Master lock “picking”

posted Jun 22nd 2005 9:30am by
filed under: misc hacks

combination lock

Here’s any easy method for backing out the combination of a Master Lock. In a perfect world there would be 64,000 possible lock combinations (403). The construction of the lock prevents this from happening: sloppiness in the dial and the numbers are not mathematically independent. First step is to determine the last number in the sequence. You can then use that number to determine the other possible numbers in the combination. You will end up with about 100 combinations to try, but that’s far better than having to throw the lock out which I’m sure would happen if you had to try 64,000.

UPDATE: x04d sent in a video demo (DivX) (dead link) of how to open a lock in 2 sec. using a padlock shim.

UPDATE: The linked video above has long been dead. Check out our more recent Master lock post for an embedded shimming video



102 Responses to Master lock “picking”

  • CaptSnuffy says:

    this kid i know just finds open locks in in our school and then he takes them home and pops them open with a screwdriver and just watches the internal parts. Easier, and you get free locks.

  • Priest says:

    And just how would you open a master lock with a screwdriver? Doesn’t make sense to me.

  • x04d says:

    Dear all hackaday readers, i have created a little video that will show you how to open a master combinaison lock in about 2sec. What you need is a tool called a padlock shims avaiable on various lockpicking webshop like lockpickshop.com. Here it is: http://toad.datap0rt.info/x04d_masterlock.avi

    The video has been encoded using the DivX video codec.

    x04d

  • matty says:

    x04d, I spent hours learning to pick those babies without any real success. you are pro.

  • nickfury says:

    I hate to say this because I know someone is going to flame me for it and tell me I’m wrong.

    I spent two years of high school trying to open “master locks”. I will guarantee that the pulling up on the locking mechanism (the U shaped thing) will not work on any of the Master Lock padlocks made in the last few years (I’m talking the trademark brand of master lock… not the cheapo ones).

    This trick however will work fine on almost any of the cheapo ones that most people buy.

    Anyway, if you don’t believe me then go try it on a master lock branded padlock.

  • chris says:

    Ok after seeing that video i really dont feel my stuff is safe anymore that was… a little too easy LOL.

  • x04d says:

    As you can see in the video, the master lock that i used is quite new according to the teen colors. I think i’ve bought it last summer in a Wall-Mart. However, I know exactly what you mean: some masterlock seems unhackable using padlock shims and this is because they changed the mecanism a _little bit_. For those models, you just need to put the shims not directly on the retention mecanism because that will block for sure and probably broke the shims if you put to much pressure. You need to put the shim a little away from the middle, lift the shakle a little bit by shaking it up and down, and then move the shim slowly in the middle. It’ll slide itself under the retention mecanism and then you can lift the shackle without problem ^_^

    I’ve passed some time studing locks, it required a lot of pratice ^_^

  • aDAM says:

    I learned the combination method posted a year ago and have been successfully opening master locks ever since. It works, I swear. Get so you don’t have to write the possible combinations down, and do it all in your head. Honestly, buy a lock, hide the combination from yourself, and you’ll get a rush when it opens. There are tricks you’ll learn to get faster along the way.

  • Arthur says:

    Does the shim thing work for the other kind of Master combination lock as well? The much sturdier looking kind, generally bronze-ish, with four 0-9 dials on the bottom?

  • orphrey says:

    There is a method for opening some of those brass combination locks using a thin bit of metal inserted beside the dial. It works by detecting a flat place on the dial shaft.

    I can’t find it right now, but the process (IIRC) was to put this thin shim in one of the end dials, pressing against the shaft, rotate until you find the flat spot, and repeat for each dial.

    That either gave the combination, or a combination that was a fixed offset from the real combination.

  • Leginuoh says:

    does anyone know how to open those locks common in highschool locks where the lock is embedded into the locker and opens by sliding a metal piece sideways?

  • bob says:

    dude, what-the-fuck-ever! i am so pissed off!

    i submitted that link as anonymous, and you go and attribute it to some eliot phillips???

    fuck you. this is not the first time this has happened. stop stroking your friends’ cocks, asshole.

  • Bob,
    My name is on it because I posted it, I post all of the features. You submitted it anonymously, did you want [thanks anonymous] at the end?

  • Steve says:

    There aren’t 40^3 combinations. The markings on the dial are just aesthetic. The locking mechanism only has 10 positions, hence 10^3 combinations.

    As noted earlier, this weakness was corrected in Master Locks several years ago.

