[Boris] wanted to help ease his sister’s seasonal affective disorder. The most common way to do it is with fairly expensive light boxes. [Boris] built one of his own instead. Now his sister can blast her sadness away with over 10,000 lumens of CFL happiness. This is pretty much the same method one would use to create a ring light for photography.
This is really, really great… only he should loose the foil interior and replace it with high gloss white paint.
I bought a Phillips light for like €140
Posted at 11:12 am on Dec 29th, 2008 by Bhima
I did this:
http://flickr.com/photos/miserlou/2267174393/
More lumens, less elegant.
His choice of bulbs is very poor for the application; I just wired up my wifes painting studio with sunlight spectrum fluorescent bulbs which are just as efficient and much better for treating SAD.
Posted at 11:37 am on Dec 29th, 2008 by K.
More like bulls**t defectiveness disorder.
Posted at 11:48 am on Dec 29th, 2008 by epicelite
I would suggest a diffuser and several different multispectrum bulbs.
I live the north east in an area known for heavy dense clounds. To help I use a fish tank with live aquatic plants. Using hacked “work shop” fluorescent strip lights with multipectrum bulbs. Once with high yellow peak, 2 with high red/blue, and one “standard”.
Posted at 12:04 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by Irons
If I were to build something similar, I would alternate red and blue spectrum bulbs. A frosted diffuser would be a nice touch, and as someone else suggested, white gloss paint. I know CFL’s don’t put out too much waste heat, but with the addition of a diffuser, a cooling fan would be in order.
Going the DIY route here could certainly save money, don’t try to DIY with the initial diagnosis of Seasonal Affective Disorder.
Posted at 12:38 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by Skitchin
I like the idea, but I think for it to work for me I’d need to put it on a timer or something. Knowing that I was doing it would sorta nullify the effect.
Posted at 12:48 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by robind
That is not over a thousand lumens. I grow alot of plants indoors… I know alot about lights, go with an hps to more directly emulate the sun. CFLs do work but you need way more and you need several different types to match the suns spectrum.
A diffusor will not work for CFLs because of the tiny lumen output.
Matte white paint is much better than tinfoil, as is mylar
Posted at 2:05 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by hockeytree
For Mike and epicelite: There is place in the world called “north”. In this place the days are rather short during the winter… today it got dark at 16:00. Some folks don’t get on well with that… particularly if they came from some place which is “south”. If you don’t get it, don’t sweat it… no one is telling you build one.
Anyone else… if you think that you get the “winter blues” or such… try light therapy! It’s not going to hurt anything and it may just make your winters much better.
Posted at 2:19 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by Bhima
that seems liek a good idea, if it was me i would probaly just replace the light in the room with a brighter one, or i would get a flood light from wickes insted of building a biger light.
Posted at 2:29 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by mark
these were the flood lights i ment btw: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=222896
however they will probaly use more power then your setup
Posted at 2:33 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by mark
hockeytree: How much for a QP?
I’m not sure how lumen intensity is measured when it comes to combining light sources – 10 1,000 lumen bulbs may or may not stack up to 10,000 lumen. I wonder what could be accomplished with LED’s?
Posted at 2:35 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by Skitchin
I use office lamp with colour paper.
It also applicable as Christmas lights.
http://picasaweb.google.com/sergey.silnov/lyNieD#
On the one hand, this looks to be a decent attempt at building a cheap lightbox.
However, it’s not in ANY way a hack or a project with anything interesting at all. It’s just a bunch of bulbs!!!
Posted at 3:27 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by TheKhakinator
Add some near-infrared high powered LEDS and you have 4x healing and 6x growth in plants all in one.
Posted at 4:40 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by SOOPERGOOMAN187
The people who believe in light therapy are the same people who buy headlight fluid.
It is called the placebo effect.
Posted at 5:11 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by epicelite
Just put a white image on a big CRT,
turn the brightness into maximum
and put the face on front of it.
Extra: Gamma rays to make your skin
pretty.
Now, seriously. I’m glad I live in a
place with good natural light all year.
That seems a good solution for the lack
of light. Nice.
Posted at 5:47 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by happypinguin
@ Skitchin , You are right, having 10 1,000lm lamps together will not yeild 10k lumens… Light works by the inverse sqaure law, meaning that if you measure the lumens at the middle of the unit, from 1 foot away, the lamp in the middle will appear the strongest, and even spaces between lamps of mere centimeters can diminsh luminous output quite a bit.. It’s all a bit hard for me to explain at 2.40am!
Personally I would cover the front of the box with frosted theatrical gel to make the light come from one source – it would soften the overall light and luminous hotspots would be eradicated.
Posted at 6:44 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by larrysanchez
@mike, Next you’ll be suggesting that we turn our lights on and off with switches, and cool our computers with regular fanned heatsinks.
Posted at 10:13 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by Wolf
skitchen well of course you mean a quarter pound of “Basil”…. its some pretty damn expensive basil, about 500 bucks… err haha
about the leds they need to be about an inch away (max) from the skin for any useful effect
Posted at 11:45 pm on Dec 29th, 2008 by hockeytree
It is not the strength of the light, but its color spectrum that counts. Solar spectrum lamps are quite expensive. So if this does not heva the desired effect, try to find the right lamps.
