How-to: Make a Mains Crossover Cable

posted Apr 1st 2010 8:00am by
filed under: home hacks, how-to, repair hacks

Update: This How-To was written for April Fools’ Day. It is not advised  you attempt to make or even use this cable. The comments have made it very clear how dangerous to you and others using this cable can be. The image above is not of a full male-to-male cable, only the ground is connected, and the generator is not running.

We all know Ethernet has the crossover cable, cars have jumper cables, and RS232 has the null modem. Well, it is about time our wall sockets get their own crossover cable. This crossover cable is great for running power to a circuit disconnected from power. Maybe you are out of fuses, the breaker is broken or you just don’t want to go check the fuse box when there is a murderer about. This cable makes a great gift for even the most loathsome of acquaintances.

This an April Fools’ Day post. You should not do this!!!

Warning: These are Mains voltages and currents we are working with. If you do not know why you should not attempt this, you should not attempt this.

You will need:

  • 1 Extension cord.
  • 1 Male extension cord repair connector.
  • Tools to strip the extension cord, and attach the connector: Knife, wire strippers, and screwdriver.
  • Respect for mains voltages and currents.

If your extension cord has warning labels, read them.

Cut the extension cord to the desired length.

Strip about one inch (2.5cm) of the outer insulation from the part of the cord that has the male plug.

Strip about 3/8 inch (1cm) of each of the conductors. If there is a strip gauge, use it for a guide instead. Twist each of the stranded conductors to prevent fraying and possible shorts later.

Slide the shroud over the cord.

Screw the conductors into each of their respective terminals on the connector.

  • The Green or bare conductor goes to the ground conductor terminal. It often has a green screw.
  • The White conductor goes to the grounded conductor terminal. It often has a silver-colored screw.
  • The Black conductor goes to the ungrounded conductor terminal. It often has a gold-colored screw.

Use a multimeter to check continuity and make sure there are no shorts.

Slide the shroud up to the connector and fasten the two parts together.

Secure the cable clamp.

There you have it, a finished Mains crossover cable.

There you have it, a Mains crossover cable. How might you use this crossover cable?



388 Responses to How-to: Make a Mains Crossover Cable

  • tb says:

    this is criminal – never use something like this!!

    in my opinion the post should be deleted

  • Perry Vale says:

    This is one of the most dangerous things you could show. Someone will get killed with this. And never try to connect a running generator to the power lines as you show. At a minimum, you’ll burn up the generator, and possibly kill your self. The generator will be out of sync with the power line, and smoke and sparks will happen, and possibly other bad things. Bad idea to show people how to do this….And, yes, I am an electrical engineer……

    Perry Vale

  • Pedro says:

    Not as useless as you think.

    During a power cut, you flip your primary breaker (separating your house from the mains) and use one of these cables to connect your generator to all the sockets in your house.

    When your neighbours’ lights come back on, switch off the generator, unplug the cable and flip your breaker back on.

  • Odin84gk says:

    This isn’t that bad! Think about it. there is a power outage and you want to supply power to your entire kitchen. Turn off all of the circuit breakers, do this hack, and plug it into your kitchen outlet. BAM! everything on that circuit comes to life!

  • Doktor Jeep says:

    How about incorporating a GFCI into it? Do they have inline GFCs that can be added?

  • Perry Vale says:

    I agree with the other poster, delete this post. You could be sued if someone kills themselves. There is a hack limit, and when playing with mains power, you’ve crossed it.

    Perry Vale

  • Keiichi969 says:

    Well its not crimial, however, there are extreme dangers for doing this.

    You need to ensure that the mains breaker is thrown before using, as this system WILL backfeed power upstream to the power poles. This is a potential hazard for any lineman working on your service.

    A much safer alternative is having a licensed electrician install a secondary panel for your generator.

  • N0QBH says:

    This is the kind of stuff that give linemen nightmares. Hope your liability is paid up…

  • Koolguy007 says:

    This should be treated with respect, and don’t connect two circuits with power on them. Don’t plug one end into a circuit with power and leave the other end laying around. This can be used to connect a generator to a house easily, but make sure the main breaker is off just in case the power is restored while the generator is connected. Don’t turn on many appliances because your pulling an entire houses current through a wire meant to supply 2 or 3 heavy appliances at most. Ok, I’m done ranting for today.