  • anonymous says:

    I really feel for the blog owners (eliot and vince) who have to put up with all this violence in their comments. I’m glad that the hackers I know in RL have social skills. Just because you’re on the internet doesn’t mean you have to treat everyone like shit.

    Anyway, vince and eliot, keep up the good work, I think they really do appreciate it. I certainly do.

  • anonymous says:

    (oh, I was posting concerning bob’s lack of self control, not about you steve)

  • anonymous says:

    (oh, I was posting concerning bob’s lack of self control, not about you steve)

  • bob smith says:

    why brute force a master lock, i’ve got bolt cutters.

  • nate says:

    This definitely works, although your fingers will be tired from spinning the dial. I had a Master Lock which I didn’t have the combo too, stuck with it, and got it open this afternoon. It just takes a little bit of patience.

  • CaptSnuffy says:

    word 17, why pick your way through the front door when you can take a bat to the back window?

    but seriously, lockpicking is cool challenge. Definitely something im in to.

  • some dude says:

    I’m suprised nobody has pointed out how old this is. I read about this on the Internet at least four years ago. It’s probably more like eight years, but I can’t remember.

    Also, it’s not very useful. Going through up to 100 combinations “in the field” is not generally acceptable. And then there’s the fact that combination locks are rarely used for anything other than school and gym lockers. Real lock picking is much more useful.

  • Joshua Peek says:

    The new homepage of the original Masterlock Cracker app http://homepage.mac.com/joshpeek/masterlockcracker.html

    I’m working on updating it. I’m going to make a bunch of different version besides a VB one. For an example, a java applet, cocoa version, a perl version, etc. I hope your computer will be able to run one of these versions.

  • nate mc says:

    So we have a video? this is a hack? where is the plans for the shim damnit!

  • gigman says:

    I dont know if anyone has ever seen this but would it be too hard to hook up a stepper moter to a pic or a basic stamp and have it try all the combonations (using some logical system) really fast? Just an idea.

  • DNordbak says:

    Do you think any coders out there could make the “masterlock cracker” program into a java app? Just something that could be installed on a cell phone. That way, all you would have to do is figure out the last digit, open the program on your cell, and voila! It would be much more convenient than carrying a laptop around with the prog, or (dare i say) learning all of the math involved!

  • windwaker says:

    I want to see a DIY on shims. Like, making them shouldn’t be hard, plus using them seems to be the easiest way.

  • CaptSnuffy says:

    you can just buy a set of shims online

    not too expensive

  • Jon says:

    To Chris ( 6 – http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000640047476#c305871 ) You should try using a Kryptonite lock then. heh heh

    And this article is so useful, it’s one thing to need to crack a lock, but its a whole other story if you find some lying around your house and don’t want to throw them out just because you’ve lost the combo.

  • Bucky says:

    after reading this article, I was successful in using this trick to open a master lock. Very very cool, and not too difficult provided that you have patience.

  • ryan says:

    ive made shims out of hairpins before, not hard to make and last quite a while if you do it correctly. Ive heard of using some metal tape mesure as a shim, sounds good but never gave it a try because hairpins never failed me( except on masterlocks, in which real shims usually will not work)

  • ScottVR says:

    This thread inspired me to write a CGI version of the app since the link to the VB app was unavailable and I saw some references to a web-based one at some university but it seems to be long gone as well. here it is, http://www.dfw.net/~scottvr/crackmaster/
    There is also a link to the source.

  • Joshua Peek says:

    >>DNordbak

    Thats a really good idea! Infact, my next version is going be written in java. I just never thought of putting it on my phone. How easily can this be done?

  • Arthur says:

    Orphrey, any idea where to get a shim thin enough to fit in that tiny little space next to the dials on the brass locks?

    Bob, how does one know before blowing a whole bunch of money on boltcutters whether they will be strong enough to cut the lock in question?

  • DNordbak says:

    josh, I really have no idea. But I was thinking either symbian or java, but more phones can run java apps, so it would seem better suited for that. I have no experience in coding, so I couldn’t help you out there, but as for installing it on your phone, it should be relatively simple.

  • jaded says:

    When I was a teen long, long ago, i figured out a different method to brute force master locks. it was easier then because they didn’t have the “dummy” notches cut in the drive wheel that this guy’s algorithm identifies — just pulling on the shackle while spinning would reveal the last digit.

