY community. It used to be the whole store, now it’s down to a few cabinets with drawers that are usually poorly stocked.

    I wonder just how many real projects she has built??

    This will be interesting to follow up on…

  • elephant says:

    Sell development kits, microcontrollers and ICs from the 74HC logic family.

    Also, $2 for an op-amp is ridiculous. Stop marking your stuff up so much. RadioShack has become a highway robbery for parts compared to other suppliers.

    Partner up with a semiconductor company (like TI or Parallax) to provide cheap access to dev kits and ICs.

  • Mark says:

    I’m sure the product they bring in will be some kind of Icrap.

  • boron says:

    Knowledgeable staff would be a great addition. I called all 5 of our local radio shack stores last long weekend. I was looking for a crystal, and a npn transistor (very common).
    Not one person who answered the phone knew what a crystal was, one guy actually suggested I that I call the glass sculpture gift store in the same mall.
    Only one guy knew what a transistor was, but didn’t bother to check if they were in stock. I found out the hard way after a drive across town. Then he tried to sell me batteries.
    I stopped into another store on the way back, who also tried to sell me batteries and found the transistor myself despite the employee insisting they had nothing of the sort. Then he tried to sell me batteries.

    As far as picking a major product that DIYers would love to pick up locally, I think Arduino boards and proto kits would be a hands down favourite.

  • grndplane says:

    I think kits and literature is a good place to start. Also a knowledgeable sales person would help.

  • sp00nix says:

    Ugh… I miss Radio Shack. I used to be able to walk down around the corner, grab some parts and walk out. Now and then i pop in to grab a switch or some small part and i spend half of my time there shooting down battery and cell phone up sales. It makes it easy to not wanna go back.

  • Taylor Alexander says:

    @j_jwalrus
    Exactly what I was going to say!

    and @Mark
    It’s iCrap! The punctuation matters. ;)

  • poodlepatrol says:

    I’ll bite:
    Arduinos and kits that include loads of projects.
    Repair kits for common mishaps (eg. mangled cat 5 plugs; broken jack plugs) with associated web links to “how-to” from a video.
    Project demos, like home improvement store do for specific tasks.

  • NXTreme says:

    I think it’s a marketing scheme as well, but they’re asking, so I may as well say something.

    1. More knowledgeable salespeople. I’ve gone in there, asking for this or that, and in the 5+ RadioShacks I’ve been to, only one guy actually knew where what I wanted (LEDs, caps, ect.) was. And he wasn’t even wearing RadioShack branded clothing. Of course, he was the only person I’ve ever seen in RadioShack that actually was using a soldering iron when I walked in!

    2. More starter kits. Starter kits can really get people interested in things fast, if done right. A Arduino starter kit would really sell well, if done right, because of the wealth of information online. They could buy the Arduinos from a distributer, and sell them at a decent price (say $70 US) along with the basics needed to get started like two motors, a driver shield, a servo, distance sensor and a couple odds and ends. Just enough to build something like the “Start Here Robot” on LMR.

    3. Just a better assortment of pieces, period. Oh, and decent prices on them too. I’m not gonna pay three dollars for an LED, it’d be cheaper to get one from Digikey and pay $2.50 US shipping (which is an option).

  • Jac Goudsmit says:

    I said it before and I’ll say it again: I think RadioShack should start a one-day PCB service. Email or post your PCB design one day, pick them up at the Shack the next day.

  • JJ says:

    Is it just me, or is there no place to actually voice my opinion on the “3 things” ? No poll or anything on the blog. Are we supposed to just comment on their Facebook?

  • Andy says:

    Taking them at their word, and ignoring the cynical “it’s all a ploy” attitude, what I think we as DIY’ers want would be pretty simple:
    As others have noted, a good stock of common parts and tools. Lead-free solder. Beyond just caps and resistors, let’s see a better selection of some common logic chips – HC and HCT series gates, shift registers, motor drivers, more in the sensors drawer, microcontrollers of a few flavors and programming tools (AVR, Parallax, Microchip)… breadboards, power supplies, maybe some of the low-end scopes from Rigol or Velleman or USB scopes. The cheap but useful LOGIC analyzer from Saleae… I wind up buying tons of one offs on parts from digikey now because the stuff just isn’t available locally.

  • Maes says:

    PCB vending machine… now that would be an idea to explore. Completely automated, holds 5-6 different stock board sizes, takes gerber files as an input and spits out a finished, plated, silkscreened PCB some time later. Since the waiting time would be somewhat long-ish I could see a magnetic card / barcode + PIN authentification system for the customer to pick up his board a few hours later / the next day.

  • Tripointlogic Systems says:

    Where else can you go and pay $3.99 for a single 47uF 16v capacitor ?? Lol

  • Duncan says:

    I dislike Radio Shack, their prices are too high. I can buy many, many resistors and a storage bin for them and still save money and have resistor values that I’ll never use. I’m usually up late tinkering and RS is already closed by then, and if I order from Mouser by 8 PM, I’ll have it the next day, and it’s much cheaper….I’ve given up on RS.

  • Chetchez says:

    1 Get rid of the RC cars / cheap toys with movie tie ins
    2 Hire people who have a passion for electronics / DIY or something other than watching ESPN on the TVs. We’ve all heard the unofficial Radio Shack motto “You’ve got questions, we’ve got dumb looks”
    3 Get rid of the TVs and consumer crap that we can (and do) get a Best Buy for cheaper.
    4 No, I don’t want a new cell phone or DirectTV. We’ll go to the AT&T or Verizon store for a phone or order it online.
    5 Carry something other than cheap tools – We’d pay for a better soldering iron if you sold one.

