USB HDD enclosure to DVD connector

posted Feb 2nd 2010 1:00pm by
filed under: tool hacks

This is a “why didn’t I think of that?” idea. [Alec] needed a way to connect an IDE DVD drive using USB. Rather than order a connector he pulled the circuit board out of an old USB hard drive enclosure and connected to his DVD drive. Bang, recognized and running.

This will prove extremely handy if you have a netbook without an optical drive. We’ve used Unetbootin to move Linux ISO images to a thumb drive in the past. In addition to getting around the lack of an optical drive, this saves burning the data to a piece of plastic. But, you should be able to use this with a Leopard retail DVD instead of a 16GB thumb drive for a Hackintosh conversion. That means you could install Leopard on a netbook without needing a Mac to transfer the disk image to your thumb drive first.



123 Responses to USB HDD enclosure to DVD connector

  • Volfram says:

    I actually have thought of this myself, and used it several times. I would recommend caution if you intend to boot from the drive, though. Some USB->IDE adapters can’t be seen by BIOS.

  • Alex says:

    We have a few bare USB IDE and SATA adapters kicking around the apartment here, they are indeed handy to have, if a bit fragile.

  • jeff-o says:

    I used to have an IDE-Firewire enclosure that I used in this way. First it was a CD burner, then an external hard drive, and now… Hmmm, now where did I put it?

  • Peter says:

    Wow, I don’t know why I didn’t think of that. Gonna have to try this since not having an optical drive can be a pain.

  • tim says:

    Yeah I do this myself when doing installations on my netbook which doesn’t have a optical drive. I always leave the DVD insitu in my pc too, makes the cabling a bit of a nuisance.

  • Juicy says:

    I also tried this with the boards from several enclosures I had at hand. However in my case the dvd drive was not recognized. I must have had bad luck :(

  • troll says:

    internet must have finally
    run out of hacks

  • osgeld says:

    yea this is not that new of an idea, I saw someone doing it in a shop years ago and I have been doing it so long I have no idea where my enclosures actually are (if i didn’t throw them away in the move)

    oh well, if you didn’t know you do now

  • Cybergibbons says:

    Isn’t that what USB->IDE boards are meant for? All but the oldest drives would work like this. What kind of “connector” would you order to do this?

  • Nonya-Biz says:

    looks alot better with a slimline CD/DVD.

    either a server 50pin slimline to 40 for fullsize adaptors, or a mac 50pin to 44 for 2.5 ide adaptors.

  • zigzagjoe says:

    Old news, but a handy trick to know.

    Interesting note: Some can use two devices.

    I have one somewhere that can deal with having a master and slave device… only downside is it would slow to a crawl if you used a device while the other was doing something.

  • tomas316 says:

    External cases are designed for this. That’s why they’re 5 1/4″ bays.

  • Edd says:

    I have thought of this before but I don’t have any sata cd drives and only sata connectors >.>

  • svofski says:

    I don’t understand this one at all. What connector and why it wouldn’t be recognized if it’s made for this specific purpose… O_o

  • aaron says:

    Been doin this old hack for a couple years now. Never thought of it as a hack tho… just did what I needed to do to get the job done.

  • marwat208 says:

    I’ve been using something like this for a while… makes burning stuff easy as well as recovering data from a dead pc.

    Unetbootin is easy to use though, so the need for a plug in burner isn’t as key. It does have issues at time with some distros… usually end up doing it manually with syslinux

  • Laslow says:

    I’ve got a couple of these lying around at home – a PATA one from a generic external drive that I pulled apart, and a SATA connector from a Lacie drive. Very handy indeed.

  • inurd says:

    I’ve been using this method for a while, as sad as I was to see my 1TB external drive fall of the shelve, made good use of it and installed osx86 – leopard soon snow leopard on my eeepc 1000h

  • Pierce Nichols says:

    I’ve done something very similar to this to recover a broken external HDD. I disassembled the drive, popped off the old USB/IDE bridge, and popped another one on. Worked a treat, and I recovered the data, then put the new bridge back in my toolbox for the next time.

  • bob says:

    Who the fuck do you think is reading hackaday? My grandpa?