  • Fred Thompson says:

    There is a disclaimer, quit crying you babies.

  • wtf guys says:

    Please, anyone who tries this deserves the Darwin award.

    Worst.

    Sh!t.

    Ever.

  • martin says:

    I don’t think we needed this post. People that need an step-by-step explanation for this hack shouldn’t use such a thing in the first place.

  • zzzaaaapppp says:

    I hate to say it, but this is a love-hate thing.
    Cheap, effective, and profitable for the undertaker and funeral homes :)(haha, yeah, sorry for the dry humor)

    I’m guilty of using one to flash an old generator, and back-feeding the 220 circuit during an outage, but with codes approved transfer switches only being around $100 for the low end I’m thinking of biting the bullet and installing one.

    Just remember, treat everything proper, and you won’t have any issues.

    And for gods sake don’t lick it…

  • Fred Thompson says:

    I bet you guys saying “get rid of this” love having signs that say “Danger Low Head Space” in areas with low ceilings.

  • gz says:

    I’ve done this (hurricanes, weeks without power) and it can’t be overstressed that making mistakes with something like this can kill you or others.

    Lots of power company employees have been injured / killed due to someone hooking something like this up and leaving all breakers in place. You’re far better off getting a load transfer switch in place before doing this.

    Hack safe.

  • Tom says:

    @Fred

    A few years ago, I’d agree with you 100%.

    However, since then, the reader base of this webpage (and subsequently, the articles) have gone rapidly downhill.

  • bencoder says:

    I just assumed it was an april fools joke…

  • winston says:

    There are actually commercial versions of this, but they all have a cutoff switch which gets installed at your power box. They then can only plug into a plug which to get access to you need to open a breaker disconnecting you from your mains..

    But as shown it is just a problem waiting to happen, and in many areas it is against the electric code and so illegal..

  • blink says:

    if the post wasn’t enough, the comments were. epic foolery HAD. well done.

  • tb says:

    @bencoder even if this is supposed to be an april fools joke, it is not only a very bad one – it is a deadly one.

    Even people who don’t need a HOWTO to build this cable shouldn’t do it because it is just to dangerous.

  • Tom says:

    @bencoder

    I don’t think that’s in doubt, I just think it’s in bad taste.

  • ez says:

    @all read the tags:
    tagged: Aprilfools, Dontdothis, Donttrythisathome, power, suicide, suicide plug

  • Pierce Nichols says:

    This is an amazingly fucking stupid thing to do, and in some places, it’s a crime. These things are colloquially known as suicide cables for a good reason. As others have noted, rigs like this have injured or killed utility workers when the main breaker was not shut off properly.

    When you get a generator for backup, get a proper load transfer switch with it.

  • willow says:

    Something not covered in the writeup is, this should not be used to support any major amperage/wattage because it bypasses the safeties (fuses) of the house by placing the fuses at extreme ends of the power conduit. Sure, there may be a fuse on the generator, but you’re using a heavy-gauge “crossover” cable to feed into “minor gauge” house wiring.

    Most house wiring won’t be heavier than 14ga, and to be putting (potentially) all of the house’s circuitry through a single 14ga wire to its power source, is very unwise. Even if it doesn’t cause a fire now, the wire could get hot enough to melt through the shielding and cause a problem down the road.

  • adam says:

    This is very useful.

    Why?

    If you make a cable like this and have a power outage, one can effectively power their house safely by using the mains crossover and removing their mains fuse, therefore preventing backfeed from the power company and keeping yourself and your property safe.

    But, the proper safety requirements must be held. If you don’t know already how to do this, you probably shouldn’t be doing it. This is useful information in case of a disaster, but with electrical currents, always assume something is live and deadly. Don’t chance it.

    Also to all of the people BAWWWING about how this should be taken down: STFU

  • fusionstein says:

    I have one of these – only mine plugs into a 220V, 40A outlet. Electricity coming out of your outlets isn’t magic – suck it up, pansies!