  • Joe says:

    I agree that it would be great to have a decent selection of parts at the local Radio Shack, like they used to have. However, I don’t think the market can sustain this.

    Most consumers are just that. They consume and don’t know how anything works, or care to fix it. Throw it out and buy another one is the attitude.

    As for my three local Radio Shack stores, something has happened in recent months, but I don’t know why. At least two of the managers who have been there for many years are suddenly gone. It makes me think that Corporate forced them out for some reason. Now, one of those managers was a real jerk, but the other was knowledgeable and helpful.

    Radio Shack was an institution and a favorite place to go when I was growing up. Now I seldom go there, because they have almost nothing I want. I frankly don’t hold out much hope that they will survive another ten years.

  • qwerty says:

    Being outside of the US I can’t comment on Radio Shack, but if they’re going the same line as other electronics stuff retailers in other countries then it’s normal. MRC nailed it: a shrinking market and the Internet killed what made those sellers competitive. Why stocking thousands of components that will become obsolete before someone buys them or hire knowledgeable salespeople when one can ask for directions in a forum and buy online?
    It’s not just Radio Shack, all good old electronics sellers recycled themselves into cellphone shops because not doing so would have killed them even before 2000.

    The PCB service can be a killer idea but don’t expect them to even consider it unless they smell a hundred customers/shop or more per month, so just forget it. I’m not sure if today PCB milling/engraving/cutting/whatever machines can work completely unattended; adding a guy who can operate such a machine, which costs a lot more than the average drone, could discourage them.
    Anyway submitting a good idea is still free, so why not?

  • Paul says:

    Nothing short of an extremely wide and well stocked selection of electronic parts would ever make me want to step foot inside a Radio Shack ever again.

  • Zapp says:

    Advice to “The Shack”: FOAD. And please, do it quietly.

  • xorpunk says:

    Poor quality electronics selling for more than the better ones at other retailers..That’s been their MO for 2 decades now.

    My 0.02: Get with these popular bloggers and vendors and use their marketing before you tank..

    Also is it me or do they only hires burnouts and child support daddies there? I couldn’t get a job there as a teen but a bunch of morons on the interstate to nowhere can..

  • xorpunk says:

    also the lady in the video is soo PR department..and look at the staged store set..

    nobody is going to buy that stuff for reasons other than that it’s chinese garbage at 2x the cost of quality brands..lol

  • Elexorien says:

    Project enclosures that actually fit the dimensions of the protoboards they sell…

  • matt says:

    A good start would be training their employees to NOT joke around, asking if i’m making a bomb every time i walk up to the counter with a handful of parts.

  • mike says:

    RS used to carry (maybe they still do?) project lab boards that had an assortment of resistors, transistors, etc. that had little springs for connectors and a book with projects that someone who wanted to learn about electronics could purchase. Maybe they could collaborate with Sparkfun, Adafruit, etc. to come up with some newer project “kits” or “labs” with Arduino, Parallax, etc. that have instructions that could help people with an interest in electronics get started?

    In addition to some of the above comments, more pieces parts, the vending machine,

  • dwainedibbly says:

    How timely. This happened just this week:

    Mrs Dibbly has a little LED light with fiber optic strands sticking out of the top. She uses it at her desk. It burns 3 AAs, but who wants to use batteries when it would be easy enough to solder a couple of wires to the contacts and use the wall, right? I have an old wall wart, 5V, so I decide that I’ll buy the opposite connector & wire it to the light. No problem. Send Mrs Dibbly to the Radio Shack. Guy there is absolutely unhelpful. “What’s it for? What’s he making?” etc, etc. After 10 minutes of this it turns out he doesn’t have the part anyway, suggests another RS across town. Forget that. I ordered from Lady Ada and had it in 3 days.

    It *would* be really good to have a decent selection in-store, but I’m not convinced that this is sincere. I’m not saying I’ll never to in the store ever again, but RS has some work to do.

    And quit asking for my name, address, etc, all the time. What do I look like, the Unabomber?

  • andar_b says:

    Get rid of the phones. We’ll go to a…wait for it…phone store. I don’t know a single person who would go to Radio Shack for a TV or phone, period.

    Get rid of the low quality toys. Any toys you sell should be 100% hacker friendly or build-from-kit.

    Get rid of the useless employees, as previous posters have said.

  • bob says:

    the problem is they sell the same crap electronics as evry big box store but at an inflated price. i went there to get things i could not get else where locally. i drive to st louis now 30 miles to get what i got at my local r.s. if i want a cell phone i go to sprint. if i want a tv i go to walmart. a computer best buy. what do i go to r.s. for nothing anymore.

  • bob says:

    I’d be happy to buy at Radio Shack if they stocked anything I needed and did so at a reasonable price.

    Brick-and-mortar parts sellers are awesome for the prototyping phase because time is costly and I am guessing from day to day what parts I’ll need. A local source is very helpful.

    There are a few stores around that “get it” while Radio Shack has not for quite some time.

  • Marco says:

    “Would you like to buy a cellphone with this 4 pack of batteries ?”
    (This really happened!)