Posted at 2:54 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by swiitboard
@epicelite, why so offensive, when you obviously have no clue?
Posted at 3:20 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by ragnar
I used to be sceptical about the concept of winter depression and light treatment, but frankly if you are in a more vulnerable state you start to notice there is a huge shift, and that exposure to light does actually help your mood. (and that it’s too damn cold outside :)
To the cynics: have you ever seen a poorly illuminated place? Or lighted with bad fluorescent lighting? And didn’t you then say ‘damn this is depressing’?
Now if as is stated opening a curtain and being at the window at daytime is just as effective I’m willing to believe.
Lastly, even if it was a placebo, if it helps why not?
Posted at 4:48 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by Wwhat
Being a skeptic does not mean you shout “bullshit” at every thing you think sounds like bullshit. It involves actual critical thinking, and if some of you did that, you’d know that SAD is a well-documented, not well understood phenomenon.
I was under the impression, however, that full spectrum bulbs were needed to have any kind of efficacy.
Posted at 5:12 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by Matt
Beh. More homeopathic crap that has zero basis in science.
Plus, when is a bunch of lightbulbs in a cardboard box a hack? Can I throw a bunch of CD’s in a cardboard box and call it a new data storage system and get a article on hack a day??
It seems there’s more technical stuff going on over at ikeahacker compared to this place lately.
Posted at 5:13 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by fartface
I live in southern California and the only time I lay in the sun is in the winter. The warm sun on my skin on a cool day sure makes me feel better. I question the use of CFLs used on this project but if it works then that’s good enough.
Posted at 7:45 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by Larry
Hey guys, thanks for featuring my lightbox!
I naturally did some research before building it, and this is what I found:
*) Light therapy is effective against s.a.d., which has been proven in various studies, see for example http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11328240 and the references therein.
*) The colour of the light is actually not that important (humans are not plants), you just have to avoid UV light, or else you might give yourself skin cancer to replace your depression – or at least develop a weird tan in your face.
*) Recommended intensities are between 2500 to 10000 Lumens, I figured with 10 1500 Lumen light bulbs I should be on the safe side. The inverse square law does of course hold – you should sit as close as comfortably possible.
*) I actually considered having some kind of diffusor in front, but in the end decided against it. For one, it would mean a drop in luminance, and the box is meant as a medical device and not as a pretty lamp. furthermore, with an open box a I don’t have a problem with heat build-up, so no need for fans.
Posted at 8:01 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by Boris Legradic
My blind pal does just fine in the winter… bologna
Posted at 8:22 am on Dec 30th, 2008 by BlokefromOhio
Did this light therapy really works ?
Jules
http://www.openprox.info
Light therapy is NOT homeopathy. Not even close.
Do a little reading and educate yourself:
http://tinyurl.com/9uscmr
http://tinyurl.com/72fb7m
This page is particularly useful:
http://tinyurl.com/6ujsdx
These kinds of light boxes can be also used for treating rapid cycling bipolar disorder:
http://tinyurl.com/9j84rt
Also, Boris, the color of the light IS pretty important. It should be around 470nm for optimum effect. Fluorescent lamps have a peak around ~430nm, which is helpful provided the intensity is high enough. Blue LEDs are the best way to go, IMHO.
Posted at 11:06 pm on Dec 30th, 2008 by octelcogopod
The thing though is Matt that a cynic would know that much of the stuff that is ‘well established’ and ‘known’ is complete BS, science just isn’t as scientific and flawless as it should be, and whole groups of scientist support obvious nonsensical theories (which they sometimes not even acknowledge as being theories but herald as truths), either because they feel a psychological need or because it maximises financial gain or to fit in the group.
Also a cynic starts from a basis of ‘what I just heard is possibly not true and therefore probably nonsense’ then have the facts convince him/her.
Of course going around shouting and posting comments something is absolutely not true (without even researching) is a whole different kind of psychology.
Posted at 9:22 pm on Dec 31st, 2008 by Wwhat
Bullshit, I don’t have tiny invisible creatures inside me, making me sick. It was that old lady in the woods, she must be a witch! Burn her!
Its funny how people will comment negatively on things when they choose to ignore the facts. It is a fact that some people are genetically determined to favor mornings, others evenings. Sure, not getting enough sunlight can definitely mess with your internal regulation.
Remember, we’re not far removed from hunter-gatherer lives. Our bodies are designed to conserve energy during the winter (cause food was likely to be less plentiful) and be more active during summer. Where do you think it got its stimuli from? The amount of sunlight?
Posted at 3:56 pm on Jan 20th, 2009 by Andar
What you need are UVA bulbs including the visible spectrum. These are similar to those used in tanning booths. They do NOT produce (nor should you use bulbs that do) UVB. This link address, http://www.topbulb.com/find/prod_list.asp_Q_intSubCategory_E_796, shows a company offering bulbs that provide this. I have been going to the doctor for UV treatments 3x per week for over 9 years. It works.
LOU
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Or you could use this method to grow plants indoors…
Posted at 10:44 am on Dec 29th, 2008 by Jack