    The brute-force method is simple: don’t dial the whole digit space every time. first, i only used the numbers 2.5 apart, so I’d start with a first digit of 0, then 2.5, then 5, and so on around the dial until I got to 37.5. (masterlocks are made in great haste at low cost, so getting within a digit or so is usually close enough to open it.)

    The important part i discovered was that by understanding how the “earlier” digit wheels are spun by the later digit wheels, I figured out that i didn’t have to go all the way back and redial all three digits every time. i’d dial the starting digit (usually zero) then go back all the way around a full turn, then stop at the first digit +2.5, and then back to the last digit. Rather than a two-full-spin reset, I simply went forward only to the first digit +5, then back to the last digit. I’d repeat, going back to +7.5, +10, etc., until the second digit was approaching the first at which point I had completely exhausted the first digit. I’d then spin the dial twice for a full reset of the inner dials, and change to the next first digit.

    if i made a mistake, I’d simply spin the dial twice, starting with the same first digit but picking up the second digit where i had left off.

    with not much practice, I was able to spin through two full first digits tests in about a minute, for a max of 20 minutes per lock. my average is probably about 10-15 minutes per lock (there are always a few screwups, and lost counts.)

    Also, with the addition of the dummy detents found in the current crop of masterlocks i found i could no longer spin directly to the last digit. i had to stop at every little indentation in the last wheel and try the shackle at each point. my finger is usually pretty tired after testing all those combos.

    a final note: once the lock is open (or if you simply encounter an open lock as a bonus), peer inside the lock with a flashlight. you can usually see the wheels inside the lock. take the opportunity to manipulate the lock until you’ve lined up all three notches by eyeball. make note of the combination you dialed (say you saw 10-32-24) now, add (or subtract, i can never remember which) about 10 to each number (yielding 20-2-34, note the wrap around the number 0). in any case the real combination will always be some fixed offset from your observed combination.

    have fun!

  • gavalt says:

    Please select one of the following as a standard HACKADAY comment:
    1) This is a hack? No way dude, this isn’t a hack at all! You don’t know anything!

    2) This is so old. I knew about this back when I was in diapers.

    3) Sure, but this is the crappy way to do it. I invented a special method of doing it which is far superior. But I’m not giving away my secrets, because then you’d know I’m full of it.

  • brandon says:

    the old master locks can be opened by kicking them, like on school lockers, hold it up so the back is facing you (it will be almost upside down) give it a good kick and it should pop open. it doesnt break the internals either.

  • strazzere says:

    I’ve made a couple of padlock shims, i’d shy away from soda cans – you’ll end up with a lot of cut fingers – very painful for your everday hacker to type with those cuts too! haha

    a good metal i’ve found is the metal off of floppy disks (i’ve tested with a few lying around the office and “CH” have worked the best for me) If need be i’ll post a tutorial on making them. Beware that some floppy disks metal is weaker than others, and some is a *smigget* thicked than others. Mess around until you get a good one. Also these shims weaken over time and only work for about 3-5 padlocks… Becareful when using them so you don’t end up breaking it in the lock. This metal is also useful because it’s pre-rounded so you get less cuts :)

    here’s an ascii diagram of what it looks like, first flatten it out…
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
    | |
    | |
    | |
    | _______ _______ |
    || | | ||
    ||_______| |_______||
    |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _|

    Then you cut them up and you can make two… one for larger locks and one for smaller locks…

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
    | |
    | _ _ |
    | / | | |
    | _ _/ |_| _ _ _|
    _
    _ _ _ _| |_ _ _ _ _
    |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _|

    The top one has worked best for me…

  • strazzere says:

    [sigh] it killed my formating, if anyone even reads this and wants pictures, just give me a shout or post it here and I’ll do it on a different page with pictures…

  • windwaker says:

    Shouting.

    DIY padlock shims, with FLOPPY DISKS = perfect hackaday material, and helps for everyday hax0ring.

  • jerery says:

    Show them floppy metal shims please.
    Thanks

  • Dr.Math says:

    I liked the cell phone thing, but i m working on my calculator way.I have the (actually i rent it form school) those TI graphing calculator, it takes many stuffs even mario games , so i m trying to load this programme too.Just started the Scratch programming after understanding the logic of this stuff.I alwyas wanted to do this, after seeing those movies where people open thoses locks (Italian Job)
    Thanks for this post….

  • panochapower says:

    18
    youve got bolt-cutters

    18.5
    ive got a torch! and a portable band saw, and a dremel, and a…

  • panochapower says:

    20
    bat to rear window is SO violent! then you still hafta climb or reach thru it. well… ya gotta do what ya gotta do – just check & make sure you werent sent written invitation first: can you see hinge pins? awfully “get smart”, wouldnt you say?