    I don’t mind the mark up, if only they had a selection worth browsing. Cooperating with sparkfun sounds like a pretty good idea. Or at least stock similar products and get rid of the cell phones.

  • MS3FGX says:

    Reading some of these comments is hilarious. Stop selling cell phones and consumer electronics? Only hire people with electronics/DIY knowledge? Are you serious?

    Like already said above, the VAST majority of people are simple consumers. They have zero technical knowledge and have no interest in even replacement parts, let alone actually building something from scratch.

    Thinking that refocusing Radio Shack on an extreme minority of the customer base is somehow going to make them more relevant than playing to the majority of American consumers is ludicrous.

    As much as we would like it, there simply isn’t enough demand for a large chain of electronic component/equipment retailers in the 21st century.

  • oldfart says:

    Simply get Radio Shack to become a reseller of Jaycar Electronics http://www.jaycar.com.au
    They have international presence and meet a good halfway point between retail and die-hard hobbyist. For less fluff, and more die-hard, try http://www.altronics.com.au
    We haven’t forgotten how to have fun with hot bits.

  • cknopp says:

    As a current store manager, I whole heartedly concur with you guys spreading this like wildfire.

    We now have an accountant CEO instead of the solid stream of Marketing CEO’s, and dollars make sense to this man, Jim Gooch.

    We were told to reset our stores in anticipation to this influx, so it is the real deal.

    But please be kind… Help the stores that are there to help you. It is all well and good to add 3000 SKU’s to the stores, but you need to buy locally. Also drop a line about outdoor signage… From cellular to HaD emblems, I would love some kind of outside presence…

    Be specific as possible. Exact components, manufacturers, parts, small assemblies, everything. If you will shop at RS instead of mail order, you can have it all for a very long time.

    If anyone is near Turkey Creek in Knoxville, stop by and say HI!

  • AussieTech says:

    RadioShack operated in Australia as Tandy. They sold grossly overpriced worst quality components from day one, were staffed by people who didn’t know their arse from their elbow, and are thankfully now a rapidly fading (bad) memory.

  • Tech B. says:

    The last time I went to the local RS the asked if I needed help, I said I was looking for a PIR module; they responded, “is that a new IPhone add-on or something?” Then proceeded to ask me 7 times to buy batteries. Literally 7 times. I cursed the idiot, who by the way kept glancing at the TV that had some basketball game playing. I will never ever go back to a RS again. The manager didn’t even know what a transistor was…..

    As for what I would like to see sold there, I would like to see them sell ice cream. At least they might know what ice cream is, and would be the only reason I ever step foot in the shit hole they run.

  • Matt says:

    I think all the other posts stated everything I wanted to say. But, I will say it again: variety of parts.

    We went to be able to get a crazy assortment of parts from the.

  • merrick says:

    @mike
    I had one of those as a kid. I loved that thing, when adjusting a few wires makes an FM transmitter and such.
    I doubt they can actually compete with on-line stores when theres not enough of a market for the amount of stores they have. Maybe if only a choice few stores became a mega shack that carried a large supply of parts, kits, books, and a well trained staff then they could eventually beef up the mall stores.
    3 products? Make that number 10 and also categories. Do they seriously think that 3 products would even come close to a change. Look, the shack is a joke to anyone thats an electronic hobbyist. Its now like stopping by the grocery store for the hardware/automotive section

  • I will be giving all the advise i can, but do not have high expectations.there simply isn’t enough demand for a large chain of electronic component/equipment retailers in the 21st century.

  • Keith says:

    Yeah right, do us all a favor and just go out of business … please! I stopped going there at least 15 years ago. I won’t go back for any reason.

  • merrick says:

    @cknopp
    I didn’t see your post because I was still writing mine. I sincerely do want this and if 3000 SKU’s is what they are going to do in all shacks I will definitely take this more seriously. I want a local store to buy parts at because I hate waiting on shipping. If they want very specific items then I can name a few specifically but its hard to say which like resistors or caps to carry of the vast amount but they can get a list of the most common resistors, caps, LED’s, IC’s, etc… The big markup on those things won’t fly with this crowd but I wouldn’t mind paying a little extra to have it now. Last thing would be to give all their employees a little training into at least being able to know where to find a transistor even if they don’t know how one works. The autoparts stores do that, most of the employees don’t know how the parts work but they can give you the one you need

  • Microguy says:

    They’re gonna have to pick their market, and stick with it. Do they want the cheap consumer goods area? Or the hobbyist area? Or the HAM radio area? I doubt you can have it all.

    I still drop by from time to time, just to see what they may have that might be of any interest. I hardly ever find anything.

    I’d go with the hobby stuff, a wide selection of goods like wire, enclosures, hardware etc… Stuff that can be applies to most hobby stuff.

    But really, why buy there? Are they planning on beating out Digi-Key or Mouser?

    I don’t know how many people know, but RS used to have a really nice on-line supply of stuff. Some very cool stuff. Tons of parts and kits and tools and stuff. But I’m guessing, most people didn’t even know it. By then, they had stopped going there.

    I stopped going there after I lost a small fortune (to me at the time) in those sound generator chips. They had the wrong part in there and it had a different power supply connection. I must have gone through half a dozen of those chips before I finally got wise, all along, thinking it was my fault they were smoking.

    I wish ‘em luck though.

  • Ryan Vasquez says:

    haha i live in houston. We have EPO electronic parts outlet >D they have tens of thousands of parts at great prices. >D who needs radio shack!

