Electrodes turn your eyelids into 3D shutter glasses

[Jonathan Post] has a way to watch 3D video without wearing shutter glasses but it might be kind of a hard product to break into the market. As you can see above, a pair of electrodes are stuck on a viewer’s eyelids, using electricity to alternately close each eye. The video after the break shows a demonstration of this technology. Obviously a camera can’t capture the image that the viewer sees, but this man describes a perfect 3D image. This reminds us of those ab exercisers that use electrodes to stimulate the muscles. Do you think a 3 hour epic would leave your eyelids tired and sore, eventually resulting and a steroid-esque muscle-ridden face?

Edit from [Caleb]: Judging from the comments, some people believe this to be an absolute impossibility. While we concur that this example is pretty silly (what’s powering those electrodes?), we invite you to watch [Daito Manabe]‘s facial electrodes fun.

[Thanks Keba]

Comments

  1. Girrrrrrr2 says:

    Yeah… I will stay with the glasses…

  2. bolke says:

    As long as there is no proof, there is no product. I can stick 2 pcb’s with random components to my head and blink real fast, telling the world I’m seeing pink elephants. This is about as usefull as a post about scientology.

  3. Alexand3rS says:

    If he gets them going fast enough he could make it look like his eyes are always open.

    He could be the KING of Staring Contests!

  4. Sly says:

    Fake,
    60 blink per second for muscle, naaaa.

  5. NegativeK says:

    Say it with me now: Satire.

  6. Bob says:

    fake

    this would be incredibly painful after a couple seconds

  7. Tech B. says:

    I LOLED so hard on this. I agree, sticking with the glasses.

    +1 for making my day XD.

  8. lampshade says:

    It’s a joke, folks! (read: “not real”) It was funny at first, now it’s just sad to see how many people are taking this seriously.

  9. Whoever says:

    LOL no doubt it works here, but that must feel funny.. And the flickering must suck :-P

    +1 “will stay with the glasses”

  10. andrew says:

    I think your eye-lid muscles would become fatigued after just a few seconds. No one’s going to use this for gaming without some serious endurance training first.

  11. Lame says:

    Obviously fake. Unless hackaday is trying to troll us now

  12. Interesting take on a problem, but it strikes me as a really bad idea…

  13. CutThroughStuffGuy says:

    This is clearly so fake it’s amazing people think otherwise.

  14. Erik Johnson says:

    Hooray for early-onset cataracts!

  15. acacia says:

    Wow, that looks painful

  16. neorazz says:

    for m/ankind sake i hope this is fake

  17. jimboa says:

    Imagine the eyelid muscles you can get with this! Iron man eyes!

  18. cknopp says:

    I think its real, and when they get it using speakers for virtual surround sound it will almost complete.

    I think these are going to be the “Cell Phones” of 2020. Possibly going further than this, and using Direct Sensory Input (DSI).

    Its gonna get crazy in our lifetimes!

  19. phishinphree says:

    this is obviously fake. why is it even posed here?

  20. zool says:

    *sigh* why is this on here

    it’s fake

  21. NatureTM says:

    Yeah, looks fake to me. I wish it wasn’t.

  22. arjan says:

    I could open a shutterglass, add a little HV transformer to the wires that normally power the LCD, stick these components (that are really the size of a penny) to my head and I’d be done. What I find funny is that he turns the 2 devices on with 2 separate remotes. A high pitch sound appears and disappears after a few seconds?!?! OH, haha! now I see! after he “turns the devices off” his eyelids keep blinking! how is that! I guess he is just a blinkmaster who bet he can set-up a hoax using 2 led throwies and adhesive tape. haha. He almost got me! Too bad he forgot to stop blinking after he turned the devices off…

  23. j_jwalrus says:

    because it was on engadget.

  24. Alex says:

    I’m sure that would get pretty painful after a few hours.

    Also, does that guy remind anyone else of General Zod?

  25. evaprototype says:

    He has an accent and speaking english he cant be fake.

  26. zing says:

    Hey, you’re 2 and a half months early for April Fool’s.

  27. cpdongolev says:

    a fun idea, if nothing else.

  28. arjan says:

    I keep thinking about it: I bet someone could make this kind of shutter-eyelids. I’m not so good with HV, the electrode must be on the eyelid-muscle and I guess you need another electrode for closing the eyelid, but I would call this “plausible”. Fake on the vid, but possible to do. Oh, the freq might need to be tuned down a “little” I can imagine flapping and flopping sounds if I tried to tie 60Hz to my eyelids. Or maybe .00001157407 Hz to make my eyelids close automatically every night when it’s time to go to sleep? Hmm… no…not for me. I should connect that version to my little son.

  29. Tokamak says:

    It is a viral campaign, not hack! -_-‘

  30. Justin says:

    “You have no glasses, so you can really enjoy the show!”

    Just like South Park’s “Well, it beats dealing with the airline companies!”

  31. Dino says:

    Given that this IS real, repeatedly doing this would almost certainly lead to damage to the eyelid muscles.
    No thanks. I can see in 3D already, and I don’t need it on my monitor.

  32. dmcbeing says:

    It was also on Gizmodo…

    As a concept it’s seems good but i hardly think its true for a few reasons:

    1:I dont think our eye lids can open and close at something near 25hz let alone 100hz which is considered the standard refresh rate noadays.

    2:Electricity has two poles and curent flows from one pole to the other.So for the eyelid to open and close the two poles should be on the sides of the eyes one on each side of the eye.

    3:Is there a single 8-DIP chip that can create electrical impulses enough to move an eyelid muscle from non existant batery , and hold together with gum?