  • losthkr says:

    G’pa died this way. He was a line man working after a hurricane and someone left their breakers on and back fed a generator. he restored power and BOOM! toasted. It’s not to be done. period. If you need to run your entire kitchen then get a heavy duty power strip and some extensions to run only the bare essentials.

  • Degats says:

    This, my dear sirs, is known as a widowmaker. For good reason.

    Use with extreme caution.

  • webkraller says:

    hahaha, hackaday, april fools THEN SOME NOOB DIES.

  • Anon says:

    Yes, this is potentially dangerous, but you’d have to be a retard to not know how much this can hurt you.

  • Anon says:

    People who need a guide on how to this, or why it works shouldnt be doing it.

    Seemed pretty obvious how to so this. Similar concept to something i saw a few years back, Involved using what ammouted to a UPS, and a cord similar to the one posted above to remove a mains powered device from where it is plugged in to somewhere else (see steal it) without turning it off.

  • Phelps says:

    What a bunch of panty waists. You girls are really going to cry when the next post explains how to remove tree stumps with ANFO.

  • ClutchDude says:

    Hmmm….needs more sarcasm in the build process for folks to realize it’s a joke.

    Surely, if you are dumb enough to do this without realizing the consequences, you should be surrounded with bubble packing tape for our safety and yours.

  • “If you do not know why you should not attempt this, you should not attempt this.” I love this disclaimer. If you know why you shouldn’t do this hack, you won’t do it. If you don’t know why not to, the disclaimer says you shouldn’t!

    Happy Apr. 1, everyone! Stay safe.

    Jonathan.

  • kirov says:

    now this is trolling with style

  • Morgen says:

    First off, it’s tagged April Fools…they’re obviously joking.

    Second, this does work and can be done safely if you’re not an idiot. All you have to do is use your breakers to isolate the circuit you are powering. I have a cable similar to this with 220 volt plugs instead that we use when the power goes out. You just have to turn off the main so you don’t backfeed the lines and kill a linesman.

    I wonder how many of the people screaming bloody murder are also members of the Arduino crowd. ZOMG, it has more than 5 volts?! Kill it with fire!

  • Adam says:

    HAHA! awesome! I love april fools! its amazing how many people get worked up about it!
    Reminds me of the war of the worlds radio broadcast. lol

  • HomeFrying says:

    Oh so serious. It’s like we have a collection of product liability lawyer wannabes on here.
    @TOM – looks like you’re right. Quality of the readershipp has plummeted. Now it’s a bunch of namby-pamby serious sams pointing out the dangers of…God forbid…a HACK.

    Yep, there’s always a few idiots who’ll try it, and there’s always a few product liability lawyers who’ll “try” it as well. But in the end, if you’re this stupid and missed the date on the calendar, well, maybe you should check in your subscription and go back to engadget.

  • jeditalian says:

    what dangers? this is an excellent chew-toy!

  • JimXugle says:

    This is illegal and for good reason. Not only could you destroy your generator, kill yourself and loved ones, burn down your house, but you could also kill a lineman working on the downed lines.

    I’m all for free speech, and it’s the Author/Editor/Parent Company’s right to post this; but this is something that I would highly suggest removing from the site.

  • Sean says:

    Considering this, next years April 1st post will likely be an etherkiller.

    http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/

  • RBob says:

    If this is an April Fools Joke; very bad taste.

    If this is a serious post; you must be absolutely mad.

    Any half serious EE will / is telling you this is a seriously bad idea to post this. Anyone who is capable of making one of these already knows how to make one (and how to use it safely), and anyone who doesn’t definitely shouldn’t make one.

    This ‘hack’ will and does regularly kill linesmen, and very much has to potential to kill noobs who try it.

    It is criminal for you to be advocating such a half arsed bodge on this site.

    I usually like reading hackaday. Won’t be coming back if this is the absolute level around here now.

  • bemis says:

    This is a really irresponsible thing to put up on the site, it’s blatantly dangerous to not only yourself and your property, but also to people outside your home.

    First–this is an obvious hack to anyone who understands mains power

    Second–anyone who could NOT figure this out on their own is probably too stupid to safely use it and will end up killing themselves or someone working on the line outside.