  • Weaver says:

    In the UK they were known as Tandy before changing to RadioShack (Definitely not to be confused with Radio Spares). The shops have all but gone and the official online shop has only has a few audio connectors. They had competition from Maplin Electronics in the UK who still have many shops and an online store with a reasonable component selection though it is a bit light on the microcontoller side. If the is no competition in the US for an hobbyist electronics outlet maybe they can survive.

  • oldfart says:

    Or – here’s a new idea. Capture both the online buyers and face-to-face customers.

    Run the shopfront as an order capture desk.
    Keep a single inventory at the warehouses, with one of each in store for the ‘expensive’ bits.

    Order online – or ‘over the counter’ after touch & feel and determining the suitability for your needs.
    No extra unmarked shipping charge, Guaranteed delivery within 24 hours to niminated address. 50% off for second day, free for 3rd day and later. If you don’t like it you can return it to a store counter within 7 days unopened for refund and no obligation.

  • LordNothing says:

    i kinda like our local radio shack. its a very small town, population ~3k. so they are the only place you can go and get some parts. they also have better manors than some of the more urban radio shacks i’ve visited. most of the time they just leave me to brows the racks. they also throw valuble parts into the bargain bin. 50 cent 5v regulators are always turning up (i buy em as i find em). even when im getting jacked im still saving money, since the cost of shiping to ak is fucking insane. been unable to order from mouser or digikey, they dont like to tell me how much shipping costs. sparkfun has ok shipping, but not the place to go when you need a resistor or capacitor of a certain value. sometimes il order parts from china off of ebay, but usually shipping takes 3 weeks.

    as for what i want rs to stock, mcus, programmers, board etching supplies (ferric chloride, pcb material, etch resist pens, iron on circuit patterns and stencils, scopes and other test equipment, soldering irons that dont suck, kits, larger ic selections, smd parts, etc, etc.

  • Ben Bradley says:

    About ten years ago Radio Shack made a “Big Deal” about no longer asking for your name and address every time you buy as little as a resistor, which they had done to me since my first purchase circa 1970, and likely for many years before. Of course what they didn’t say in the ads were they changed to asking for your phone number so they could do a reverse lookup to mail you the same old flyers.

    The three things? Firstly, have THESE thousand parts in stock, secondly, have these OTHER thousand parts in stock, thirdly have ANOTHER thousand parts in stock.

    I must admit, in the mid-late 1990′s there was a wonderful retail outlet, at Buford Highway near 285, where the very first Home Depot store opened (then moved away), was a place named TechAmerica, a quite large space selling electronics parts, test equipment, specialty electronics/hobby magazines (AudioXpress, some SERIOUS Hobby Rocket magazine), and literally a few THOUSAND technical books – not (many of) the usual computer books regular bookstores sold, but electronics and engineering books one would otherwise have to order sight unseen. To browse through so many of these was a delight. The Atlanta Hobby Robot Club held its monthly meeting in the “training room” there, and that’s where I first connected with te club. Sometime during its tenure it changed its name to RadioShack.com (that’s exactly what the sign out front said), then it eventually closed.

    Now there are two Fry’s Electronics stores in the Atlanta area, and they’re several times the size of TechAmerica – even though most of the area is the usual TV computer/washer/dryer stuff, the electronics parts and test equipment section is roughly equal to the old TechAmerica, and they have a moderate range of technical books as well. I don’t have a clue how much of Fry’s parts sales are to business/R&D people needing parts faster than overnight (that could be substantial in Atlanta) and how much is tobbyists/non-commercial interests, but it helps everyone that Fry’s is open pretty longish hours and 7 days a week.

    The maker/hacker movement has certainly grown in recent years, but I don’t see it worth it for Radio Shack to get (back) into the raw parts business. Even if a well-stocked radio shack was closer, I’d rather go to Fry’s and not have the sales pitch.

    But no, I don’t believe Radio Shack will ever be 1/10th as good as Fry’s, as their income is by now 99.5 percent consumer electronics, and I’m surprised they’d even give a nod to or acknowledge their (former) parts customers. I’d rather buy mail-order surplus (All Electronics, Goldmine, etc.) than Radio Shack anyway (as if NEW, “Real Distributor” parts from Digikey and Mouser aren’t low enough cost), as I have a higher confidence those parts will more likely work and be more accurately described. Radio Shack parts have always been known as “floor sweepings” though some of the TechAmerica stuff appeared to be better.

    Last time I was at a Radio Shack the guy tried to sell me MSN dialup service (yes it’s been about ten years). I said I already had an ISP and he said MSN was more reliable. Okay. “Thank You For Sharing.”

  • Microguy says:

    Thinking about it some, I wouldn’t go parts so much, except the most used “common” stuff like LED’s etc…. But they did used to carry some tools that I could use.

    I don’t expect them to carry EREM or Lindstrom, but a nice butane torch, with “heat gun” attachment, maybe some off the wall but handy stuff. Nice enclosures with proto-board that fits, that sort of thing. The good part about that is they don’t have to stock a lot because they won’t sell a lot, but it’ll be there, and can be used a “get them in the store item” for other stuff, like the Arduino’s etc… dev Kits etc…

    But dump the phones, the cheap junk. But keep some of the cheap toys, I do buy some of those for parts!