  • Chaos says:

    I recently broke the windows install on my netbook and managed to save all my stuff by taking the hdd out, taking apart a portable external hdd i had, and putting my netbook hdd on the usb adaptor instead so i could take off my stuff, then simply installed Fedora with Unetbootin.

  • DeadlyFoez says:

    I have to do this all the time. This is hardly any type of hack.

    If you guys consider that a hack, how about this. Now use that stupid IDE to USB connector to connect up to an infected hard drive and load VM with many different virus scanners all on a different VM and scan with each to clear out the infection.

    Still not a hack, but more of a hack than the original topic.

  • osgeld says:

    well often times there is a led on these things, so you could wire it up to a arm9 and make it blink

    (you could do it with an arduino but then that would just bring the haters out)

  • itwork4me says:

    you probably didn’t think of it cuz you had 10 bucks to buy the one that did ide, sata and notebook sized ide. This isn’t a hack…this is just repurposed hardware…not changing a thing of how the usb connector works.

  • Odin84gk says:

    @itwork4me
    Re-purposed hardware IS a hack.

  • Drusso says:

    I don’t think this is a hack. Those adapters have an IDE connector, so does a cd-drive. It’s common sense really lol.

  • osgeld says:

    yea I am not sure about the hack status of this, but it is good information if one never thought of it

  • jimmys says:

    osgeld-
    don’t use poison ivy as toilet paper.

  • Tarantulas says:

    Long time reader, first time commenter… This is really iffy in terms of being a “hack.” Hooked up IDE CDROM to IDE converter hardly seems news worthy.

  • Evan says:

    I do this all the time, in fact if an external hard drive is the same price as an internal one of the same size, I’ll buy the external one and gut it for the converter. I don’t consider this a hack myself, but I’m not going to complain about bringing this option to people who hadn’t thought of it. btw I have an arduino and it blinks an led, what’s so bad about that?

  • Spork says:

    Wow. Maybe it is just because I work in the computer field, but I read this thinking it was painfully obvious. Like Drusso said, IDE (Parallel ATA) drives, whether CD ROM or Hard Disk, have always used the same connectors, what would make a hard drive any different than the CD drive?

  • tpulley says:

    that’s precisely what I did to load my legit copy of os x onto my netbook. Not having another mac around, there was simply no alternative to os x’s disk utils to make the thumbdrive method work. If one did have another mac, I think you can do it w/ at least an 8gig drive though, not a 16.

  • hack says:

    Well duuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh………

    Slow news day hackaday? Seriously now you call this a hack?

    Speaking of hacks….. I know a bunch….

  • Paul says:

    yup, painfully obvious :P

    I even documented it in my “gaming on the aspire one” video series on YT

  • osgeld says:

    “osgeld-
    don’t use poison ivy as toilet paper.”

    Oh GREAT now you tell me

  • Nick says:

    I have been doing this for years. very helpful with my old eee’s and my new aspire one. I sacrifice the optical drive for portability. Good tip for some people though.

  • Jac says:

    Like many others already said: I think a few people already thought about this…

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=usb+ide+adapter&x=0&y=0

    Oh well, I suppose if you want to ruin a perfectly good enclosure to make an external USB to IDE adapter…

    ===Jac

  • Nicholas says:

    Not really hintworthy.

    On a side note; some bridge interfaces may or may not work in this fashion. When a company configures they bridge chip sometimes they won’t have all the various IDE-ATA-ATAPI features enabled.

    Any number of companies sell usb and firewire bridges with the board in a small container that are specifically designed to plug into a bare hard drive or optical drive.

  • osgeld says:

    “I suppose if you want to ruin a perfectly good enclosure to make an external USB to IDE adapter…”

    depends, I know the last one I got was so cheap (10 bucks) and so poorly designed (you couldnt put a 3.5 inch drive in a box labeled 3.5 inches)that I didn’t care

  • Matt says:

    I’ve been doing this for years. Hell, I didn’t know it was good enough to make a post about. If I knew that, I would have done that when I first did it!

