1W blue laser – remarkably easy and dangerous

posted Aug 20th 2010 8:36am by
filed under: laser hacks

We’ve been covering Laser Hacks pretty much since the beginning but it’s surprising to see the niche market that has sprouted up around building powerful handheld modules. [Styropyro] filmed the video above as a tutorial on building a 1W blue laser. The “flashlight” that he starts with includes a heat sink intended for a laser diode. It seems there’s a lot of choices when choosing one of these build kits. A one Watt blue laser diode is press fit into the heat sink and wired in place. The body of the device receives a boost converter to get the batteries up to 1A, and once the assembly is complete the burning begins. It lights candles, matches, and pops balloons; the normal laser demo goodies.

So it’s a pretty easy build. But it’s also easy for someone being careless to damage their eyes. As [Styropyro] mentions in his comments, just looking at the dot created by the laser will damage your sight.



84 Responses to 1W blue laser – remarkably easy and dangerous

  • grenadier says:

    Oh no, the shit sure has hit the fan now. We can all expect lasers to be banned within the end of the year.

  • Brad Hein says:

    This is really neat but very very scary because of the inherent dangers.

    So many what if’s.

  • MrBishop says:

    I don’t know weather to be excited or terrified.. I pick terrified. I mean I would hope most HaD readers know better then to abuse or misuse this technology. Now I am off to go make some deliciously sexy Thermite; thx Google+HaD for all the help.

  • Javajunkie says:

    Oh boy! now I can be a real jedi.

  • darkore says:

    It really scares the shit out of me that the components for this laser are commercially available at relatively low prices. I need to laser-proof my eyes. Other than that though, nice project :)

  • strider_mt2k says:

    reflective armor (aluminum foil,mylar solar blanket-silver side, etc) or if nothing else, armor the same color as the laser.

    -aaaand GOGGLES PEOPLE!

  • nimrod says:

    uhm with commercially available products you can make bombs, drugs, alot of dangerous things really. in some countries its even legit to buy weapons xD.

  • nimrod says:

    thx strider, “armor the same color as the laser.”, made me instantly think of “paranoia” (oldskool PnP). ^^

  • Chris says:

    can i haz burning purple laser now? I want to be like mace windu

  • ACIDRAIN says:

    I have no problem with HaD readers in general, but rather with angry teenagers that have been beaten for 10+ years and kill birds for fun. They throw rocks through random windows at 2AM and kick car doors while people sleep. There is no shortage of those kids, and when they have a laser like this, you can rest assured that many people will go blind when one such kid sits on top of a building and zaps peoples’ faces for weeks before he is caught, if he is caught at all.

  • Wolfton says:

    I need someone to put this in a Blue Lantern ring. How’s THAT for Hope?

    This is going to be too easy to weaponize in the next couple years. I wonder how long it will take to pop the tire of a car while moving? I wonder how long before guided munitions have lasers included as armor piercing technology.

    I wonder how these high powered lasers will be used to fire bullets without a hammer and pin, making ballistics analysis harder to trace rounds and their casings back to an actual weapon.

  • Andrew says:

    I actually started building a 250mW laser a couple years ago. I had all the parts, including safety glasses.. but the closer I got to finishing, the quicker I lost my enthusiasm. I realized I love my vision far more than I would enjoy the laser multiplied by the odds of being hurt by it. I never did finish it.
    ..anybody want to buy a pair of red laser safety glasses?

  • thlip says:

    hey just make sure if you do this and you’re not experienced with lasers that you know you need to get the proper glasses for each laser. Each set of glasses is made for a particular wave length. This one is set for 445nm wave length so you need that kind of glasses http://www.wickedlasers.com/lasers/Arctic_445nm_LaserShades-100-16.html
    There’s probably other places that sell them for cheaper.

  • grant says:

    Please remember this about laser safety: the color of the glasses is not the color it blocks! A pair of red goggles will let a red laser right through them. They usually block green lasers. Be sure the goggles you use are meant to block the wavelength you are using.

  • Pilotgeek says:

    Here’s my HAD reader impression. Ready? Here it goes:
    “Waaahhhh safety legality blah blah no fun put on your helmet >=(“

  • jeditalian says:

    need price list, DO WANT :D

  • bolke says:

    Please, come on everybody.
    Yes, parts are commercially available.
    So are guns, in America.
    So are knives, everywhere.
    You can even lose an eye using your finger.

  • thlip says:

    @bolke

    Typically when you get a gun you go through a safety course. I think the more complex an instrument is the more caution you should have while handling it. A knife is pretty basic no need for a proper explanation. A gun is more complex you need a license to use it. A laser is more complex than that.