  • panochapower says:

    aka criminally “challenged” (congenital defect)

    but eliot…
    i only wanna change the combo on my master padlock – can it be done key-free? even by me?

  • Davey says:

    Sigh… this is like windows (or VAX…), why the hell are people still using it?

    Well, why don’t you guy’s check out http://www.toool.nl/index-eng.php
    and
    http://connect.waag.org/toool/

    They have some very nice videos and inforations about this.

  • JOhn says:

    I have an old Yale combo lock and I’ve forgotten the combination. It has 5 “sticky points”. Any idea on how to figure out the combination?
    -john

  • rickysad says:

    ok…feel free to email me at rickysad@gmail.com

    when i was in highschool…. 1985 or so a friend showed me how to read the serial number? on the back of a master lock, and there was this formula you could use…and with a very slight bit of trial/error you could open ANY standard (locker type) combination lock… i could open ANY master lock on any locker in my high school…. did anyone else ever run into this ????? it was amazing…. the TEACHERS would have me open locks of students who forgot their combos….

  • julie says:

    hi, i’m trying to change the combo on my Dudley lock, is there any way? plz add me rko_sunshinebeauty18@hotmail.com if you know how

  • Sirlancelot says:

    I think that just taking the whole entire lock apart with a pair of normal plyers (cat cut metal) and maybe a screw driver is much more fun, unless its ur own lock… I can take apart a lock in about 10-15 minutes…

  • Sirlancelot says:

    I think that just taking the whole entire lock apart with a pair of normal plyers (cat cut metal) and maybe a screw driver is much more fun, unless its ur own lock… I can take apart a lock in about 10-15 minutes…

  • Tim says:

    I used to open the combo locks with a shoe string, rapping it twice around the dial and then pulling the shoestring up and down verying your strokes up and down till it opened! Anyone heard of opening them that way? It does work!

  • md says:

    my gf got my old locker. she gave the combo and i saw that its the only 6 numbers different that mine was. say my combo was 10-10-10. hers is 4-4-4. we tried this on a bunch of lockers my buds had lst year and they all open with 6 less than there old combos. i dont know if this is a pattern. this is a new school with new locks with zephyr lock on the knob. so i don’t think its cause there old or busted or anything. is evry lock like this? -md

  • matthew says:

    I could REALLY use your help!

    My trusted Dudley lock, which I have used for over 10 years, seems to be stuck. The locking portion of the U seems to be stuck: it won’t pull up, and it won’t go back down into the rest of the lock. The dial won’t move, either… although if I jiggle the U, i can get it to move a little bit (sometimes).

    Any ideas? I’d hate to get a new one, since I’ve used this same combinations forever!

    Thanks,
    Matt

  • Doug says:

    Hey I forgot the combination to my master lock and would like to see if you any way on cracking it. It is a Master Lock 175 four digit combo. Thanks

  • steve says:

    hey i have the serial number for my lock, which is the ones they use at school in the locker rooms, its a masterlock with the u shape thing. can someone give me the combo?

  • Kyle says:

    Hey, does anyone know how to crack a Dudley lock? I really need to get into my locker as all my stuffs there, but I can’t get in it. My school knows that Masterlocks are easy to get into, so they all have Dudley. I really need in my locker. If someone knows how to, Can you please email me at Chaos_is_fun@hotmail.com ?

    Thanks.

  • ummmmm yea says:

    ox4d yea the little clip on how to open a master combination lock in 2 sec. dosnt work so could you plz add a comment on how to open one in 2 sec. thnks

  • lock dock says:

    does any one no if it is possible to impress a key for a master combination lock?
    and what size key would you need to impress the key hole on it?

    if you no how plz add me to ur account or send me a email on how to do that thx

    lol565lol@hotmail.com

  • Mary says:

    I have a Master Luggage lock that is stuck locked. I don’t remember the combination of THREE numbers to open the lock.
    The #is: 468ODBLK.

    Thank you to anyone who can tell me the easiest way to open this lock.

  • Mary says:

    I have a Master Luggage lock with three rows of numbers. It is locked and I cannot open it since I do not remember the combination. The Lock Number is: 468ODBLK.

    Thank you for your help! 8-)

  • neoanarchist says:

    Hey, does anyone know the exact mathematical equations that are behind the generated 100 combinations? I’d like to program this on my calculator in Q-Basic and was wondering if anyone could help me out.

