that’s crazy awesome, but soon all modding will be done wireless-ly.

Not sure I believe this one yet. Even if it is true, that kind of sucks… I wanted my Other OS back not the ability to put 1 or 2 games on my hard drive.

*Sony

I’d like to get hold of one of these USB devices and see what it actually is. I’m not really willing to sink 160 bucks on it though. At that price I could just buy the games I want anyway!

Fuck Sony they deserved this for removing other os for “security reasons” I hope they loose the six court cases that are against them for removing it and loose even more money.

Hey, I drive past that shop all the time. Maybe I should pop in and take a look?

@KayDat
DO EET NOW!

wait 2 weeks for a chinese clone of the dongle to come out for $30 if you don’t want to drop that much coin.

This is legit and confirmed by various sources that tested the device, in reality is a clone of the USB that is used to put the machine in developer or sat mode that enables it to run unsigned applications.

@ word its not a usb memory stick, its custom hardware. there charging so much for it cause they know its guna be cloned 2 days after the release so there guna try to make as much money as they can.

off topic from our conversation but i found this funny
PS3 Firmware (v3.42) Update
The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on August 19, 2010 (JST), and will disable the USB ports that are available on all PS3 systems, launched in November 2006. Due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.42 system software update.
In addition, disabling the USB ports will help ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system.
Consumers and organizations that currently use the USB ports can choose not to upgrade their PS3 systems, although the following features will no longer be available;
* Ability to sign in to PlayStation Network and use network features that require signing in to PlayStation Network, such as online features of PS3 games and chat
* Playback of PS3 software titles or Blu-ray Disc videos that require PS3 system software version 3.42 or later
* Playback of copyright-protected videos that are stored on a media server (when DTCP-IP is enabled under Settings)
* Use of new features and improvements that are available on PS3 system software 3.42 or later
Additional information about PS3 firmware updates, including v3.42 (once it becomes available), can be found here: http://us.playstation.com/support/systemupdates/ps3/index.htm

@mick figures… i wish half the planet had the sense most of the readers here do to not buy hardware that is continually handicapped by the company you bought it from through ‘upgrades’. If that were the case maybe Sony, Apple, and the like would realize they can make more money bye just selling us cool hardware and letting us use it for whatever we want.

Quote from psx-scene: “We’ve heard from numerous sources that their PS Jailbreak clones will be hitting as early as next week. We’ll leave it up to you whether you want to take a chance on something like that. ”

Haha. I wonder what those will cost, $99.00? lol.

Sony pretty much screwed themselves when they removed other OS now every hacker out there has their number.

@mick good one hahah

People on engadget were saying that this only works on developer boxes, not consumer PS3s.

@andrew

Engadget is ran by morons. PS devs all in the scene have said this is real, and that it does work on retail consoles.

Flying my pirate flag high today; the next step is using this exploit to install modified firmware, effectively putting the ps3 on par with the psp in terms of ‘unauthorized’ code. Here’s to CFW asap.

It’s already been reversed. It uses SCE licensed dev dongle code left into debug and retail units. This will be dead in a matter of time which is why they block updates with it.

There is not exploit in it basically..

Keep ‘em coming. I say “F” FONY. I paid for “It only does everything” functionality and they have the nuts to take that away… You can’t stop the people, FONY.

@Java
Unless the universities you are talking about updated their PS3s to play online and chat with their friends, they are unaffected. I still run OtherOS because I haven’t updated, however I can not log on to PSN.

@Hitek146: If I got investors to give 10+ million for a project(cost for most commercial game titles now) I wouldn’t either. Studios don’t start making money till investors and a few other things are paid, plus server costs for multiplayer which are all on OC upsteams(very very expensive monthly).

This may sound anti-social, but I can’t afford the credentials to work at any of these companies. I have no problem seeing all these hardware and software DRM implementations getting destroyed. I could of done the PS3 where it’d take years of chip reversing with only firmware changes. This didn’t even take work, this dongle is based on a lightly modified SCE tool, 99% of the code is SCE API and even extracted blocks from dev kit binaries..

It doesn’t take brains to work in the IT industry, you think the fact all consoles are now defeated is sad, You can still rebuild SecuRom 7.42 with tools from SecuRom 7.3x(~3 years old), it’s the same VM and jump bridge xD. This is the most complex software only DRM in the world..literally, and x86 protector dongles aren’t any better.

“While I *do not* like closed systems, I understand that content developers will not develop or release content into a venue that has been compromised. A very unfortunate situation… : (”

@Hitek146 – 360 not already been hacked for over 3 years, your statement might have an ounce of truth. Fact is, it still has the highest attach rate of any of the next gen consoles. I certainly don’t condone piracy but if this takes off, Sony are going to be selling a whole bunch of consoles very quickly – that’s not a bad thing for them.

Dear Sony,

That’s what you get for taking Linux away from us.

Now die.

:-)

Anyone that works with USB knows that anything that uses it for communication is not secure. All it takes is about $20 in hardware and the proper software. You tap the usb data lines and record the traffic. Using winhex and windows to reverse engineer a dongle is not the way to get things like this down. This is why most companies have abandoned dongles. Anything that can be connected to an external interface is vulnerable.