    Putting aside the obvious fact that you’re back-feeding only one phase–meaning 1/2 of your single phase circuits and all of your two phase circuits will still be powerless–you should realize that these outlets are typically 15A, meaning about 1500-1800W max, even if they are 20A that’s only 2000-2400W.

    So at that level why not just run some cords around the house? Chances are good your generator creates more then 2000W of power anyway unless it’s really tiny, so to prevent fires, tripped breakers, etc, you’ll end up running multiple cords anyway.

  • bemis says:

    BTW, I agree–if this is an April Fool’s joke it’s in REALLY poor taste… sort of like waking up your wife to tell her the baby is dead…

  • Phelps says:

    This is illegal

    I seriously doubt it. It might be against the code, but that isn’t a crime. At least, not in a free state.

  • Brett says:

    I’ve actually made and _used_ one of these! I was moving out of my apartment, and the utility company shut off my power prematurely. I just whipped one of these together out of an old extension cord, and “borrowed” power from a hallway outlet for a short while. Just make sure that you don’t try to draw too many amps. IE, unplug your fridge if you have more than one other light on.

  • b says:

    What would actually happen if you plug this in on both end?

  • Ricardo says:

    I think even a child could tell you that this is pretty dangerous, you don’t really need a “how to” to connect two mains plugs onto a bit of flex.

    Saying this though I did something similar a few winters back when I was without power for a week after a JCB chomped through the main feeder for the estate I live in. I managed it safely and didn’t manage to injure myself.

    If you are stupid enough to kill/injure yourself maybe you are just proving to the rest of civilisation that your DNA isn’t required anymore….

  • RBob says:

    @Ricardo,

    It’s not just yourself that you put on the line. If some numbnuts connects this without isolating the Mains feed you will backfeed the main, possibly injuring or killing the poor sap who has come out to fix your power.

  • mikeymike says:

    its April 1st………..

  • RBob says:

    It’s still poor taste.

    And some moron who comes here later in the year and thinks this is great without spotting the date will wind up killing or injuring himself or some line monkey.

    I worked with those guys for a few years back and this happens far too much.

  • jeditalian says:

    another excellent extension cord mod is to cut off the female end, wrap one wire around the doorknob and the other wire to strategically placed metal. for barefoot situations, a floormat. other situations, something metal the hand will touch while the knob is turning. but if you put that second contact in the wrong spot, you gonna have some bodies to deal with.

  • jeditalian says:

    its not an april fools joke its population control.

  • fdsa says:

    you dont say shit about turning the mains breaker off before you use it.

    some d!ckhead is gonna get killed, nice april fools joke.

  • Tom says:

    Yeah, I’m BAWW’ing because it’s an absolute joke. An absolute joke that something as morbidly stupid as this can be made fun. April fools is about intelligent hacks, witty hacks, funny hacks.

    Yes it’s CLEAR (I hope it is?!) that this is an April fools ‘joke’ but it’s just a brute of a killing machine. In no way should this be made light of. A few years ago I would just be like.. yeah ok so they posted a really bad hack and it’s funny, roll on next years April fools.

    But I’m genuinely scared some of you FUCKING RETARDS would try this.

  • willow says:

    To those saying it’s “illegal”: You realize much of what’s posted here, hacking technology.. is also illegal.. right?

    I mean.. right?

  • Phelps says:

    Don’t worry, there are enough retards in the comments warning them not to, in their own retard language.

  • anon says:

    I guess no one looked at the calendar today.

  • pkt says:

    This reminds me that I made a 2 wire version of this when I was about 6 or so. Lucky to be alive.

  • steve says:

    1. It’s not illegal everywhere. We don’t all live where you live.

    2. The post specifically says not to do it. There’s no liability. Any jerk could google this and murder his family. Since when is information a bad thing?

  • fdsa says:

    lets post up instructions on how to make a pipe bomb out of household chemicals next, we can detonate it with an arduino over twitter.

  • Nonya says:

    they have had something like this for years…although it’s usualy connected to a mains disconect box.

  • Tim says:

    This is just an auxillary supply how do you think hospitals work when there is a power cut. Put a circuit breaker on it to switch when there is no power coming into your home with a multiple earth breaker just in case and a normal fuse.Then upgrade the cable to handle 20-30 amps and your done safe. I agree this thing would be damm dangerious if it got turned on with another supply, but lets be honest do we rely need those people who do that in this world?

