Open source logic analyzer

Hackaday alum [Ian Lesnet] has been working in cahoots with a dedicated team of developers to produce the OpenBench Logic Sniffer. This caseless logic analyzer can operate at 100MHz and sample 32 channels at once. Better yet, a digital oscilloscope add-on is in the works. The pre-order comes in at $45, that’s a lot of functionality for just a few greenbacks. We’ve embedded a demo video after the break that details installing and using this device under Ubuntu.

[Thanks Drone via Dangerous Prototypes]

Comments

  1. Alpha says:

    this looks badass

  2. ehrichweiss says:

    I definitely want to see an update when the oscilloscope option is made available!!

  3. ReKlipz says:

    Excellent hardware!
    I was about to preorder this, however, I noticed the software requires a JRE. Why!!?!?!?!?

  4. Rizla++ says:

    Seems like the software GUI is made in Java. Nice idea, makes the GUI portable easily :)

  5. rob says:

    Very nice. A case would be good. What are ‘greenbacks’ and can you drink them?

  6. econut says:

    Why is it required that all *nix user interfaces look like raw sewage?

  7. Austin says:

    @rob well greenbacks are another name for the American dollar, because well there green and I forget the history of where it came from

  8. Adam says:

    If anyone has experience with SUMP, I’d love to hear feedback — the hardware looks good, but the software is important.

  9. Leviathan says:

    Looks cool. Can’t tell from their site if the probes are included or where they can be procured economically.

  10. MusashiAharon says:

    I. Want. I wonder if my skills are up to soldering the whole thing by hand.

    Can’t wait for the oscilloscope!

  11. andrew says:

    Now I feel stupid for buying a Saleae Logic…

  12. metRo_ says:

    The order is a fully assembled board, right?

  13. richard says:

    I too feel extra dumb buying the saleae logic….although its a great company

  14. Alex says:

    Go back to instructables, Richard Nibbler.

    I’ll probably be preordering one of these soon. :)

  15. Max says:

    wow that looks awesome

  16. Chris says:

    Looks great for the price. Unfortunate that this device and the Bus Pirate seem to not have proper mounting holes in the PCB, though. Would be nice to make an enclosure for a more permanent benchtop environment, but it doesn’t seem plausible. I hope the open source nature of this project encourages a better user interface. There’s really no excuse for a UI to not fit an 800×600 pixel display. The window isn’t even resizable?

  17. charliex says:

    It’s open source for a reason. don’t like it, fix it. I’ve been using the sump for a while, it works really well.

  18. richard says:

    i doubt i would need an analyzer for anything on instructables but thanks

  19. Phazmatis says:

    The hardware appears to be very good, but I’ll wait for a better UI. Also, whenever I see a project being demoed in linux, I assume that the windows version isn’t well supported (if at all).

  20. Drone says:

    RedKlipz, If you take the time to read the article, there’s a pre-compiled binary version of the java application for Windows (only). Java was used to easily allow cross-platform compatibility.

  21. Jack Gassett says:

    Just wanted to answer a couple of the questions.

    The Sump Java client is actually very usable, it is possible to download it from the project page and check it out. It’s also open source so anything you don’t like can be changed.

    The command line is only required in Linux.:) The windows download has an included JRE and all that needs to be done is double click on an executable.

    The video is just a demo to show that the client works under linux. I personally run it in Windows when I’m debugging something. The UI is not buggy, rather I made a silly mistake by recording a screencast at such a low, 800×600, resolution to make it easier to view in embedded webpages. The main window is resizable but the window that I had opened to set the capture options was a child window that was not resizable. On displays 1024×768 and larger the child window easily fits but in 800×600 it was too big. I don’t think many people run 800×600 any more so it has probably never been considered a bug. Anyway, it is open source so it is easily fixed.

    Probes are not included, Ian is working with Seeed Studio to make the probes available for purchase.

    No soldering skills are required, $45 is for an assembled board.

    Jack Gassett
    Gadget Factory

  22. shbazjinkens says:

    You can get cheap clips at dealextreme.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7218

    The lead time sucks, but they’re very inexpensive.

  23. sigtermer says:

    I was one of those people still waiting for Saleae to support linux. looks like something far more superior has finally come along.
    supporting linux from the start is always a smart choice.

    Despite relying on a jre. if id does what is advertised, I’m in.

    now for the good stuff:
    econut: psst! it’s java buddy. not linux.
    Richard Nibbler: sour grapes, ay richy?

  24. Morten Larsen says:

    This looks nice. I would love to see some videos with some captures.

    Also about the window size issue: You can drag any part of any window with the mouse by holding down “Alt” in X11 (works on all Unix-like systems).

  25. Richard Nibbler says:

    @sigtermer – no sour grapes here. But it shouldn’t take 5 mins to install software. I get paid to make things -not mess around on *nix all day.

    And the name is Dick Nibbler to you.

    Richard Nibbler.

  26. slincolne says:

    The other thing worth noting is the gadget it’s connected to – Ian’s ‘USB Infrared Toy’. It’s also up on Seedstudio as a preorder and looks like a great kit for investigating IR controls with little effort.

    I don’t know which to buy first !

  27. xorpunk says:

    This is a nice project, but too bad it doesn’t support 99% of reversing scenarios without custom made circuits.

  28. vonskippy says:

    You guys need to work ALOT more on your “demo” skills. The video was 4:51 and showed (or should I say “demo’d”) your product working for about 6 seconds.

    No one cares about the CLI install. I’m assuming the files come with a readme or install file?

    How about a video of your board actually doing something?

