Hexacopter

posted Feb 15th 2010 11:35am by
filed under: robots hacks, toy hacks


Quad copters have been pretty popular for the last few years, but this one is new to us. Take the same basic layout, but bump it to 6 rotors. Then you’ll have the hexacopter (google translated). With 6 rotors, built in GPS and stabilization and a camera mounted on the bottom, this thing is pretty well equipped. You can see how agile and stable it is in the video above. We know it isn’t necessarily new, but it is new to us. Of course, you don’t have to stop at 6 rotors. You could always just continue on to 8.



68 Responses to Hexacopter

  • Mike Szczys says:

    Too bad it takes soooooooo long to get off the ground. Obviously with only six rotors it’s underpowered.

  • Goddard says:

    Bad ass! Where can I get one?

  • John says:

    just 8? Hell, why not take it all the way to eleven? Then add a bit more cowbell :-)

  • Phil says:

    To paraphrase an Onion article:

    Executives say, ‘F*%k it. We’re going with 6 blades’.

  • macpod says:

    It sounds like an angry swarm of bees!

    Very impressive, I guess the extra blades help it get so much lift (a full coke!).

  • mooneyj says:

    Scared the shit out of me when it first flew off.
    Wow!

  • Mike D. says:

    This is awesome! Question: what is the altitude resolution/accuracy of GPS?

  • tim says:

    Wow. For such a small copter, that’s a lot of weight it can carry! Very stable too. I wonder how long the battery lasts?

  • supershwa says:

    VERY impressive…I want!

  • vonskippy says:

    Another fine example of German engineering.

  • Joe says:

    I’m amazed how much this thing can pick up. It almost looks like you could make bigger and it might pick up a person. Imagine these things transporting soldiers in war. I bet one that scaled at 3ft could lift a person. all you would have to do is get it to hover then grab on and go. The noise would suck to listen to.

  • taylor says:

    “Of coarse”

    Oh god, the misspelling hurts. That one is so obvious!

    Cool copter though. I’ve got to built one of these!

    One thing I just realized is that is you assume you’re never going to reverse the motors (probably a safe assumption), the motor controller gets *way* simpler – just one MOSFET, instead of 4, per motor. Unless they’re brushless, but I haven’t seen many hobby brushless motor controllers. I have been thinking about building one actually…

    If i ever did make a good hobby brushless motor controller, would any of you be interested? Or does someone already make them?
    -Taylor

  • eric says:

    Forget transporting soldiers, mount a gun on it and it would be a really intimidating soldier.

  • an excellent thing. agile and fast. Congratulations man

  • CrazyIvanovich says:

    Nah, what you need is a higher res camera that can transmit back live video. Then you’ve got a light weight, VERY agile UAV. Or even a whole fleet of them.

  • 3:09

    Soon all mikrocopters will turn on its owners and slice their heads open!!

    @taylor
    I don’t know where you have been all these years, but 95% of all hobbyist multirotors are brushless, and I would say the vast majority of electric RCs are brushless also. maybe 5 years ago brushless was still expensive, but today you can pick up a motor and ESC for under $10.

    By the way, this looks like it is using a custom designed ESC from scratch – usually the mikrocopter guys reflash the mega8′s on store-bought ESCs for use with I2C. interesting

  • Mike D. says:

    Urban Aeronautics of Israel is developing an unmanned medevac/cargo VTOL aircraft according to Aviation Week. Looks like it uses fans for lift and propulsion. I would hate to wake up inside a pilotless craft on my way to the med center!

  • Gilliam says:

    when that thing goes haywire some pepsi-nazi( :P ) is gonna get a coke to the head!

  • Mike D. says:

    P.S. Caleb: Stay the coarse! You’re doing fine.

  • HappyFunTime says:

    my fucking god if you could put a water balloon on it with a release switch…

  • LuciusMare says:

    I personally really like that “come back” feature.

  • Stephen says:

    I want one.. Put some crazy LED’s on it, fly it at night, I could certainly convince at least one of my neighbors that aliens are invading..

  • ino says:

    Oh my god, I want this badly :)

  • Clay says:

    I can see this simplifying the lives of many..
    well, at least me.
    If you could pre-program GPS locations and a safe travel route, I would never leave the house. if one of my friends wanted something, I’d send this thing on its way.
    How much would one of these cost to make?
    or fix, if it broke?
    probably too much for me.
    the only thing that worries me, is the “hover” at about neck-level.. there should be a safeguard so it can only hover at, say, 7 feet.