  • cknopp says:

    They have ramped up new tech item training modules, and are already leading into condensing areas to bring in more parts drawers and such.

    I agree that the focus over the years has been on high margin, low quality electronics, but I sincerely have seen that change. Quality is something that you can sell, as a product or yourself. I have some lifelong customers because I help them daily in the store, by phone, or by text message. Some managers and staff actually embed into the fabric of their community. Career days at elementary schools and events at the local trade shows.

    Where I work, The Shack is the place for help, guidance, bang for your buck, and most of the time, a hearty laugh.

    I love what I do, and it is my regular “parts” customers that I know the best. They are our backbone, and it is great that upper management is truly catering to them now!

  • cknopp says:

    The phones pay for your stuff guys!

    Phones have no margin anywhere, but the accessories are what fun the RS ability to be there for you. IF it wasn’t for cellular revenue, I’m not sure that they would be able to offer as much as they do now.

    Also, did you know that RS’s new recurring Service Plan is the only “insurance” in the industry that covers rooted phones?

    Maybe The Shack has some amazing options for those that are willing to give them a shot.

    I invite anyone to my store. Don’t tell me, just shop it for something, and report back here. It is amazing what happens when you have a staff that truly cares about what their customers needs are.

  • Scott says:

    If they just had a big selection of switches, relays, connectors, resistors, capacitors, wire, enclosures, and prototyping tools I would be happy. There are many times I need a component and have to wait for one to ship to me because I am in a small city with very few resources.

  • Fallen says:

    The ones in Canada are even worse. Called “the source” now. They carry nothing. I went to Port Huron, Michigan on a day trip. There was a Radio Shack there that I checked out. They had an entire drawer of parts, vs the single isle that most of our stores have. They had a lot of parts I needed at fairly reasonable prices. Sure it was 4 times more than digikey, but at the same time they were fairly cheap and I was buying in single quantity.
    The sales staff had no clue about electronics, but they tried to help, and never tried to sell me anything I didn’t need.

  • Chris says:

    The best way to tell Radio Shack how to improve is to relate my last experience with them.

    I was working on a project and found I needed a power resistor of approximately 10K 2W. And I didn’t have anything near that value, or anything else I could reasonably string together a few of to make that value.

    I didn’t want to wait for mail-order, so I decided to try Radio Shack. That is, after all, where they’ve always had an advantage and are best used for, getting the small bits and pieces you end up not having at the last minute.

    First, I tried the website to see if they stocked what I needed. The search function works very poorly for electronic components (but great for consumer goods), so it wasn’t clear. And I knew calling the store was futile, so I decided to make the ten minute trip and see for myself.

    Upon walking in the store, it was overstaffed; with zero customers, and three employees standing around talking. One stopped talking long enough to ask “Can I help you”, and I said I needed an electronic component. He pointed vaguely somewhere towards the back of the store and immediately went back to chatting.

    After figuring out exactly where the parts were by myself, I located the appropriate drawer and opened it. It quickly became apparent that nothing was where it was supposed to be. I tried closing the drawer to try another, but it wouldn’t close. After repeated attempts and some wiggling, a few dozen ball bearings fell out of the drawer slide onto the floor, after which I was at least able to close it.

    After searching all the drawers, I found they had no power resistors *at all*. But they did at least have a five-pack of 2.2K 1/2W resistors I could string together better than anything in my parts bins. So I grabbed that, plus a pack of terminals that would come in handy, and headed to the counter.

    The employees were too busy chatting to pay me any attention. One glanced over at me a few times, and after a minute or so, I guess he decided I wasn’t going away, and finally rang up my purchase; with an obvious attitude that I was interrupting them with my measly $3 purchase.

    Radio Shack, are you listening? Try fixing all those basic issues first, before you get any grandiose dreams of becoming a hacker mecca.

  • The Steven says:

    Yep, another former Shacker checking in. I started in October of 1986 and worked in stores in NY and PA until “Thirteenth Month” 1996. (and met my wife at the last mall I worked in…

    I remember when market cycle on computers was 18 months. Remember the Tandy 2000? More than twice the computer than the PCjr.

    I remember selling my first 17-1000, fully loaded it had to weigh about 20 pounds, or at least it felt that way (go ahead an name that product)

    I helped set up the satellite dish in the front window of the Westbury Store, and then took it down when I sold it.

    I worked in 01- stores, 11- stores and 01+ stores. I managed V stores.

    So, now having introduced myself, here’s my $.02 The core RS customer first went in with their parent to pick up some “Force Feed” to solve a problem. Maybe it was a light bulb for a flash light, or an F81 connector. Perhaps it was a wire from the 15 series. They did not go in to get their arm twisted to get things they didn’t need. Anyone else remember “30/3/2″? My customers came in to get problems solved, I learned to write and draw upside-down so that I could make diagrams for my customers across the counter. Please, now-a-days it’s more like “You’ve got questions, they’ve got blank stares.” I go in, and they ask if they can help me, trust me kiddy, I’ve put up more peg-hooks than you’ve ever seen. I (still) have all my Mimms books.

    So, here it is, your core customer and the person who will keep the company going will be looking for a hobbyist behind the counter who shares their passion for do-it-yourself electronics. And going forward will understand the pros and cons of different dev boards, has built their own computers, can solder, and enjoys passing their knowledge on to others.

    And doesn’t indulge high pressure sales techniques.

