Nice!
anyone wanna make Ladyada’s scrambler?
;p
if so,keep me informed!
jordan2_delta@hotmail.com

Posted at 6:23 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by Jay

You mean the wave bubble? I would definately get in on that.

Posted at 7:02 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by Mike

Go Sparkfun. I support this motion, I’m trying to get some of my smaller projects off perfboard and looking cleaned up.

Posted at 7:51 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by tikimexican

yea, ive been meaning to make the wave bubble…just need time (lots of it) and money…

Posted at 7:54 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by sushi

I’d like to see one for the desulfator that was on here a while ago.

Posted at 8:17 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by shuttercat

I dont like wave bubble, it was designed by a woman and it shows, 3 IC power switches instead of 2 mechanical ones, usb, charging circuit, thers just too much gadgetery on the board

Posted at 9:18 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by rasz

btw BatchPCB guys decided to use ajax for everything, result is you cant link to designs, you cant use browser froward/back buttons, if you decide to open big image BACK button stops working and whole page is unusable – you have to reloadm it just sucks

as little as “$2.50 a sqin” + >$15 for shipping :D

Posted at 9:31 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by rasz

@ rasz

wow…you succesfully provided no real reason for not liking it.

Posted at 9:54 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by andres

The problem with BatchPCB is that their 4-Layer service takes forever! By the time you add everything up and include the extra time, do you really save all that much?

I’ve got a 4-layer board going to Advanced Circuits this week. If anyone is interested in sharing an order email me.

rob at incredilution dot com

Posted at 10:16 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by Rob

I haven’t used this service, but I did just order my first ever PCB i designed today, and i did order it from them. Wish me luck!
It’s an XBEE to RS-232 bridge i designed. I know sparkfun now carries one but they just started selling it and i was already designing mine so i figured I’d finish since I’d never done this before. I hope it works!
-Taylor

Posted at 10:41 pm on Mar 11th, 2009 by Taylor Alexander

Does anyone know something simular in Germany?

Posted at 1:52 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by sodoku

@ andres

try to show me a direct link to batchpcb page for “PSP Joystick Breakout”
what? you cant cos its all ajaxed? right

anyway if 4 layer boards take so much time they propably just order from China. How much did you pay? I was looking for something that could hold Cyclone 2 (484-pin) and lowest I could find was 120 Euro :(

Posted at 2:03 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by rasz

@ sodoku

you can try
http://www.eurocircuits.de/
funny thing is prices are Country dependent :/ its 20 Euro more expensive from Poland, heh

Posted at 2:07 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by rasz

@ rasz

Thanks for the fast answer, i will check that!

Posted at 2:25 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by sodoku

Does anyone know of someone like batchpcb in the UK? Great though they are, shipping over here would be a killer :-/

Posted at 3:59 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by si1entdave

@raz does not like batchpcb because he dont have 2 twenties to rub together.

I refuse to etch my own boards because it’s not worth it. if I can design a 2″ square board and get it for $35.00 ready to go. that is an order of magnitude cheaper than me etching and drilling it. the time I spend doing that if all tools and resources were free is twice that cost.

Only the really poor people who’s time is worth nothing etch their own boards anymore.

Or if you really really have to have that project done in 2 hours and your ADD or ADHD is kicking in hard.

Posted at 4:58 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by fartface

@fartface

WHAT, i’m etching my board and i doesn’t cost THIS MUCH, are you insane.

each time i want to each i need to consume 4€ of chemical (who can allow me to do 5 panel of 200×300mm)

wich is A LOT of sqin

and a 100×100mm raw panel is like 1-2€

is true, you’ll need an exposure unit, a driller, but it’s really worth it.

if i want to do a 2 sqin board, i will get it in less than one hour for less than 10€ (but i won’t do only one)

“poor people” but i agree on this, i’m a electronic student with no job =D

Posted at 6:02 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by sliders_alpha

@rasz

Can you please elaborate on your comment ” it was designed by a woman and it shows”. I mean, I happen to agree with you. It does show….it’s awesomeness could only have been designed by a woman.

We need more women in engineering, and attitudes like yours hurt the entire community, both men an women. Nice going.

Posted at 6:17 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by nonHater

@nonHater
thats what I meant, its too good for what it does. If you go to ladyada forum you will see a lot of ppl asking what can they not solder to make it simplier, and it turns out half of crap on pcb is not required to function :)

Posted at 6:36 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by rasz

first, yes, WTF is up with rasz comment? are you a Taliban woman hater or something? “it was designed by a woman” seriously, and that’s an issue? I hope you meant something else.

second, I print a lot of my own boards. $5 worth of chemical in an etching tank does me about 4x 8.5×11inch sheets. I get an 8.5×11 sheet for $1 here in canada.
if I use some surface mount parts then there’s less drilling. it’s simply not worth it for small jobs to spend $35 on a tiny pcb. that seems silly.

it’s only worth it for larger batch orders when producing something for sale. printing 100 boards yourself, now that seems silly!

in my opinion anyways.

I think people who complain about self printing perhaps never learned to do it well.
it has it’s uses.

Posted at 6:38 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by fyrebug

@si1entdave – BatchPCB shipping to EU is only a few dollars ($2.80 on my last order). They do hit you with a $10 setup fee, so it’s best if you can send a few designs at once (only one fee per order).