    If you can, please email me the necessary math to injection@gmail.com

  • Alexej says:

    I have a Master lock (40 numbers dial), 3 numbers combination to open
    I remmember only that first # is 0
    lock # 909567
    pls help if you can

  • Spazz says:

    can sum1 explain the difference between the newer and older dial master lock latch bars…i just pent 15 min. trying to shim what i think is a newer model, cuz iv done it before fine

  • Kevin says:

    i have a 40 number master lock that i have no clue what the combo is, is there any way to find out the combo except guessing if you know email me at dewfreak81@yahoo.com

  • marty says:

    well i got a 40 number masterlock, i seen the video but i don’t understand it. can somebody please email me back to tell me how to crack it?? thx

  • andrew says:

    i lost my combo in one of thoese 3 number combo locks so email me at demoninuyasha_572@yahoo.com if u can tell me how ta crak it :-)

  • andrew says:

    hey i need the combo for a backpack lock model

  • Ken Manley says:

    Like Doug, I have misplaced the combo to my Master Lock 4 digit combo, #175. Any help would be appreciated.

  • Ovidsmuse says:

    Just so everyone knows, I bought two brand new masterlocks today, name brand with the black dial. Shim does not work, and I’m not suprised. Finding the 12 digit’s and eliminating 11 of them, then using modulo 4 to further get 100 combinations still works. I opened the new lock without looking at the combiniation in under 5 min. Then I opened another older lock my roomate had forgoton the combo for in about 8. (the combination was further down the list of possibilities that the first one.)
    One thing to remember is that most locks are made to be exploited, so a locksmith can unlock them if need be.

  • Ovidsmuse says:

    Just so everyone knows, I bought two brand new masterlocks today, name brand with the black dial. Shim does not work, and I’m not suprised. Finding the 12 digit’s and eliminating 11 of them, then using modulo 4 to further get 100 combinations still works. I opened the new lock without looking at the combiniation in under 5 min. Then I opened another older lock my roomate had forgoton the combo for in about 8. (the combination was further down the list of possibilities that the first one.)
    One thing to remember is that most locks are made to be exploited, so a locksmith can unlock them if need be.

  • Toni says:

    I somehow set my 3 digit master lock incorrectly, so i too need to know a way to crack it. Marty, where can i get this video u are talking about?

  • Philip J Fry says:

    You can make a verry crude version of the lock shim by using the dust sleeve of a floppy disk and cutting it down to look like the one in the video, i did this and have a working shim for my Combo lock.

  • wim says:

    richard feynman’s autobiography where he talks about doing this at los alamos in the 1940s is fun.

  • Chovy says:

    I may have found a flaw in this entire hack. I just purchased a master lock, yes a true MASTER LOCK. The combination was 23-28-33.
    If I’m not mistaken, and I have taken CALC 1250.
    23 and 33 are not modualarly equivalent.

    Does anyone have any clue whats going on.

  • Anonymous says:

    More important:
    Does anyone have any clue what ‘modualarly equivalent’ means?

    :-p

  • jr says:

    That is odd. My best explanation is that the locks are not accurate down to the number. The algorithm would yield 21 and 25 (both of which are congruent to 33 mod 4), and it’s possible that 22 falls within the effective range – the room for error – of one of those values. Another consideration is that the given final value might not be quite right either – try to find the last value using the procedure as given, you might find it isn’t exactly 33. If it’s 35, for instance, that’s congruent to 23 mod 4. If it’s 34, then it’s congruent to 22 mod 4, and 22 could easily be in the same range as 23.

    Anyhoo, that’s my best guess.

  • Fräulein says:

    I tried the method posted by strazzere, using shims made from the metal on a diskette. EXCELLENT! I got the lock open immediately.
    I used to do it the old fashioned way, by dialing the numbers, listening and pulling the hasp – that was never 100 percent accurate and took effort and time. This method so far has been 100 percent and never takes long.

    PS – I used this for “good”. Students do things that they think are funny, like locking their combination lock onto other peoples property, which requires the bolt cutters to be found. This year THEY were the ones who would have to go look for a set of bolt cutters, to remove someone elses lock from the handle on their back pack.

    Thank you for the new and improved version to pop a lock. :D Many kisses.