  • dattaway says:

    Microcenter is several miles away and is more of an electronics store than RS ever has been (they stock Sparkfun goodies w00t!) And RS is two blocks away from my house, yet I will never walk through those doors again. I’m heavily stocked with electronic parts thanks to ebay.

  • Jeff says:

    I’ll take BS for 600 ..

    The only thing RS could do to stand out would be to break with the pack. Instead of emphasizing the sales and the marketing, it would help if they had a real vision. Not one of these corporate committee visions, to be revised every year as a way to update to market positioning. Get some dedicated to something, and make it work! Don’t ditch YOUR customer base just because someone else has a bigger customer base this year! If they could demonstrate real support for the DIY set by stocking kits, parts and tools, ditch the phones and cheap toys, and terminate the hard-sell techniques, some of us might venture back.

    IDK, maybe they can’t make enough money from parts, kits and tools to keep paying the rent for the stores, in which case the sad fact would be that the DIY’er friendly store concept from 1978 just won’t fly in 2011. Actually, I think that’s pretty much the case, and what we have here is marketing execs trying to think of new ways to trick people into coming in the door .. so that they can continue to practice the iCrap hard sell. If they want to do that, they should go with free coffee and fresh cookies.

  • asheets says:

    Restock all the Forrest Mims III books that I grew up with as a kid, then stock the parts needed to build those projects.

    Oh, and start selling those old-fashioned 200-in-one project boxes again. I had to find an antique off of eBay to give to my kid when he hit the 2nd grade, because the current models are just plastic junk.

  • Chris says:

    I’d like to see many of the same things as others here would, There is a real explosion of creativity going on right now with the emergence of open source hardware, and I think RS could immediately pick up a lot of long-lost cred by leveraging their thousands of stores to help introduce people to that world – say by using their buying power to purchase innovative products that emerge out of all this activity.

    Its great that they are asking for input. Perhaps they could do this, have an ongoing contest where each month they pick some cool homebrew electronics project that really stands out in usefulness, and then they offer it as a kit in their stores until stocks run out. They could set up an economic framework that would also help the inventor/designers get a bit of a start independently as businesses with that. The most popular ones could remain on sale in their stores. Some of them might become classic items of geek desire.

    That could support new companies and inventors and drop costs down substantially.

    What would I personally like to see them do that with?

    1.) To be true to their roots, I’d like to see them offer an inexpensive HF band (1-30 MHz or even up to low VHF) SDR (software defined radio) receiver kit. Say for under $150.. (I think that could be possible, in volume)

    2.) I’d like to see them offer a comprehensive collection of 1-wire sensors, temperature, humidity, relative air pressure, non-contact IR thermometer, USB adaptor for same, etc. as well as powered air registers, solenoid valves, for use in a sophisticated home energy savings/home automation environment.

    3.) I’d like to see them sell a basic single board computer that could boot off of flash memory, and display to commodity hardware – as well as use USB peripherals, WITH built in Ethernet, that supported ipv6, that could run a complete Linux, and at least 128MB RAM, preferably more, for less than $75. Kind of like the innovative computer in a HDMI plug that was written about here last month. ( http://hackaday.com/2011/05/06/miniature-pc-packs-a-big-punch/ )

    Or they could charge a bit more, and for each one that was bought at retail, they could GIVE one to a school *here in the US* that needed one to use in designing some cool project around it. Or to give to some kid who could use it and not break it.

    But, also I think we need to understand the economic realities of the retail store these days.

    Money is tight and we don’t want a resource like RS to vanish, sure they could be better but my guess is that they probably need to sell a lot of the stuff they do to stay open.

  • My suggestion would be to take the advice of everyone here, realize that this stuff doesn’t sell well in a retail setting, then discount everything to 5% of its original value.

    That’s the only reason I go there. Picked up a few RC car battery packs for 47 cents each. Picked up a hobby grade RC with four batteries for $50. Oh and a parallax PING was $30, which is on par with online.

  • Max says:

    Not many young boys and girls are interested in electronics anymore. Everything is buy and throw away … no serviceable parts, no taking things apart … you can’t even get schematics or parts for most things.

    There are so many posts here, I didn’t get to read them all, but did anyone mention that there used to be “corporate RS stores” and “privately owned RS stores”? They were very different. The private stores could do more things, and sell things that the corporate stores could not.

  • M4CGYV3R says:

    I honestly don’t see what the problem with Radio Shack is (except the whole ‘The Shack’ thing). If I absolutely need a component right now, and I can’t wait a few days for a Digi-Key or Mouser order, I will go to Radio Shack. They haven’t let me down yet (resistors, caps, leds, switches, etc).

    They have a great selection of starter electronic kits and instructional books at my local shop as well. Beyond just the ###-in-One project kits, they have BasicSTAMP II, Propeller, and even PIC starter kits.

    The only thing that would be as useful to me would be 4 conveniently-located brick-and-mortar Sparkfun stores in my hometown.

  • RS is great for quick-build things.

    1) Stock Arduinos and Propeller boards. I see the very rare Basic Stamp but that’s it. On that side — don’t bother with the printed manual, or have some without and at a lower price: the URL is usually silkscreened on the PCBs anyway.

    2) Rather than putting each individual 7805 or terminal block in a little plastic package, just put them in bins. This allows you guys to charge a bit less and probably make a bit more off each part, cuts waste, and increases effective available space.