  • Cubby says:

    I don’t know what’s happened to this website, but it’s taken a decidedly different direction. Not too sure how I like it yet, but the writers need to go back to high school and refresh their writing skills, especially when it comes to their spelling and grammar.

    It’s called, `spell check’. Try it, you’ll like it and we’ll all appreciate you all the more for it when you do. Until then, this website has gotten so sophomoric in its writing, it’s no longer fun to visit.

  • Matthew Restko says:

    Are there any non-German websites with more info about this thing? I tried Google but struck-out.

  • @Matthew Restko

    Some german guys hang around the RC Groups forums in the multirotor section, there is a big thread on the mikrocopters.

  • J says:

    i wonder what the battery life is like, and how much you could extend it by sacrificing that 1k (!) payload.

  • Colin says:

    Can anyone explain what the benefits of more than say 3 blades would be?

  • jimmys says:

    Colin-
    More blades means the same amount of air can be moved with fewer RPMs. It also reduces noise.

  • masterOFdesaster says:

    If you have more blades you have some kind of redundancy.
    if you, for example hit an object or there is an malfunction and the blades brake or the motor stops working, this thing is flyable. you can land it safely.

    As far as i know the altitude can be hold acurately be 20 mm with a air pressure sensor.

    Don’t know if you guys know what i mean. My english is not that good burt my german is ;)

    Greetings from Austria

  • Lucas says:

    sounds like a swarm of bees all playing wistles. very cool though

  • Haku says:

    Simply stunning!

    The stability & speed is amazing, with some sonar distance sensors added I’m guessing it would make it fairly crash-proof in an urban environment.

    I’ve wanted a decent four-blade coptor ever since I first saw them, but stuff that, now I want a six-bladed one! :D

  • Inventorjack says:

    Dang, but that thing is quick!

    It’s a good day for copter posts. I wish I had me a hexacopter, and one of these: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/02/triceracopter.html

  • Inventorjack says:

    Be sure to check the part of the site that’s already translated. Doesn’t have everything, but they detail a lot of good info and resources for copters in English including CAD files, code, and more: http://www.mikrokopter.de/ucwiki/en/MikroKopter

  • OxxyFX says:

    There is more to it then the kopter itself. The Quadrokopters/Hexacopters/Optokopters are sold as a kit only – otherwise the shipping charges would be exponential. If somebody wants to get engaged, there are a few things to know upfront. Here are a few links to get you thinking:
    Things to consider before buying: http://nghobbies.com/forum/index.php?topic=30.0
    Functions:
    http://nghobbies.com/forum/index.php?topic=31.0
    Transmitter selection:
    http://nghobbies.com/forum/index.php?topic=32.0
    Skills required for this project:
    http://nghobbies.com/forum/index.php?topic=33.0

    Make sure you read these to have a better understanding. All these pages are in English, so it should be easy enough.

  • Tane says:

    Holy crap, it’s a hoverdrone (from Dark Angel)! I’ve also been interested in building a ridable version for a while, but you can’t scale a quadricopter up enough because the rotors get too big, you have to make them variable pitch instead of fixed pitch, and it just becomes more practical to make a helicopter. With this approach I can really see 8 – 10 small (12-18″) rotors working in a rideable ‘flying saucer’ configuration. Ideal power source would be nanophosphate lithium batteries but as yet they still only give a flight time of a few minutes; maybe a hybrid drive with a central ~100kW engine generating electricity to run a bunch of 10kW fixed pitch rotors?

  • Jim says:

    How do you say, “no sh*t?” in German?

    Jim

  • mick says:

    i think i may make a few, then sell em to local coke dealers so they can fly there coke over the border. if it can carry 1Kg then i would be able to sell them for 5 grand easy cause they would be carrying a 30 grand payload

  • Lucas says:

    thats how to put something to good use. nicely done

  • civissmith says:

    That’s IMPRESSIVE! I want 9 of those things! I was really surprised during the first flight test – that thing took off a lot faster than I thought it would!

  • Simon says:

    Check out the latest podcast from DIYDrones.com there is an OpenSource being workedon called OpenPilot that has much better hardware and will be much cheaper as well.