  • nadieenespecial says:

    Don’t know why did you guys posted this.
    First time I see a unworthy post in HackaDay… :(

  • HappyHax0r says:

    Once again, Hackaday serving up articles that make LED throwies look like a stroke of genius. *sigh*. *shakes his head*.

  • hn says:

    to give it hack-cred: the board I pulled from my 3.5″ external HDD (which worked perfectly with the SATA-DVD drive) actually has the ability to do eSATA, it looks like you just need to solder the connector (usually a through hole part, easy)

  • MushyBanana says:

    “OMG it works!” is not a legitimate hack.

  • tantris says:

    yep, that’s how my old laptop reads dvds.
    like nicholas said: not all chips used in external enclosures will necessarily work. some may only somehow work: ok for reading but watch for buffer underrun while burning.
    your dvd won’t fit in the old enclosure, but an old external scsi-case will do.

  • therian says:

    so there wasnt a single thought bothering you head why it called IDE to USB adapter?

  • nubie says:

    It would be cool if you could just add an IDE cable to an existing enclosure and use the CD as the secondary device :)

    On a side note, when will we get thumb drives that act like bootable CD drives? I hate burning CD’s for no reason.

    Even better if it was a SATA/USB thumb drive.

  • svofski says:

    @nubie: if you mean flash disks, they’re bootable since day one. Usually it would be some smallish linux distro. I used a thumb drive to bootstrap Debian on an embedded machine once.

  • aztraph says:

    lot’s of comments in here, probably because anyone who is even remotely into computers, has an ide,pata,sata adapter. they are cheap and more reliable. raise your hands if you have more than one. (raises hand)

  • Fry-kun says:

    Done this many times, both at home and at the office. I’m surprised that other people are surprised at this…

  • Awesomenesser says:

    I did that for my EEE PC 701, used it to install windows and other software easily.

  • arrangemonk says:

    i mean its ide, im using an old usb dvd drive connector as hot swap ide device and it works too

  • hacka says:

    Are you kidding me?

    Next can we post my hack where I plugged an optical drive into an IDE cable where a hard drive used to have been? Hint: that works too.

    Jesus hell.

  • octel says:

    Next on hackaday: how to connect a PC fan

  • vikki says:

    hey, i gots a 4 port KVM I HACKS GOOD

  • Decepticon says:

    Wow, why didn’t I think of this about 4 years ago….oh wait. My disassembled external enclosure has been used like this for some time now. Actually that’s how I image netbooks….among other uses.

  • Marty says:

    A chimpanzee stacking crates on top of one another to reach the banana tied to a string is more hack-worthy than this.

    :facepalm: x 1,000,000

  • nave.notnilc says:

    lol, I like how everybody posts a comment on things like this, but nobody says anything on really cool/complicated posts. and all of the comments after the third one are saying the same thing.

  • lurker says:

    Preaching to the choir, but this ain’t new…It’s only unknown because it’s so simple – nobody who’s tried it has reported it simply because they figure it’s been done before.

    …I personally prefer the ~$5 hong-kong special adapters, I’ve yet to have a compatibility issue with any of several brands. Then only issue I’ve encountered was with one particular DVD drive (all cd-rom drives that I’ve tested worked) that would be recognized at boot on a thinkpad, but then locked up and refused to read properly after several minutes…It worked fine when used “properly,” the converter just didn’t like it…

  • itwork4me says:

    @Odin84gk
    its not doing anything different that what it was intended to…therefore not repurposed…just disrobed and relocated.

    Go ahead guys keep adding comments to a post that apparently few find new and note-worthy.

    Hackaday should’ve at least reorder the feed so this doesn’t look like its the lastest and greatest hack found by the editors.

    I lifted the second lid on my toilet! Now I have a urinal WHAT A HACK!

  • Life2Death says:

    Been there done that. How is this not obvious?

  • Frogz says:

    done this and the opposite(usb cdrom enclosure with a hdd)
    got a few little usb to sata/ide/ide2.5 dongles for roughly $15 each, they are 1 of the most useful usb devices i own
    anyone know what i can do with 50 pin ide laptop cdroms?
    i have a external laptop burner that works fine but it cant burn dvds
    i also have a laptop dvd burner but it takes too much power for teh enclosure(i hate my cell phone, i cant type teh, it autocorrects it) to burn a dvd purely with usb power

  • Tim says:

    Are you serious? This is the most obvious thing ever.