    3) Carry some thin wire, in different colors, for proto board interconnects!

    4) You sell a very nice electronically controlled soldering station. Why do you never have the tips for it?

  • Jim says:

    First. If you want to get people in the door, stop selling cables and commodity electronics at outrageous prices. I will rarely go to RS because their prices are 400% what things should cost. $20 for a USB cable? Insane…
    Secondly, to make money you need to take a lesson from Think Geek and Sharper Image. Start selling cool stuff! Your RC cars and toys used to seem cool, but these days they’re just lame compared to your competition.
    Thirdly, I doubt very much you have the creativity and talent to innovate in electronics sales. Partner with Sparkfun to start selling kits and cool things. An Arduino selling for $30 probably has a healthy profit built in. You want some of this business.
    Honestly, I want RS to succeed. I want electronics and DIY engineering to be a part of America. So come on guys, get a clue.

  • von_neumann says:

    There is not enough money in components to support retail. Perhaps if they had a website with price & selection to compete with Digikey/Mouser they might pull in more business to the retail stores with add-on services, but I sure wouldn’t want to be writing the business plan.

  • Guest says:

    Who knew there was a whole community of Radio Shack haters like me?!

  • McGuiver says:

    Radio Shack was where I got my first kit in 1980. From there into Ham Radio, even commercial radio. I had many a kits from there. I don’t have a EE degree, but know a lot more than a few of our Electrical Engineers at work. They don’t even know about JTAG ports or how to use them. These are Engineers who got their degrees in the last 5 years. I had to bring in my JTAG cable from home to revive a piece they bricked with the wrong firmware.

    Radio Shack’s kits, and books is how I started. I wish my son was as interested in electronics as I was, instead of just playing Xbox. I started with an Atari 2800.

  • Peter Hiscocks says:

    My wife just bought a USB to mini adaptor cable there, and it was over $30. I saw something similar at a local Dollarama, for $3.00. We buy this kind of product from Asia so we know the markups, and at RS (and others, eg Best Buy) it’s extortionate.

    You can build a business around parts (see Creatron in Toronto), but you have to know the business and electronics.

  • cknopp says:

    I work between two of the biggest research facilities in the world. My everyday customers seriously are rocket scientists and particle physicists.

    If I had a complete robotics asile with several thousand components, my store would be standing room only.

    Oh, and I would comission HTC to create the CoCo4 to forward thing specs, like AMD C50 processor running Android x86….

    Oh, and the remark about being run by a hobbyist. That is the perfect example of what a store manager needs to be. If I didnt buy it for my wife and kids already, I dont feel comfortable selling it to you till I know for sure that it is good.

    I want to buy the goodies too!

    Buy cell phones at Radio Shack if you want larger assortments of slower moving merchandise.

    Oh, and parts bins (without packaging) can be counted by weight, instead of individual scanner zaps… BRILLIANT!

  • Ben Wright says:

    Step 1 -
    Yes it’s been mentioned before but remove every item that Best Buy and Walmart sell – as it seems that they are in the same parking lot around here (CA)

    Step 2-
    Carry kits from Parallax, sparks fun, entry level soldering kits, things for a 5th grade science experiment, decent electronic tools and meters.

    Step 3- If your only going to employ high school kids, don’t have them croud you when you shop. I don’t care if you have to but stuff behind glass, but let me see it.

    Step 4- Use the lego store model of having big projects on display, have it appeal to kids. Imagine walking in there and seing a cool robitic arm or a 3-D printer making something. I have spent $400 on lego kits last year because the kid want them. If lego can have a store at the mall and only sell lego, I think Radio shack could sell electronic componets once again.

    Step 5 – Have a nice selection of new and vintage DIY books. The Forest Mims was mention (I have one out right now for the kids science project this week). The robot building books, battlebot books, the make magazine books. You need the books and the product lists from the books to get regular people into the electronics.

    It might already be a lost cause of a franchise.

  • cknopp says:

    Man, if you could come in and pre-order a custom spec cell phone for your carrier of choice, (Sprint, ATT, T-Mobile), and have it delivered in 7 days, that would be truly EPIC!

    That is what the Color Computer 4 should be!

    CoCo4

  • Tripp says:

    I can agree that a lot of the “Parts Drawer” and similar products at Radioshack are overpriced when you don’t work there. Though, I can tell you Radioshack is taking this seriously. I work there as a sales associate and recently they’ve started doing training on component parts. The first of which was basic electricity terms like what Volts, Amps, and Ohms are and what they mean. We’ve also got some nice literature in that had some good info for discrete circuits. There’s also a DIY newsletter that they’re going to start sending out via email. I think it’ll be interesting. Also, if you’re in the Va Beach area, feel free to stop by Radioshack store 01-1795. If I’m there I like chatting with fellow techies.

  • Tony says:

    Forget about discrete ICs, components.. no one designs hardware like that anymore these days.. Provide low cost MCU kits or PLD/FPGA kits that provide great educational as well as hobby needs. Those 100 in 1 science kits were great.. that’s how i got started in electronics.

  • John Moore says:

    I was disappointed when TV antennas were no longer a standard item. I’d like to see more Antenna hardware along with rotators etc…

    More effort on scanners. I have a few but the ability to load from my computer was very difficult and actually deactivated some of the preset functions. The 3rd party usb interface vendor told me he had reported this error but no one bothered to fix it with an update tc…

    Little mixers like the behringer variety would be something I’d like to see.