  29. slincolne says:

    Caved in – bought the IR toy. The analyser would be great if the board was a bit more case friendly (double-sided sticky tape is a bit naff), but its a better buy than the Salae logic device.

    Now if Salae’s version could be used from within Linux, perhaps with it’s own Sump interface, that would be great. I do all my hardware work in Linux so I’ve no interest in Windows and Ian’s work is a great fit for me.

    Ian – if you ever do a version that has mounting holes andpin headers so that buttons could be mounted on a case that would be great !!!!!

  30. ReKlipz says:

    Drone:
    The need for cross-platform compatibility as an excuse for writing the client in Java is a poor one, in my opinion.

    I’m considering writing a cross-platform client in C++ for this device; it’s awesome hardware and definitely worth it! Is the communications protocol documented anywhere besides the Java src?

  31. Ian says:

    @ReKlipz – The protocol is documented here: http://www.sump.org/projects/analyzer/protocol/

    A compiled client would be great, I’m not a huge fan of frameworks. Jack and I are hardware guys so that part was fun, but a x-platform client is beyond my skill set.

  32. anon says:

    And to think i was going to dish $150 for salae.

    Really starting to like DangerousPrototypes stuff.

  33. darkore says:

    @Richard Nimbler: congrats, you won the n00b of the day award (in case you’re wondering: yes, you should feel offended by this). Then again, extremely cool projects like this are better left alone by “hardcore users” like you.
    Very, very nice project. Can’t wait for the oscilloscope part. Keep up the good work.

  34. xorpunk says:

    Fore low bandwidth debugging and reversing you can’t beat 50 bucks. I like the orange PCB mask.

  35. renehug says:

    I think it is just awesome!

  36. Richard (not Nibbler!) says:

    I can see this has a lot of potential for reversing stuff, and hardware peeps like me will find Java a lot easier to fiddle with than C++

    Once the oscilloscope bit arrives I can see me casing the two together and using the combination quite a bit.

    Thanks for the hard work guys. :-)

  37. r says:

    Why does it seem like 80% of commenters are whiners? of course now I am one of them

  38. M4CGYV3R says:

    Do want.

  39. janin says:

    Wow very nice product. To get the same specs in a commercial product you’d probably need to pay 5x more. And if there is the same kind of support than with the bus pirate, that’s a winner. I vote for mounting holes too. It doesn’t increase board size that much.

    I don’t get something however, you say that there are 32 channels, but the header has only 16 pins (+2 GND) ?

    I agree that the demo video is extremely bad. I believe it actually deters people from using the product. You need to demo the actual capture software, the installation procedure can be described in a 1 page text file. And choose a resolution which does not make the software appear defective …

    @ReKlipz: what’s wrong with a Java client ? I mean, really who hasn’t a JRE installed these days. If you’ve got motivation you should use it to improve the software, not to make a fork for ideological reasons.

  40. Stew says:

    Just pre-ordered mine. As a bonus it can also be used as a FPGA dev board.

  41. neil says:

    just ordered mine. had a 10% off coupon laying around, so i got mine for $40.78. can’t wait to try this bad boy out!

  42. Phil Fitzgerald says:

    Poor video, certainly doesnt leave me begging for one, but its a nice product at a nice price. The sales video should have shown some usage, not how to install it, if anyone has trouble installing it, they probably shouldnt be buying one.

    I like the idea of the JRE frontend but would certainly need to see it in action before throwing down the readies.

  43. xorpunk says:

    My only complaint is if they were going to do it open anyway and just charge for assemblies why not at least spend extra time to make it handle modern bus RF? You can actually do most of this stuff with a cheap proto board.

    I gave a positive comment above because it is good for debugging and reversing low power circuits. I just don’t get why they water it down, hell you can still manufacture a higher RF capable ones for tens more.

  44. ReKlipz says:

    @janin
    The thing that is wrong with a Java client is that it requires a JRE. The compiled Java for Windows is a nice touch though.

    The answer to your next question ought be obvious.

    And finally, I think diverging from Java would be a vast improvement for the client, but these are just my opinions.

  45. Spazed says:

    @ReKlipz
    If you want some help on a C++ client I will at least be able to help test it out under all three platforms and help debug.

  46. George says:

    Bought an Saleae Logic a few months back. It’s nice and everything but the client for Linux is in beta and is unfinished.

    This is cheap and more importantly for me it’s 5v tolerant.

  47. Rizla++ says:

    Does anyone know what kind of LookAndFeel the windows client uses?

    @econut
    I also hate the nix java gui, but I guess it will be pretty easy to switch it to GTK+ look, or the even cooler Nimbus look! ;)

    I’m already praying on the arrival of the oscilloscope! :D

  48. osgeld says:

    I dunno, its cheap but how much are the probes going to cost? that is going to be at least half the cost of the board

    no mounting holes, ok yea it looks slick but I have a small cluttered desk, want me to buy 45$ worth of stuff to accidentally blob some solder or short it out, cant add some holes in the corners so we can mount it in a box to protect it

    and then there is this on the website

    “This open source hardware and software is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. If you can’t accept this risk, please do not buy this hardware.”

    for a particular purpose? its a darn LA how many purposes does it have

    I think I will pass on this one for now until we can get some real …

    a) cost with probes
    b) way to protect it
    c) know its going to do what is advertised

  49. chango says:

    @osgeld

    The input is a .1″ single row header. If you don’t already have something in your junk box to hook that to your target then this isn’t for you.

  50. osgeld says:

    what about the clips smartass, they cost 16 bucks for a pack of 10 at reputable shops

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