If you’ve ever thought about launching a high-altitude balloon, there’s much to consider. One of the things is how do you stream video down so that you — and others — can enjoy the fruits of your labor? You’ll find advice on that and more in a recent post from [scd31]. You’ll at least enjoy the real-time video recorded from the launch that you can see below.
The video is encoded with a Raspberry Pi 4 using H264. The MPEG-TS stream feeds down using 70 cm ham radio gear. If you are interested in this sort of thing, software, including flight and ground code, is on the Internet. There is software for the Pi, an STM32, plus the packages you’ll need for the ground side.
We love high-altitude balloons here at Hackaday. San Francisco High Altitude Ballooning (SF-HAB) launched a pair during last year’s Supercon, which attendees were able to track online. We don’t suggest you try to put a crew onboard, but there’s a long and dangerous history of people who did.
Hmmm nothing at all about putting stuff at high altitudes from an aviation hazard standpoint.
Or being shot down.
If it makes you feel any better, these types of flights are regulated in the US. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-101/subpart-D/section-101.33
We had clearance from Moncton Airport (Canada) and Boston Airport (USA). We also have a pilot on the team who manages this.
In the same chapter, The FAA also has rules related to visibility and safety, including a requirement that your balloon/payload be radar reflective (14 CFR 101.37). *and* you are required to inform the relevant air traffic control facility about your balloon launch in great detail at least 6 hours in advance (14 CFR 101.39). As long as these folks are following all the rules, nobody in the sky is going to come near the thing.
I guess it’d be good for Hackaday to mention that, in case someone with no experience wants to try launching their own balloon, but I don’t begrudge the original author for not talking about safety in an article focusing on radio.
(and yes, I know these guys are in Canada, but I would imagine, or at least hope that the CAR has similar restrictions for unmanned free balloons)
Canadian regs:
Large Unoccupied Free Balloons
602.42 No person shall release an unoccupied free balloon having a gas-carrying capacity of more than 115 cubic feet (3.256 m3) except in accordance with an authorization issued by the Minister pursuant to section 602.44.
Stay under 115 cubic feet and you’re largely unregulated. Ham community recommends filing with NavCanada.
I assume the 115 cu feet limit applies at launch time and not at high altitudes where the balloon will have expanded greatly?
Occasionally I’ll see a NOTAM about high altitude balloon launches and even amateur rocket launches near my airport. They are coordinated with the FAA. I have also seen mylar birthday balloons floating around at 2500 feet (762 meters) but I don’t think those were planned launches.
Next project – camera stabilization?
And telemetry data as overlay ? Like GPS location, altitude, temperature …
We send telemetry down separately – overlaying it into the video would be a fairly inefficient way to get it to the ground. It would be possible to overlay it on the ground side though. Right now it gets displayed in a second window.
Traditionally, this was an application for Slow Scan Television (SSTV).
Robot-36, Martin M1, Scottie S1, PD-120 etc..
Then, a simple handheld radio will do.
APRS in AFSK will also work with that radio.
Sure, but then you don’t get real-time video or high definition images. Let’s push the hobby to what it can do instead of being eternally stuck in the past, haha!
@Joshua
Let’s see your balloon payload then. Or did you only come here to bash this project?
@shotgun moose Please send your complaints to commenter Steven D.
I merely replied to his comment. It’s not my fault if you can’t handle criticism that’s valid. 🤷♂️
Btw, personally, I wouldn’t have used such modern >sunshine technology< in first place, I guess. It would have had chosen a payload/transmission system that can handle rough conditions, no matter the age of the technology.
Hm. Maybe something less sophisticated and more analog, using FM or QAM.
Something that can handle loss of information, loss of signal strength, fading, doppler effect (not much of concern on a balloon, but still).
Speaking of, for testing on ground, I would try to install the payload on a car first and see how the signal reception would be affected by distance, speed and steering maneuvers. That way, different antennas, receivers, bandwidths et cetera can be tested before the grand finale.
Anyway, I would likely end up with choosing something more traditional, more "down to earth", which some subjects would certainly complain about that it's obsolete technology and that my kind is "stuck in the past". Which is ironic, because I'm perhaps younger than them. 🙂
> What exactly was accomplished/invented by those state-of-the-art hams here? What technology was made by the project members? What code was written?
You could have saved a lot of typing and just said “I didn’t read a bit of the writeup, but I’m going to shit on what I imagine it to be.”
Those who can, do. Those who can’t, shit on others who can.
“You could have saved a lot of typing and just said “I didn’t read a bit of the writeup, but I’m going to shit on what I imagine it to be.””
No, I’m not that vulgar. No idea why you English people can’t write a single sentence without using f*ck, sh*t and other gross words. Please keep them to yourself, please. You do the international community a favor.
Oh, and I did read the write up, sir.
It merely said “There is software for the Pi, an STM32, plus the packages you’ll need for the ground side.”
It didn’t say who the original author was, or if the team mates did write any of the code themselves. In the days of open-source software, copy&paste is commonplace.
There’s literally zero reason to be a jerk, but I guess this is the Internet and being a jerk is the only tiny bit of power since people have. You could have easily moved on instead of commenting just to be a bully. But I guess this is amateur radio related, so I wouldn’t expect anything less
I look forward to your future rant about how the hobby is dying.
> Oh, and I did read the write up, sir.
It merely said “There is software for the Pi, an STM32, plus the packages you’ll need for the ground side.”
>It didn’t say who the original author was, or if the team mates did write any of the code themselves. In the days of open-source software, copy&paste is commonplace.
Literally the first link in the HaD article goes to the original author’s website. Everything is there, if one just clicks the link and reads it.