  • Louis II says:

    Autonomous solar recharged swarm.
    Enough said about that idea?
    ;-)

  • OxxyFX says:

    Not talking about the wonderful Halloween applications… I flew this ghost under a 400mm quadrokopter…

    http://vimeo.com/2076007

  • Patrick says:

    What do you think would happen if he tried to fly that thing near the White House ?

  • AnthonyDi says:

    @mick – thats actually a really good idea.

  • Colin says:

    @jimmys

    shouldn’t there be close to an ideal point for the number of blades? Having more will lower the amount of RPMs needed, but the additional motors will increase the weight, I would think, considerably more.

  • Cory says:

    How does the drive shaft work?

    And Taylor you want to ‘build’ one…

  • Tommy Liberto says:

    You know I had one simple request, and that was to have hexacopters with frickin’ laser beams attached to them! I don’t recall anybody informing me that it couldn’t be done!
    Where are the frickin’ laser beams? Can you remind me of what I pay you people for? Honestly, throw me a bone here,.. I thought I said I wanted frickin’ laser beams mounted on that thing!

  • Eric says:

    It’s fairly unrealistic to think you could mount a gun on one of those. Imagine the amount of recoil even just a 9mm round does on a 150 lb human being let alone a ~20 lb helicopter.

  • Ulrich Lukas says:

    @taylor

    The design decision to choose four MOSFETs ist because of efficiency.
    If you use a half-bridge with one MOSFET and one (schottky) diode, you roughly have the forward voltage drop of the diode times the motor current times one minus the duty cycle as a loss.
    Typical MOSFETs have even lower conducting losses as schottky diodes at typical motor currents nowadays.

    And by using a full bridge (four transistors), you further get regenerative braking and better control characteristics.

  • Ulrich Lukas says:

    Sorry, correction: two transistors are enough for regenerative braking, if you have a DC motor. I mixed that up with another circuit. An H-bridge is needed for a single phase AC motor to invert the polarity.

    In this case you have a three-phase motor and you even need six MOSFETs.

  • autogiro says:

    Sikorsky experimented with up to 8 blades for a heavy lift helicopter, and indeed that’s about as far as it goes, it’s basically the same thing as having bi-plane or tri-plane on a standard aeroplane. You gain more by rotating the planes faster than by adding more. On heavy lift helicopters though it was found that having more blades, or planes, is more efficient, up to that 8 blade maximum.

    And for those interested in bigger applications of this particular demonstration, I’m afraid this vehicle won’t scale up well, even using cowling on the rotors, but in a small UAV this kind of approach might be very interesting.

    Aerodynamics doesn’t scale well, you can easily make a model plane fly, but the huge version of it won’t fly. That’s why you’ve never seen a 100 meter long airplane folded out of meter thick paper.

  • Inventorjack says:

    @autogiro: Not sure your comment about the paper airplanes really works as a good argument about aerodynamics (though I don’t disagree about the difficulty of scaling)

    A paper airplane is generally a glider that is initially launched with a lot of force. If you were to launch a 100meter long, meter thick paper airplane with the scaled-up force of a human throwing a small paper plane, it would probably glide a bit, but you never see it because it’s pointless and would be quite expensive and difficult to set up.

    That being said, I’d like to see it anyway.

  • rob says:

    @ERIC: Military have “recoiless rifles” which could be mounted on a larger version. They come in various calibers. Were used on Aircraft during Vietnam-”Puff, the Magic Dragon” check it out on Google or…
    Could easily design a 9MM one that would be great for covert night operations. Noise could be reduced.

  • Poch says:

    GO GO GADGET HEXACOPTER!!!

    Omg, the Germans really DO make great stuff. Imagine flying in one of these the way Inspector Gadget does, or at least hovering.

  • SirWesley says:

    Integrate this with people that are publishing their GPS location (ie Iphone GPS or Google Buzz) and if the Hexacopter was within a certain range it could “BUZZ” them, every time they “Tweeted”.

  • tc childress says:

    the xexacopter is the koolist thing i have ever saw ….. tell me where i can buy one and of course the price too …… thanks

  • jim says:

    Wholly crap that thing took off. Thought it was gone for sure then ziIIP it came back

  • John C says:

    @SirWesley – Very cool idea. Also image if you could check to see if it was online, and then send it an im asking for a coke. That would be cool

  • Chris Buckler says:

    I think you should make this into a jet pack style machine… that would be awesome!

  • Caleb Kraft says:

    To the guy that just called me on my cell phone looking for one of these.

    Sorry, I thought you were my friends pranking me.
    -caleb

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