interesting.. quite good mod

Posted at 11:35 am on Jan 23rd, 2006 by joel

“Very First PC”??
I doubt that as that is a big claim! I have an old ‘AT’ model at home. I thought that came before XT. Or how bout the first Mac. Or ATARI. I’ll stop now.

Ah well, Very nice by the way. I thought that the XT my aunt gave me was only good for Frameworks II (2).

Posted at 11:49 am on Jan 23rd, 2006 by Hal Hockersmith

OH THE SERVERS HURTING!!

That video is gonna kill is server so be nice and use the mirror.

http://www.oldskool.org.nyud.net:8090/pc/8088_Corruption

Posted at 11:53 am on Jan 23rd, 2006 by Hal Hockersmith

incredible! great demo, the scene is alive and tickin’.

Posted at 12:35 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by Unchain

hal — the AT came after the XT.

PC (8086) -> XT (8088) -> AT (80286)

Posted at 12:36 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by thenobot

hal hockersmith: The XT came first, which was the 8088. AT’s were 80286 machines, which came later.

Posted at 12:38 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by kedge

Hal:

The XT came before the AT. Macs were after the XT as well.

But your right that there were other “PCs” before the XT, like the Apple II, etc.

Posted at 12:40 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by IMWeasel

Hal, the last sentance of the summary is wrong. The PC in the video is the IBM 5150, the first in the line of “IBM PC Compatibles”, what the letters PC typically represent.

Posted at 12:42 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by cmonkey

Yeah, “very first PC” is a bit of a strech, but the IBM PC and IBM PC XT (both 8088 CPU) did indeed come before the IBM PC AT (80286 CPU).

Posted at 12:54 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by ed3

if they can do it on the amstrad CPC (http://arkos.cpcscene.com/), it’s not surprising it can be done on the xt…

shame the server is down, I want to see the vid!

Posted at 12:57 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by ihate56k

He claims to have “the original PC” and claims it is a model 5150 (which is the original). If that is the case he is still “cheating” quite a bit with many upgrades. The original 5150 didn’t have any hard drive. It didn’t have CGA graphics, it had monochrome text graphics only. It also had a single one sided floppy drive as storage, with something like 180k of space. And it had only 16kB of memory (not MB). And at that time Creative Labs and the Soundblaster card line wasn’t even a concept. PCs were content with just making beeping noises from their internal speakers for many years before “real” sound cards were invented.

Posted at 1:00 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by IMWeasel

your talking about the original pcs that had 16k and monochrome.. the xt had color and 64k .. thats what competed with the c64 for crying out loud! the only one still with 16k at that point was tandy

Posted at 2:21 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by markyb

That’s one of the coolest and most impressive hacks I’ve ever seen. If only there could be a downloadable video with a much higher resolution, I really want to see it at a decent quality. Maybe it’d be possible somehow to pipe the screen output straight into a tv card of a modern PC and record a screen capture that way? I don’t know how the screen gets rendered on that but it could well be similar to old tvs in which case stealing a signal shouldn’t be too hard.

Spanky

Posted at 2:34 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by spanky deluxe

Heh… I love the cat meows at the end.

Posted at 2:43 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by TheCheeta

Hmm Commodore 64 which i owned in 1982 did full motion video and audio striaght out of the box.

XT – 1983

Maybe one of the first IBM’s but not the first personal computer.

Posted at 3:15 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by tj

Video Google is down for this file :-(
Ay care to post a mirror o something better? (i.e. youtube.com)

Posted at 4:12 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by OlivierB

An exercise in displaying full-motion video on the first IBM PC….first IBM pc.

Posted at 4:25 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by orwell84

here’s a link…it’s what cacheout (the firefox extension) gave me.

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:Rc3y79GMvDwJ:www.oldskool.org/pc/8088_Corruption+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

hope it works for you

Posted at 5:23 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by [kj]

Markyb said “your talking about the original pcs that had 16k and monochrome.. the xt had color and 64k ..”

I believe you are right. Which means he doesn’t have the original model 5150 like it says on the page. The 5150 WAS the original with 16k and monochrome.

Posted at 6:01 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by IMWeasel

Actually its the other way round – he started the discussion with “could this be made to work on the Xt?” then went ahead and made it work on the even OLDEr 5150.

True, its a 5150 with a cga graphics card, soundblaster audio card and a hard drive added onto the stock configuration, but still at the heart is a 5150.

Posted at 6:46 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by smilr

I knew there was a reason I was keeping that Tandy 1000 in the closet!

BTW, Spinrite can be used to change the interleave of the HD, and if you have a fast enough controler and drive you can get to an interleave of 1:1

BTW #2… There was a Western Digital RLL controller that would take a Seagate MFM 20Mb drive 32Mb!

Posted at 9:16 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by The Steven

Ya but can he put porn on it? J/K

Posted at 9:55 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by gehang

If I recall, some of that video and possibly audio are lifted from “9 Fingers” by Spaceballs, an old amiga 500 demo. And that full motion video on the amiga ran from floppy disk! There was never anything quite like the amiga modding scene…
(nothing against the current demo scene, but some of that stuff on the amiga WAS the birth of “multimedia”)

Posted at 10:02 pm on Jan 23rd, 2006 by xorvious

xorvious: In 9 Fingers (and its predecessor State of the Art) it wasn’t actual full motion video, but converted into a precalculated vector animation “streamed” from the disks. Floppy-packed FMV did appear in A500 demos like 242 by Virtual Dreams though, in all its blocky fullscreen glory. :)

Posted at 7:01 am on Jan 24th, 2006 by break

That would be a big no on the video and audio being lifted from 9 fingers. Here’s the original 9 fingers, on video:

http://scene.org/file_dl.php?url=ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/mirrors/amidemos/9fingers.zip&id=211266

Among other things, 8088 Corruption has full-color and constant motion (9 fingers has to bow out to those chinese characters every once in a while to get back into sync).

The principles are the same, of course, Trixter never denied that. And there is no doubt that this would be harder to do years ago, than where he had to spend significant time ENCODING the video (that’s where the hard work is, writing that part of it) so that the PC can do it.

Posted at 12:23 pm on Jan 25th, 2006 by jason scott

Nice, but as others have mentioned it’s not really amazing. Using ‘ANSI’ style colored text as a low-rent graphics mode is hardly a breakthrough, and it’s not really a shock to get music from — ahem — a Soundblaster Pro. If this was an MDA instead of CGA display (perhaps taking advantage of an original green screen with the terribly slow phosphor decay rate…?), with PC speaker hacked sound (also not a huge feat, but would add more cred to this hack), I’d be a little less harsh.

It’s not awful or anything, mind you.

Posted at 8:08 pm on Jan 25th, 2006 by Fortyseven

one thing I don’t see is how he got the DMA sound working. I had a Comodore Colt 8088 and a sound blaster 2 .0 and spent ages trying to get it to work, but all I managed to get was the adlib synthesiser support, never managed to get PCM output/input running. Unless it was just the bath of cards I had or the drivers creative released at the time. I gave up in the end and upgraded to a 286 (386, 486…) and it worked fine in all of them.

Posted at 4:20 pm on Jan 28th, 2006 by 8088_4_ever