  • marty says:

    toni go all the way up the page and its a little text ill copy past it for ya : UPDATE: x04d sent in a video demo (DivX) of how to open a lock in 2 sec. using a padlock shim.

    its under the small text on top

  • marty says:

    i made a padlock shim but i dont know where to put it in so i tried the shacle and it dosent fit in so could anyone help me cause all my stuff is in it :S

  • marty says:

    by the way my if u know how to open a lock please email me at : thadudeorama@gmail.com or
    latreillemartin7@hotmail.com

  • lwc says:

    23-28-33? Seems it is about mod 10, or mod 5.

  • brian says:

    Just bought two master locks today. One standard black, model 1500D combo 39-25-31. This one cracked by the book.

    The other green, model 1529D combo 15-20-33 was difficult to find the last digit. I finally peeked and found the same problem that Chovy found. 33 mod 4 is 1 (33/4=8 rm 1), so the first digit combos should be: 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, 25, 29, 33, 37. The actual first digit is not on the list. I tried using 13 and 17 with no luck. Maybe this trick only works with certain models?

  • brian says:

    Many apologies… I just doubled checked and 13-19-33 does in fact work.

  • user says:

    As far as security is concerned, it’s not that hard to break open a combination lock, from what I remember. All you have to do is put a metal bar, preferably one that’s about the same thickness of the space of the shackle, inside the shackle and pull/push down. It breaks off quite easily.

  • marty says:

    where can i get a peice of metal the thicknesse of a shackle ?? for free thadudeorama@gmail.com

  • sue says:

    I’ve found a way to open master #175 combo locks in less than 2 seconds using a very easy to make tool.
    Also works on sesame combos…these type of padlocks look secure but are actually the easyest locks to open.
    email me for info. zoome_1@yahoo.com

  • zoome says:

    This is the last time i will post this here …so listen up….I can show you how to make a key to open all #175 master combo locks, (thats the brass thumbwheel type, NOT THE CHEAPER DIAL TYPE,that is used mostly in locker rooms.)Its really amazing how easy it is…This is NOT A SHIM TOOL..it is a very easy to make KEY that will open ALL #175 master combination locks faster than you can work the combination!!!this is your last chance to be the first to learn this trick…I’ve looked all over the internet and have seen nothing on this hack…E-MAIL ME FOR DETAILS NOW….zoome_1@yahoo.com

  • Betty says:

    I have two Master combination locks that have unknown combinations. Can you help to break the lost codes for me to use the locks? Appreciate your input.

  • joshua says:

    i am just learning how to pick locks what is a great help guide to pad locks? joshuadg1@yahoo.com

  • Elena says:

    People, please send me the letter, how to open master locks or locks like Dudley, cause i forgot how to open my lock and i really need it to open it right now!! please hurry and send it plz~~!!

  • BofH says:

    Ok well. Our company backup files get taken offsite in a canister with a platic and wire seal and a crappy little padlock that needs a crappy little key. I once manage to break the seal and use the wire to crack the lock in about 5 minutes. I lost the key. Doin it ever since.

  • LOCKER1 says:

    One way to test a bolt cutter before buying it would be, if you’re in a hardware store, they have a bolt cutter they use themselves to cut chain–some times it is a fixed machine type thing but sometimes it is just a boltcutter. So ask them to look at their boltcutter and see if the jaws in particular are the same quality as the ones they sell. Ask if they cut case hardened chain with their cutter. And also just tell them you are buying this cutter for such and such a purpose and get them to assure you it will do the job. Then if it doesn’t, you’ve got a good reason to bring it back (with the thing it won’t cut would be good) and get a refund. If they get tough the legal angle is they warranted it (represented it) (orally) to be useful for a particular purpose, you relied on their representation, and their warranty was breached.

  • Don AR says:

    Hey.. I work for a big machining company, and this one job we were doing, a company gave us a huge steel locker with a 0-99 combination on it. Is there any chance i can break this, or should i just get it drilled. Its been locked for about 2 years now and really just want to get inside lol.

  • Kevin says:

    I have combo padlock with a hole on the back and how do i make a key and get the key cut to the open the padlock the lock is model #1525 and wana find out how i can make a key that will open it. Can anyone that know,s how please email me at kevin.msmith@yahoo.com

  • rofl says:

    we used to use this and shims to play pranks on ppl at school. but my school forces us to use master locks with a key hole in the back for a master key. so we made our own key from tearing it apart and looking at the pin heights. took a while to get it right but it works on every school lock.

  • g_man1990 says:

    Can anyone send me video to my e-mail:
    gman1990@o2.pl

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