  • cath0de says:

    whatever guys. read the post or don’t. i always find something interesting here everyday. every post can’t be groundbreaking. relax .

  • Curto says:

    Oldie but a goodie… I’ve done the reverse also, ripped a dvd burner out of it’s usb enclosure to put a hdd in temporarilly…

  • blah says:

    Why don’t you dumbasses just load your OS onto a flash drive, every linux distro can do it, windows 7 can do it, os x can do it. Optical drives are a think of the past.

  • hawkeye says:

    Yes I know, it’s not a hack. Merely trivial to make ends meet and I’ve been running this for years. BUT it doesn’t bring the writeup justice if there isn’t a link to it! So, here it is: http://ubermodder.com/usb-ide-hdd-to-cd-dvd-drive-conversio/

  • qn4 says:

    I’ve done exactly this on numerous occasions with an old 3.5″ HDD-to-USB adapter and a DVD burner. I never realized it was anything special, it just worked! I just balanced the drive on the open enclosure, sometimes swapping for a longer IDE cable and connecting a molex splitter (as an extender) because the included ones were quite short. The only problem I’ve come across seems to be related to overloading the power circuitry… mine enclosure uses a standard 12-volt input, and seems to convert that to 5 volts on-board (through a linear converter I think). I’m pretty sure I’ve nearly killed that chip by at this point, because it won’t work more than a few seconds unless I power the connected drive with an old ATX PSU. Burning DVDs does seem to eat more power than your everyday harddrive :P

  • jimmys says:

    cath0de-
    “whatever guys. read the post or don’t.”

    Quit yer whining. Read the comments or don’t.

  • Madmod says:

    WTF. Why don’t you have a post about how ta hack a donut by reheating it inthe microwave?

  • Will OBrien says:

    seriously? I think my soul just shriveled a little bit.

  • Haku says:

    Call that a real hack? there’s not even a single Arduino or blinking LED!

  • polobunny says:

    I’m not one to jump on the “not a hack” bandwagon but… really? Using an IDE to USB adapter to use… AN IDE ODD IN USB? :O!!! That is magic!

    I don’t even think this is clever or anything. If you think this is a hack because they repurposed a 3.5″ enclosure… man I’m hacking a damn lot while building computers. I’ve used a box once to sit my motherboard on for testing…

  • Nik says:

    I did this to load multiple OSs on a HP T5710 Thin Client. Great quick fix for a pc with no optical drive.

  • therian says:

    And now ripley believe it or not will announce the winner of 2010 for scoring highest in category “The most technology illiterate”. The medal goes toooo!… Mike !!! Lady and genteelness what a touching moment, look the tear of joy

  • therian says:

    By the way here is “why didn’t I think of that?” idea, you can use tobacco pipe to smoke weed! no more wasting time on rolling joints, just pick up pie at any grocery store

  • Ned Scott says:

    painfully obvious, not a hack, I want my money back, etc

  • Drone says:

    This is dumb HaD. Why did you post this? You can buy bare-board USB/IDE or SATA converters for next to nothing, no need to strip one out of a perfectly good HDD enclosure. Even baby “hackers” have done this.

  • dustin says:

    This is a neat little trick i have been doing for years. Please note that it doesn’t come without its small quirks. Cd burners don’t suffer from this as much, but dvd burners tend to stop burning sometimes, its not a problem with the drive, just that your trying to use somthing that was originally made for a hard drive. Also, sata versions are really weird if your connecting sata burner drives. The opposite of this, using an external ide cd/dvd burner board to hard drive, will only support up to so much in hard drive capacity (the limits of the ones i have came across is 160 gigs.) you can still use the drive, but only so much space. These are just things to be aware of so you don’t think your hardware is bad. it may happen to you, may not…but this lil trick has saved me many many times! i dont even run any internal dvd/cdrom/etc drives in my desktop anymore, usually i just boot off usb or plug one of these in if i need to burn a cd or somthing.