  • This is not clever, a hack or funny.

    It could be dangerous though and I guess the herd might need culling, so have at it.

  • leccyboy says:

    THIS IS A DANGEROUS DEVICE!!

    1) Mains Voltage Can be Back Fed into the National Grid – and anyone who’s working on it!

    A solution to this would be to use a DPDT Generator isolator to switch from your mains supply to a generator as it does not allow both to be run at the same time.

    2) There are no circuit protection or electrical failsafe devices as you have now bypassed your fusebox/consumer unit.

    A solution to this would be to get a generator that has a Circuit Breaker/fuse AND a Residual Current Device at the generators outlet.

    3) You are supplying your ring main through a spur. This is dangerous because the flex will be rated to carry a certain current. Under BS 7671:2008 (British Standard Regulations) a 1.5mm2 conductor can carry a max of 20A and 2.5mm2 (the biggest size typically available of flexible cable) a max of 27A.

    This is more applicable to America but the UK too;

    In America as the supply is rated at 110V, the same wattage applicance will draw roughly twice the current than the UK at 230V.

    Im from the UK, and i don’t know what the regs are in the US, but there probably similar.

    Trust me. I’m an electrical engineer–I Know!!!

    Don’t feel too bad Devlin, too succeed we must first learn to fail. Think of this as a learning experience, and ENSURE that you always think about electrical safety.

    Remember, people are rarely affected by your acts, but always your ommisions!

  • RBob says:

    But again, its not just the moron who gets culled.
    It often is the Linesman who gets sent out to fix Joe Morons power who gets it.

    This happens with alarming regularity when some bright spark comes up with this idea himself, and doesn’t isolate the breakers.

    That is not amusing. That is not a joke.

  • Phelps says:

    Under BS 7671:2008 (British Standard Regulations)

    Stuff your regulations. We still live in a free country.

  • RBRat3 says:

    Wow this is great… This site posts tesla coils and people with diy’s to rail guns with big boxes full of caps. They all can kill you, same goes for this. you commenter’s are golden and yea thats sarcasm.

    Yes this does work but please take into consideration that everyone isnt as stupid as you and dont need to be warned or bitched at to have this taken down. quit being low-voltage pussies.

  • RBob says:

    @RBRat3 – Yeah, but the Tesla coils aren’t posted as an easy how to guide!

    Plus you wont find high power caps laying around most peoples garages.

    @Phelps – Free country to let someone else fry your ass whilst only doing your job! Right on! F- you buddy, I need my cool beers!

  • bbsux says:

    I always have an extra 15 amp breaker on the one side of my panel I want to power and use that to backfeed power into the panel after shutting off the main.

    This post IS DANGEROUS and at least should tell people to shut off the main.

    In my opinion it should be done at the power box (AND ONLY WHEN THE MAIN IS SHUT OFF) and not feeding who knows how many amps into a wall socket that rated for 15 amps (yeah I know some are more but in homes its usually 15)

  • Digital says:

    for all you naysayers, this is a simple case of use at your own discretion. I have done many similar things in my life. Simply flip the breaker before using this “hack” and you’ll have a room with power as stated earlier. Take no risks and get no rewards.

    just use some practical common sense (although I do believe it to be a dying breed) and you should still be alive tomorrow to try something just as dumb again.

  • fartface says:

    Wow Crappy design. at least throw in a inline box with a single breaker of fuse in there to make it somewhat safe.

    Hack-a-day Showing Noob’s how to kill themselves in new ways.

    Honestly, whoever wrote this up was a complete idiot.

  • leccyboy says:

    And what if you kill a repairman just so you could watch your favourite program.

    Its all too easy to forget. Better to ensure that it can’t happen in the first place.

  • S2H says:

    Hah that is funny. My dad did this once by accident after he cut our extension cable with a hedge trimmer. I zapped my hand with 120 Vac, didn’t hurt much but I could see how it might be dangerous (just heed the warning at the top of the article!)

  • Devin says:

    Haha holy hell, so much butthurt in these comments.

  • Bill Reid says:

    Funny joke, but poor taste. I love the fact that it encourages reading the safety labels before totally disregarding them.