Dongles are easy to secure. The host simply asks the dongle to sign a random number. The dongle then dose this (ideally with a one-time pad, but practically public key encryption is fine) and sends back the result. Eavesdropping or spoofing the communication doesn’t help. Theoretically you could physically read the key from inside the IC on the dongle, but it could be extremely hard in practice.

Dongles on the PC have been abandoned because it is trivial to patch the software to ignore the results of the check.

usb port*

I can understand the high price tag. They know it will just be cloned in a manner of weeks. Then their sales will plummet. They know a shitload of people will pay the high tag so they might as well make their money now before everyone copies it.

@xorpunk “I’m sure someone is going to try to say that just because nobody buys stuff doesn’t mean the seller is losing money. My response is you may want to go back to grade school and retake basic mathematics.” I would argue it’s more of an ethics question than mathematics. Just because you have the choice between getting something for free and paying for it the end result wont be the same for everyone. Is someone who pirates a product really going to buy it if that’s the /only/ way to get it? The modern 16-26 year old psyche (i would argue the group most likely to pirate) doesn’t pirate because it’s saving money, they pirate because it’s free. Get what i mean?

@Mike: lol I gotta agree, I’d bet money out of pocket they didn’t even use the feature. It’s like windows users who bash MS and propriatary source code and licenses on internet forums.

Sony was protecting their investors and license owners.

What logic is not buying a game from a game developer isn’t causing them to lose money(investments to be more technical)?

This dongle will hit a wall in coming months, it’s patchable via disk manufacturing because of the BRD ASIC. The people are getting screwed..

I modded my ps2, psp and didn’t have any problem with it. But after I got my ps3 i have been very satisfied with the games they have come out with and the free online (psn) play is amazing, they deserve the money they are getting. if you hate Sony now look out for what Xbox will do in their next installment.

@spyder_21:
“And for some stupid as modders to come a long and F**** it up for everyone else, because they want to be the first group out to prove it works, screws everyone in the long run.”

I think you misspelled F****[sic]. It should be f***, no?

@AllTheHaters:
I thought this was Hack-A-Day, not Hate-A-Day.

@Mike:
Sony screwed everyone over when they first advertised for several features, then decided to remove them.
A lot of people got angry and want to get back at Sony.

Where is the leap of logic that you don’t understand? No one is trying to reach the moral high ground. It’s revenge. I certainly wouldn’t feel sorry for Sony. Unfortunately, it will hurt Game studios more than Sony.

I think the modchip is completely worthless. Games would be to costly to back up, since they take up a massive amount of space. Games are cheap anyway.

sony has indeed taken the apple route and locked the ps3 down to a very closed ‘gaming computer.’ and for the same reason, they like their merchandise to look sleek, and efficient, they evidently know the profits they will make and will, like apple give in eventually.
and the ‘hackers’ behind the £2.50 dongle with some stolen developers software can fuck right off if they think they can get away with that pricing when i will probably be torrenting it for free next week :P

if this works i’ll finally buy a ps3, i back up all the games and put the discs away. and refuse to buy a disc based console that i can’t install a mod-chip in. i have too many games for my sega saturn that were all purchased new for around $100 AUD that don’t read anymore. i learnt that lesson the hardway

I dunno if you guys know this already but this hack has been ported to

* AT90USB162
* AT90USB646
* AT90USB647
* AT90USB1286
* AT90USB1287
* ATMEGA32U4
* Teensy ++

infomation here :
http://github.com/psgroove/psgroove
^this only allows homebrew
there is a patch that will make it allow backups…

This discussion will never stop: “Sony screwed everyone over when they first advertised for several features, then decided to remove them.”

I sold my 360 and purchased a PS3 exactly because of these advertised features, and hence believed it was a superior piece of kit.

If I had to sell you an iPhone, that had 3G functionality, then remove it, wouldn’t you be a little pissed, especially if that technology (dual booting/multiple OS’s in the PS3′s case) is an up and coming technology? Even the guys at the Apple store all dual boot Windows 7 on their laptops. Does this mean they want to pirate? I think they just want to play PC games on their laptop. Yes they could pirate, but Apple doesn’t prevent them from loading Windows 7 by locking it down or removing advertised features, do they?

So why should Sony remove a harmless feature, that has only had me sing their praises each and every time anyone asked me about it. My seriously cool piece of kit, has now just become a piece of kit, and at this rate, it won’t be long before some of us just upgrade our gaming PC and dump the PS3.

Also, most kit, 360 and PS3 have a shelf life, like 3 – 5 years before something new comes out. Why not learn from their mistakes, and ensure that their next piece of equipment doesn’t have the same flaws(exploits) and then offer the customer a choice once again, stating only the features that they have. (and not those they intent to remove).

Legally I think the consumer has a right to take their PS3 back, which I recall reading someone has already done successfully.

Only wish that some of the CEO’s from Sony would read this thread…

I’ve gotten the Playstation 3 private key. Was given to me through a mate. I don’t know if it actually works because I don’t have a Playstation 3 to test