    I doubt this is true, let alone when there is no documentation at all.

    Correction:I am certain this is fake.I hoppe HaD was joking.

  33. Ben says:

    It’s a joke guys. A deadpan joke. The guy is a special effects wizard in France.

  34. ohsofake says:

    I cant believe this is on here…

  35. CutThroughStuffGuy says:

    HAD is posting this as if it is completely legitimate when clearly it is not.

    The only reason it seems plausible is because it is possible to incite muscle contractions with electricity but seriously people? There are multiple levels of “totally hoax” written all over this. It’s am amusing video (arguably) but for HAD to post it with the tone and credibility as if they are presenting a fact does not reflect positively on the editors.

  36. ferdinand says:

    is this the russian version off 3d
    it looks or hy get a epeleptic atack or so
    this cant be good for you

  37. DarkFader says:

    I hope nobody takes this serious. There’s no question about it. I’d rather see a Nintendo-On II video.

  38. Matskat says:

    I never comment here but I MUST on this one.

    I’m SO surprised at all the youtube-esque “Fake!” posts…are we fucking CHILDREN HERE?

    How is is so hard to reason that with the right frequency of stimulation, that an electrode could not produce RAPID alternating blinking?

    For a bunch of hackers, I see WAY too many “This is fake!” comments.

    Hack-a-Day isn’t some fly by night site like “Break.com” or something – how is it so hard to believe that this is real?

    I certainly cannot blink THAT fast , alternating eyelids…has anyone here ever used electrodes to stimulate muscles? They can be set to VERY high rates of contraction…how is this so unbelievable?

    Just wait – 10 years from now all you guys are gonna be sitting in front of 100 inch AMOLED screens – with fucking electrodes taped to your faces, extolling the greatness of the tech – looking down your noses at the squares who still watch their 3DTVs with OMGZLOL!?! GLASSES?!?

    I’ll remember this as the day that the Break fans stumbled upon HAD….

  39. dudeguy says:

    I’ve screwed around with electric muscle stimulators before and I can verify that this idea is totally plausible. If you put it to your temple it will close your eyelid. I’ve done it before. All I wanna know is how the hell are those little things being powered? The muscle stimulators I’ve used were powered by a 9v battery. Even if this is a hoax, I’m sure that the idea could actually be pulled off for real.

  40. TheBadWolf says:

    Maybe it’ fake but it rises a good question:

    How about having that kind of switch just “cut” the feed of the optic nerve to the brain,no eyelid boosted muscle,no crazy blinking,just 3D from inside,would be cool.

  41. fluidic says:

    This video does a great job of demonstrating that most of our technology is already in the realm of magic for most people.

  42. Zibri says:

    Are you crazy to post this video without saying it’s a fake?
    The guy can’t even keep himself from laughing :D

    Come on!

  43. mrasmus says:

    It’s a clever video that way too many people are falling for.

    Putting aside *everything* wrong with the technology supposedly behind it, the simple impracticality of it, the wear is would presumably put on the eyelids, and all that jazz, there’s a simple, logical way that everyone should be able to spot the fake — his claim that there’s no reduction in brightness of his vision, as though there was nothing going on in the first place (not wearing anything in front of his eyes, all that jazz). There’s a reason why a TV screen gets dimmer when you look at it through shutter lenses — because only half the emitted light is getting to your eyes. That’s the point — half the light is for your right, and half is for your left; that’s the fundamental concept of stereoscopic 3D. Same is true for polarized lenses (“passive” glasses, like in the theatres) — they block the light polarized for the other eye. It seems dimmer because it *is* dimmer. The concept of blinking really fast, in time, if it were somehow to be made possible, is just going to block your entire vision half the time. While you might get a fluid picture (thanks to Persistence of Vision (POV), which HaD has featured products about *countless* times in the past), that doesn’t mean it’ll be just as bright. It’s just like dimming an LED by flickering it really fast — it may look solid if it goes fast enough, but if it’s off half the time, it’s not going to look as bright as when it’s on all the time.

    This is just a massively successful trolling, and I wish the entire internet were in on it… but instead, people just try to avoid thinking whenever possible. Come on, guys… just… come on. You’re giving me more of a headache than that guy would’ve had, were he actually blinking that fast.

  44. nodoctor says:

    Some studies of physiological side effects should be done IMO.
    Especially since I heard the guy in the picture was black and clean shaven before he turned on his contraption.

  45. adhs says:

    that guy is obviously confused by 3d bullshitting and his inability to talk to women…

    “reduces crowsfeet up to 15%”

    there you go ;)

  46. Hawaii00000 says:

    Absolutely no side effects!! *twitch* *spasm*

  47. Davo1111 says:

    Its not practical, but AWESOME proof of concept!

    Well done to the guy, very clever.

  48. haydn says:

    record a copy of his speech using a webcam.
    play it on a monitor in slow motion and copy the lip moments after the intro speech and wink a lot during the speech. Edit the audio and video to re sync, and and not to jitter your head too much (he was almost perfect by the way, hardly any jitter) post you results.

  49. strider_mt2k says:

    This is sooo…differently abled.

  50. Steve says:

    If you watch closely I think the video becomes more jerky when he “switches” on the eye electrodes. I am quite confident he is capable of pulling off this sort of visual effect.

    However I have seen exerciser thingys which are powered off a single button cell and these last for hours. I have also seen dog trainers which can produce ~30mm spark and will run off 2xAAAs (3V same as button cell) so I think the package size is plausible.

    I just don’t think without further documentation or proof that it is beleivable. If we see it at CES 2012 it would be cool to be proven wrong.

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