    I have this set up at my house, but the right way. Critical circuits set up in a second fuse box with the AC Jack for the generator installed on the outside of the house near the covered porch, so the generator can vent properly.

  • EdgarJPublius says:

    In case it hasn’t been made clear enough already:

    THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA AND YOU SHOULDN’T DO IT!

    You could kill yourself, you could kill someone you love, you could kill others and you could burn your house down.

    I know it’s already been said a lot, and that this is an April fools joke, but seriously, it’s Mains power, I’ll screw around and do tons of dangerous shit, but one of the few things I /will/ respect every damn time is Mains Voltages and Currents.

    I’ve known enough people who have died from screwing around with this kind of stuff, and heard enough horror stories from people who do it for a living, that whenever I even /hear/ about this kind of thing, it gives me the creepin’ willies.

    To all those saying it isn’t illegal:
    While nominally true, it /is/ probably against code (and for good reason) and if some one dies because some idiot didn’t flip the main breaker or something equally retarded, then it WILL become a matter for a criminal court.

    for what it’s worth, I /HATE/ April Fools day, I dont even know why I turned my computer on today >:(

  • pookey says:

    It is very rare that I will ever dump on somebody else’s hack… I laud those who go forth and build, tinker, and experiment. If anything, I have mocked those who whine “that’s not a hack,” or “I could/did do it better.” I have poked fun at those who bitch about projects with arduinos and blinky LEDs. And, I have *never* advocated the removal of a post, as I am against the notion of censorship.

    Having said all that, this “hack” is so stupid and so dangerous that it *really* needs to be removed from this site. There is no fundamental difference between this post, and one that “instructs” a person to load a revolver and shoot it into the air. The author might “know what he’s doing,” but either way, sooner or later, either the operator, or worse, some innocent and unassociated party, will end up dead.

    The author may be a nice guy but this doesn’t change the fact that he is an ignorant fool. A FAR better article would have described how to install a transfer switch at the fuse box… something comparatively cheap and easy to do.

    I’ve said enough.

  • Phelps says:

    Sounds to me like we are talking about incompetent linemen. Who grabs a main without checking it for voltage first? “Durr, I flipped a switch, so let me just start grabbing stuff.” And he’s supposed to be the professional?

  • Rick says:

    This may not be as far fetched as it looks, This was published in Popular Mechanics some years ago.

    The biggest problem other than the MAIN MUST BE SHUT OFF is that most outlets in an older home are WORN OUT this causes a poor connection and HEAT. Heat causes burned wires and FIRE.
    After the ice storm in Northern NY a number of years ago, my partner and myself spent almost a year repairing burned walls and outlets from these being used.
    For a little over 50 bucks you can buy a plate that forces you to turn off the main while turning on your breaker for your generator.
    It is called a generator interlock kit.

    http://www.squared.com/us/applications/residential.nsf/LookupFiles/RetaiLinkDec2002small.pdf/$file/RetaiLinkDec2002small.pdf

    Have it done right. Call someone with some knowledge of the subject.

  • sneakypoo says:

    I have to echo the other “pansies” here. It would be one thing if it only endangered the moron that actually used it, but when it has a high possibility of injuring/killing outsiders it’s a bit too close to the line IMHO.

    You can do better than this HaD.

  • leccyboy says:

    Phelps what is the lineman checks for power and finds none, while he’s working on the cables you come along and start up your generator forgetting to switch off the breakers.

    Or lets say the lineman comes along and fins power on the grid that isn’t coming from the powerstation, how does he find where it is coming from??

  • john585 says:

    Death? Is that you posting bad ideas on hack-a-day? Trying to get people to accidentally kill themselves? And on April Fools?

    Oh Death- you crazy kid!

  • E says:

    See, when I read the title I was expecting a cable that swapped hot and neutral. Now that could make things fun…

  • blue says:

    Jeah, it’s April 1st, but this one is a really bad joke.
    I think here at HackaDay are enough clever people who could make a safer and cooler Crossover Cable.
    This one is really simple and easy to use, but it is quite deadly, too.
    So if you are so bored that you have to try this Howto out, a fail in assembly or usage maybe will bring some action in your life.