  • Colecago says:

    My local radio shack has components but they don’t know shit about them. They are too concerned with what kind of cellphone they want to sell you and don’t give a shit about their other merchandise.

  • Joe says:

    What if Radio Shack stopped referring to its customers as consumers? DIY consumer what the hell is that even.

  • Clauson Atkin says:

    There are always going to be people that can bring products to the consumer cheaper, and with greater selection, but what I think would be really amazing would be to help people learn about those projects. Use the shack as a way to foster the creativity in young kids and adults the way it used to. I would gladly pay more to be able to go to a Radioshack with my son and have a workbench (and helpful employees) that could help us make something that would blow his mind! Please give this some thought, Radioshack. The personal touch is what’s missing now, and what the online retailers can’t provide.

    Sincerely,
    Clauson Atkin

  • Anonymous says:

    Start stocking the 350-in-one kids’ beginners kits again. They’re undoubtedly responsible for getting people into electronics. Better yet, make some new kits with simple robotics and USB connected “my first program” development software (sort of like Lego Mindstorms, but built around a PIC or BASIC stamp). Later on, move them up to the stock of Arduino-compatible hardware. This isn’t 1988 anymore, microcontrollers are inexpensive and are relatively simple to play with.

    Stock higher quality tools. It’s pretty bad when the tools on sale for half the price at Harbor Freight are made better.

    Also brand all the DIY stuff with the old logo. I miss it. :c

  • James Hutto says:

    As the owner and operator of Radioshacksucks.biz I have to say this. I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT!

  • Ron says:

    They need to keep the components, move up to PLC’s and component systems maybe even like the arduino. But, as electronics ‘SPECIALISTS’ I would see myself purchasing educational materials (books and such, electronic or otherwise) from them if they could supply a consistent view with broad resources. They can loose their ‘proprietary’ part numbering system and hitch up with legit numbers from the manufacturers themselves (and really sell those brands.

  • that guy says:

    since most of the truly helpful comments are from people who remember those bygone ‘back in the’ days with far more electronics knowledge than myself, your only hope is to put all your resources into developing a time machine that will transport us all back to the time when you were relevant, and knew what people wanted instead of chasing a quick buck on trash we can get at Walmart.

    Even if you found another niche, you have wasted any good will you had by doing exactly what is described in these posts. I haven’t been in a ‘Shack’ in decades, you have nothing I need or want. I sincerely doubt you have a clue on how to change that. Maybe you should pursue the sport-tuner market, that’s obviously booming.

  • Jim says:

    (Did she say dipsh*ts?)…Do the masses care about DIY? Probably not. In SoCal, Frys killed most of the other DIY stores. How about 1 *really* complete DIY store in a region, instead of trying to make every store work for every Geek? The opposite of the “Incredible Universe” flop that RS did years ago. Also consider engaging Makers with DIY events. Partner with the FabLabs out there.

  • s1500 says:

    Radio Shack will always be 20 years out of date to me. The world of electronics moved on without them. It’s too bad since with all the suggestions here, it could be better. How about supply parts for people who want to setup a DIY MAME cabinet? Or pinball machine parts?

  • jeff says:

    They let down the hobbyist community, had ridiculous prices for parts, and stocked less and less parts to put more cheap rebranded goods on the shelves.

    In many radio shacks I would always find unpacked boxes or store utility stuff blocking all access to the corner where the put all the electronics.

    It really sucks when the first ‘real’ electronics store is 120 km from you.

    Now they’ve seen that they missed the boat, and that they underestimated the scale and profit to be made with the diy community.

    I salute the opportunistic effort, but you don’t fuck me over twice.

  • Drone says:

    The U.S. public education system intentionally suppresses the development of skills in science, engineering, and mathematics. So there’s no market for “Geek” or “Nerd” stuff. Give up on this Radio Shack. You’re better off stocking iPhones and anything else that Tweets or does Facebook. That’s where the money is for the foreseeable future.

  • fluxster says:

    Hey..maybe we are going about it the wrong way…i know what radio shack can’t do..but what about all of you people (including you Caleb) direct me to your sources other than online..if someone lives in area X and someone may know a place to send people to…i live outside of Toronto, Canada and it is well known that we have a silicon valley North about two blocks of companies in electronics..the list is long..so tell people where you go for stuff, let Radio Shack die like the endangered species it is..

  • PeteH says:

    When I was a young kid, we had the 350-in-one electronics project kits – little spring loaded connectors w/ components and wires, not really sophisticated, but good for learning. I see lots of places with simple robotics kits that probably young teens could build, and the new microcontrollers. Sadly I see less kids interested in electronics (and I grew up with a TV-repairman grandfather working on old tube sets, so I’m biased), and more interested in playing on their Xbox or texting on their phones. My first computer was the trs-80 model-I, and I built a stepper motor driver for it, and various other little things – nowadays you’d want PIC or arudino and USB interface or something, but I think the challenge is to show things that would interest kids into it… a robotic arm “kit” (like the old armatrons) that could be controlled via their laptop-pc?

    Part of the problem I see is they’ve over the years alienated those of us that *are* “DIY’ers”, I rarely go to RS, not because I can get what I need online cheaper, but because quite honestly they carry almost nothing I need anymore. And if you’re going to ‘groom’ a new generation, you have to start young – they’ll be the “DIY” business of the future if you can get their interest.

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