  • Nonya-Biz says:

    BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and my inbox kills me in a horrible glass shattered sheared metal sort of way.

  • Cm0n3y34 says:

    I’ve done this before in multiple combinations (IDE CDRW adapter to HDD, HDD adapter to DVD drive, etc) It rarley works with pre-assembled stuff from companies like HP or Dell. It worked the best with an enclosure I bought without an HDD inside.

  • JDOG2k1 says:

    i cleaned something other than glass with glass cleaner… can you post an article if i write it up?

    this is silly

  • soopergooman says:

    Ive been using my old external in the same way with my netbook, cdrom, dvd burners and bluray. heck I installed win7 on this thing with a psp….

  • smoker_dave says:

    “This will prove extremely handy if you have a netbook without an optical drive.”

    Are you f-king kidding me?

    I do have a netbook without an optical drive, and instead of ripping two perfectly good drives to pieces, I just went out and spend £20 on a USB DVDR/CDRW drive which is perfectly designed to fit in my netbook bag.

  • diego says:

    honestly, this is not worthy of being on hack a day.

  • hc says:

    This is not a hack. If you know the ATA standards, you’d see that ATA Packet Interface (ATAPI) is just the same as the IDE for hard drive.

  • Carl says:

    This really, really isn’t a hack. This is something I’ve been doing for years with laptops that have defective optical drives.

  • Karloptimux says:

    I use this with Wxripper to backup my xbox 360 games. Just unscrew the chassis and you can easily swap the movie dvd after finding the magic number. The only downside would be that it takes about 1min to make the drive stop spinning via usb. Other than that… its perfect. Even got a name for it: The ripbox.

  • bob says:

    Slow news day? Is there anyone who hasn’t done this ‘hack’ already?

  • Kiwisaft says:

    i’ve done this around hundred times with different adaptors… it works as well with sata-to-ide-ide-to-usb or somewhat. this is lame

    tomorrow: how to connect a usb mouse to ps/2 via usb-to-ps/2 adaptor

  • diogo says:

    hacking for dummies??

  • -_- says:

    Hack a day Fail …

  • tiuk says:

    I use two of these at work for data archiving.

  • wtf says:

    like the name of an mp3 encoder….
    lame…
    i think you’re getting more dude! wtf?! responses than a cheers, publishing very common (i might even say household grandma in the kitchen style) sense ususallly gets these kinds of replies..
    been there, done that (also with a crappy parallel interface ), like most of the posters here…

  • Chad says:

    Come on HAD any real computer hacker or geek has done this for years!!!

    i will have to say thank you for posting this — im sure that every day there is a computer geek hacker or nerd born that will need to know this info —

    we wont harp you too much!!!

    keep them rolling in

  • Jac says:

    @nubie:

    “On a side note, when will we get thumb drives that act like bootable CD drives? I hate burning CD’s for no reason. ”

    Also already done: Just get a U3 drive and put your own ISO on it with U3 Customizer. U3 sticks emulate a USB CD-ROM drive and a mass storage device.

    I use a U3 stick all the time to reinstall Windows XP on test computers: While many motherboards have trouble booting from USB memory sticks, most will boot from the emulated CD-ROM. Also, while it’s impossible to install Windows from a USB CD-ROM if you use the XP ISO, it’s possible to boot WinPE or BartPE from CD-ROM and start the XP installer from there.

    Booting WinPE takes a minute or so depending on the motherboard, and installing XP Pro from a directory on the mass storage part of the U3 stick takes about 10 minutes with /makelocalsource. All you need to know is how to Google for “WAIK” and “winnt32 command line”.

    ===Jac

  • Ryan Hallarn says:

    I’ve been doing this in my dorm room for ages now. Everything from eSATA to SATA, IDE/USB to IDE dvd drives, and internal SATA to eSATA.

  • Nerds says:

    Grow up. They didn’t buy new hardware, they reused stuff, they DID IT THEMSELVES. Their hardware did not come out of the box like this, they had to hack it up.

    Nerds stop fronting and do something.

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