Posted at 6:41 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by Ian Lesnet

@rasz

OK, then you should have said “it has too many features which makes it difficult for someone with little – no experience like me to create.” or “I wish there was a simpler way to create one”

Then we could argue that point. But to say it is gender related is just plain stupid, and stupid people suck. Not dumb people, dumb people are just fine.

Good luck with your education and future employment…maybe you could send your resume to LadyAda? You might learn something…..even though she’s a woman! *gasp*!

Posted at 7:15 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by nonHater

@rasz

Wait a minute….

“thats what i meant, its too good for what it does.”

And somehow it came out as “it was designed by a woman and it shows”

Oh, OK, that makes sense.

Posted at 7:22 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by nonHater

@si1entdave – adding…my last order being the boards in the photo…

Posted at 7:35 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by Ian Lesnet

Not to downplay BatchPCB’s service. But have you looked at protoexpress.com You can get their no-touch boards (2 or 4 layer) for about the same price with a guaranteed turn time.

I have no relation to them other then being a 100+ board happy customer.

Posted at 7:58 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by AFuse

@nonHater

Say what you want. I wouldnt question the design if I didnt know how it works. It is overdesigned for what it is.

Posted at 8:18 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by rasz

oh sorry, i just assumed by your blatantly sexist comment that you weren’t educated. my bad.

if you are so familiar with how it works, design it better and share what you have learned. we would all appreciate it….even the ladies.

Posted at 9:58 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by nonHater

@rasz – when you say “I dont like wave bubble, it was designed by a woman and it shows” … you’re really just confirming what a lot of people think about the tech community, it’s too bad this entire discussion is now about your woman issues and not batchpcb.

but here’s a thought for you.. if you’re an expert, please post something you’ve made that’s even close to the wavebubble.

you won’t of course, you’ll continue to be some anonymous woman hating troll that keeps everyone from advancing and participation solely “male” on most sites.

you clearly did not read the site, if you don’t want charging via USB, great – you can remove it, or use AAA batteries… if you have a spectrum analyzer, great, you can remove the PLL. the modular design -was- the design. the point is that the PCB costs the same amount, if you look at product PCBs this is very common, but you know that since you’re obviously the smartest person here (and have testicles?).

disclosure, i helped test this project (wavebubble) have assembled them.

Posted at 10:01 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by pt

pt & nonhater-
“you’ll continue to be some anonymous woman hating troll that keeps everyone from advancing and participation solely “male” on most sites.”

And you’ll continue to be pulled reflexively into embarrassing arguments with the troll.

damn, you’re predictable and boring.

–

I’ve been very happy with batchpcb. If I order the boards first thing when i start a project, then by the time the other parts arive, the board shows up not long after.

So far, I haven’t seen any bad pours or shorts, which did surprise me. It’s not sleep-deprived Chinese child prison labor. And they can still do it and ship it across the ocean for less money than any american outfit i’ve seen.

Posted at 11:07 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by jimmys

@jimmys – unless someone starting telling these folks what they’re doing is wrong it’s unlikely to change. the only person here who should be embarrassed is @rasz

Posted at 11:33 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by pt

pt-
yeah, you’re doing a heckuva job there with rasz. he’s practically Helen Reddy now.

rasz-
It’s not clear if you’re looking for a scaled down version or just commenting on this one but I think there are some http://www.dealextreme.com jammers that are probably low parts – no frills.

Posted at 11:49 am on Mar 12th, 2009 by jimmys

@jimmys – i’m pretty happy most folks here are not willing to listen to someone like rasz, perhaps he’ll reconsider his point of view.

Posted at 12:12 pm on Mar 12th, 2009 by pt

Just to sidetrack the arguments here somewhat… Why would you want to build the wave-bubble?? Who here seriously feels the need to have a R/F or cellphone jammer?? I am sure this is a great bit of RF design, and you would learn a lot from the build – I am guessing the primary purpose of ladyada’s project was as an R&D/proof of concept – without real intention of actual use… I am all for people learning more about RF design and discovering the pitfalls of applying RF theory to physical projects – so design your own RF jammer if you must. Either way you are il-advised and quite possibly naive to actually use one…

Posted at 2:12 pm on Mar 12th, 2009 by geoff

@jimmys allowing rasz comments is almost as bad as saying them in my oppinion, trolling or not that sort of behavior should not be tolerated.

Posted at 2:26 pm on Mar 12th, 2009 by fyrebug

geoff: It sounds like what you are really trying to say is that no one should use a rf/cell-phone jammer.

We’ve had this argument about 1,000 times before. There are plenty of legitimate uses and plenty of non-legitimate ones. I would hope anyone that is intelligent enough to figure out how to build it, would use it appropriately.

But to pretend that ladyada thought no one would use the device as it was intended is a joke.

Posted at 10:42 am on Mar 13th, 2009 by jproach

@rasz: Did you want a link to the PSP breakout? http://www.batchpcb.com/index.php/Products/18877

(They now put product links directly on every design made public, and even before that, they have also given the links that allow you to share said pcb privately with friends. (the old way of allowing others to order what you designed.))

Posted at 4:13 am on Mar 14th, 2009 by CaitSith2

Im not sure that link was there when I was complaining

Posted at 4:47 am on Mar 14th, 2009 by rasz

I was wondering if anyone would post a bus pirate for easy ordering.

Posted at 1:49 pm on Mar 16th, 2009 by drbobbob