  • Alexander Rossie says:

    Most generators I know have one of these cables built in. Certainly in the middle east you get power from generators using something like this.

    So all he’s done was cut an extension cable open.

    NOT A HACK in anything but the most literal sense of the word!

  • Haku says:

    The outcries have already been done against this so no point joining in, however the real danger of making something like this and storing it with your generator is what if you have a power cut but you’re not there so someone else drags out the generator and sees the cable and thinks “oh that’s neat” and doesn’t know all the safety precautions involved with doing something so potentially dangerous.

  • John says:

    The title of this post made me laugh. Then I got really annoyed reading all the no humor net nannies getting their panties in a wad over this. PS The disclaimer was funny too.

  • Joe says:

    Years ago i made a similar cable and used an outdoor knife to strip the insulation. We were camping in italy and wanted to use a laptop to watch movies before going to sleep. But our old VW Bus had outdated connectons but was parked near a mains station. I knew it was wrong and did it anyway…

    Anyway: It is stupid, dangerous and i agree that this post should be deleted. A hack should not be something that can get you killed in many ways.

  • Pete says:

    I know a lot of people sell power from solar cells and wind generators back to the grid. I wonder what safeguards they use to switch off when necessary.

  • Dosbomber says:

    I hope a lot of people in my area build one of these…. because the roads are just too damn crowded already, you know what I mean?

    Population control indeed. :D

    j/k… duh

  • Robert says:

    Wow. For a bunch of hackers and people who enjoy experimenting, I am surprised by the amount of cry babying. This is a valid hack and has its place. Of course there are better ways. Of course it’s dangerous. If plugged into a house line that has not been disconnected from the circuit being powered up this way you will know it immediately as the genset power will go to ground. The chance of hurting a lineman is beyond the scope of this (lineman will have his tiny “Multi Tester” with him, wont he)?
    I am stunned by the lack of ingenuity some of you “hacker, experimenters” possess. Please be careful taking your bubble bath kids, you might drop that toaster…..

  • Hitek146 says:

    Kill, kill, kill??? I’ve been shocked by 110 Volts like 1000 times, and it was never more than an “ow”. And I climbed telephone poles for 8 years, and never met a lineman that didn’t wear high voltage insulated gloves when working on the mains. All you fellow EEs out there, you ever heard of Ohm’s Law? IE: 110 Volt divided by the resistance of your body from hand to toe = not-so-much current. Figure it out(accident by reflex, not withstanding)…

  • andrew says:

    it has some good uses, like using a generator when the power’s out, but the description’s disclaimer is not NEARLY long enough or detailed enough. someone could get really hurt trying to use this to do the wrong thing.

  • Buzzkill says:

    There is nothing wrong with this post. It is a methodology that is used often for temp emergency power. Is it the safest way to do it? Absolutely not. But it is cheap, and it works in a pinch. And just like anything else that has to do with mains voltage, if used correctly, is perfectly safe.

  • Phelps says:

    I was waiting for that one, too. My grandfather is a master electrician, and I’ve seen him have to grab 110 twice to tell if it is hot. “I think that might be live…” second grab “yup, that’s live.” (And then he keeps going)

    And he’s seen guys wiring up 3-phase 480 bare handed and hot. (They knew he was a lightweight and warned him not to touch it, though.)

  • leccyboy says:

    it only takes ~25mA to kill you know and in combo with 60Hz could be deadly.

    Anyway thats irrelevant its called health and safety. http://www.hse.gov.uk

  • Dosbomber says:

    @Pete:

    They use a special type of box that manages power both ways. When their [solar/water/wind/whatever] power generation system is producing more than the house needs, it allows power to flow to the grid, and the power company’s meter runs backward (or another meter runs, depending on the system). When the house is using more power, or it’s cloudy or for whatever reason the house power system isn’t producing enough, that box allows power to flow from the grid into the house.

  • Robert says:

    Roberts post nailed it……bubble bath….purrfect

  • Jason says:

    We did something like this back in 2004 in FL when the hurricanes bailed through. We turned off the main breaker and backfed our generator into the circuit panel to power some of our electric items (fridge, lights, fans). Couldn’t power AC though, pulled too much power. This works as long as you cut the main power coming in.

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