Listen to the amateur radio bands long enough, and you’ll likely come to the conclusion that hams never stop talking. Of course it only seems that way, and the duty cycle for a transmitter operating in one of the voice modes is likely to be pretty low. But digital modes can up the duty cycle and really stress the finals on a rig, so this field-expedient heat sink for a ham transceiver is a handy trick to keep in mind.
This hacklet comes by way of [Kevin Loughin (KB9RLW)], who is trying to use his “shack-in-a-box” Yaesu FT-817 for digital modes like PSK31. Digital modes essentially turn the transceiver into a low-baud modem and thus messages can take a long time to send. This poses a problem for the 5-watt FT-817, which was designed for portable operations and doesn’t have the cooling fans and heavy heatsinks that a big base station rig does. [Kevin] found that an old 486 CPU heatsink clamped to a lug on the rear panel added enough thermal mass to keep the finals much cooler, even with a four-minute dead key into a dummy load at the radio’s full 5-watt output.
You may scoff at the simplicity of this solution, and we’ll concede that it’s far from an epic hack. But sometimes it’s the simple fixes that it pays to keep in mind. However, if your project needs a little less seat-of-the-pants and a little more engineering, be sure to check out [Bil Herd]’s primer on thermal management.
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I wonder how well this would work if you do the software 10w FT-817 hack?(needs ext pwr, the batt-pack can’t hack the higher draw)
As a kid in the 80s and 90s I had always thought that it was the reflected wave doing electrical damage to the finals, turns out though it was just heat, so heatsinking is the magic to keep the smoke in.
It’s kinda both. If the reflected wave is perfectly 1:1 SWR, there’s very little extra power needed through the finals, so generally less heat produced. If the SWR is too high, your finals are going to be working overtime to kinda keep that standing wave “pumped”, so your useful output is less, or your finals are getting a lot hotter, or usually both.
Adding a heatsink to an overheating component. Who would have thought of that? What a hack! Sigh.
Adding a heatsink to a component in a manufactured device as part of a project to operate it outside its spec doing something it was never designed to do is not a hack per your definition? Fuck off.
See, also: “Overclocking. It’s not just for 286s anymore.”
And yet to the numerous people reading this who were unaware that this particular technique could be helpful to them, this is brand new information.
Don’t be such a know-it-all. Do you go into a 1st grade classroom and berate the teacher? “Reading. Who would have thought of that! Sigh.”
Grow up.
Are we also going to add “and he made an electrical connection to make the electric motor work”? Some people have never done it either. There is a fine line between a hack and a simple tutorial. This one is a tutorial. I agree with Chambo. If HAD lists these things as hacks then there is no point in HAD.
Dumb-simple fix, even without thermal paste I’m amazed it works great for him.
Indeed, it’s not something I would have believed word-of-mouth.
I’ve done experiments comparing thermal contact resistance with and w/o thermal paste. If the joined surfaces are clean, smooth and in firm physical contact there is little benefit in adding thermal paste, and too much paste can make things worse
couldnt you use a 5 watt amplifier to boost the output ?
Where’s the fun in that?
I used to play with RTTY and AMTOR when I was in college. I had a 400W tube amp, but that rating was for CW/SSB and I didn’t know it was supposed to be derated for full duty modes. I had those tubes glowing CHERRY red and finally they failed one day rather spectacularly with blue arcing and a nasty sizzling noise. I had to replace them all, and it was a bit of a chore, since tubes were already passeé and this was before the WWW.
OMG! A heatsink reduces the temperature of a hot device! Who would have thought?
You should never feed the 817 more then 10V, it will still deliver full output with a lot less heat.
Just saing, if someone still feeds it 14V from a powersupply
The 817 is designed for 13.8 volts but it will operate from 8 – 16 volts
It will accept 8-16V but anything under 9.6V and you will not get full output, anything above 10V will become heat.
Ignore the nay sayers, to many negative ingrates with
nothing in their lives to do but berate others, nice touch.
regards D
My personal respect to Dan Maloney,
If it helps to reduce the temperature, it doesn’t matter what safe and no damage approach you take. So, a proposal of using clamped heatsink is useful. I always keep the notebook PSU in a position with the label at the bottom, preventing the inside components not to heat the PCB and even use a small heatsink on top of the PSU, fixed with a rubber ring. Believe is or not, the heatsink does a good job.
As for the comments on voltage, the use of two 5V 10 000 mAh Power Banks connected in series are ideal for FT-817 (5W) and even for IC-703 (10 W). I have used it for mobile operation with a good outcome.
Regards
Serge M
my hack was machining a new top and bottom cover from magnesium with a laptop heat pipe behind the finals and going to the case. then i sprayed it orange and lost a bit of cooling. i still rarely use the 817 on more than 2w. its only an s point difference. for more power use an amp