    I think most people could use a laser but they should be aware of the things that go along with it, and have the proper equipment to operate it. I think people around here who do this a lot and have heard horror stories just want people to be aware of the risks before doing this hack.

    seriousness aside,if you loose your eye using your finger… well you probably shouldn’t be using any of the other tools you mentioned.

  • Chris says:

    nimrod: I didn’t play paranoia enough to remember that, but I do remember in Larry Niven’s Ringworld novels they mentioned the material the same color as the laser thing.

    bolke: If you lose an eye using your finger your doing it wrong!

  • Haku says:

    If you make a blinding weapon use high power red, green and blue lasers so if someone wears goggles to protect from one colour it won’t save them from the other two.

    The only safe way to protect your eyes at that point would be through use of cameras plugged into LCD video glasses.

  • Chris says:

    @thlip: Got my first gun for my 16th birthday, never been to a safety course. In many localities you don’t need a license to use/carry a gun. Before I got annexed by the City I only needed a buyers permit from the County Sheriff, which simply meant they did a background check. No safety course etc. required. The City requires a permit for concealed carry, but open carry is legal without a permit.

  • Brennan says:

    I like how the warning screen flashes so fast you can barely get to the e-OMG LAZER

  • Chris says:

    @Haku: if your opponents are wearing protective goggles because they are expecting you to attack with lasers, use a different weapon altogether.

    The general who thoroughly understands the advantages that accompany variation of tactics knows how to handle his troops.
    – SUN TZU ON THE ART OF WAR

  • Andrew says:

    I don’t think the comparison of a high-power laser with a gun is a very good one. With a gun, you know exactly where and when the danger lies, and people in general respect the risks of handling them. With a laser, you can be carefully pointing it away from yourself and everyone you care about, and still accidentally catch a reflection long enough to damage your vision. On top of that, no matter what you tell them, many people have NO respect for the danger of using a laser. (Think about the last time your friends played with a laser pointer around you. How long did it take for it take them to point it at your face?)

  • Jagerkatze says:

    Now that we have building a 1W laser, how’s about we hack it up a little? Mount it to a CNC or something along those lines and shield the unit. Put a safety so the glass must be closed before firing. Then use it for etching.

    Just a thought beyond the obvious use of, “zOMG LULZ AI CAN BURN THINGZ NOW LOLOLOL”

  • thlip says:

    @Chris

    Guess it’s different between different states and such I’m up in Canada it’s kind of hard to follow.

    Anyways I still think it’s something you need to be more careful with. If we do end up with a bunch of people being stupid they are just going to ruin it for the rest of us. So why not advocate proper use now instead of having it a political issue in a few years with people crying for their ban.

  • Whoever says:

    “no matter what you tell them, many people have NO respect for the danger of using a laser”

    EXACTLY my experience.

    I’ve seen EVERY stupid kid believe they already know how to safely play with a laser and that they’re mature enough to own one. Then, of course, they proceed to do stupid things with it until some poor cat goes blind or someone has their hair burnt.

    Lasers are MUCH more dangerous than guns and can’t be compared, if for no other reason that people tends to have very deep respect for guns, but no respect at all for lasers.

    Knifes are a completely invalid comparsion. Even a huge sword has a very limited “range”. A laser has several thousand meters of range and leaves no evidence of who did it (just like a well handled gun), plus is a lot easier to conceal.
    Also, people has more respect for knifes, probably even more than guns because the risk is downright obvious and highly intuitive.

  • nimrod says:

    see, if dangerous things were only for mental people, we would have a better world. unfortunately, whats is dangerous and what is not? and then again, everybody can be a president. all im saying is, dickheads will always be and they will always find a way to piss you off.

  • Whoever says:

    “if dangerous things were only for mental people, we would have a better world”

    Wrong.

    What we’re calling “dangerous” here are devices that are dangerous to OTHER people than those using it.

    What you’re calling “dangerous” there would be some kind of suicide device, very much the contrary to a weapon (although some terrorists might disagree).

    Wanted to add that I freaking love high power lasers and have a vast personal collection, including a 70W handheld engraver.
    It’s just that the tought of “normal” uneducated people having access to lasers like those in my collection.. Well, gives me very strong chills. And these kind of tutorials are making it easier by the day.

  • LOOKINTOTEHLASER says:

    So I don’t get it woots the hack in this.
    The only hack I see here that he builds it into a flashlight casing, big deal…

    Oh and smoking dangerous to your health too dont forget that

  • Jess says:

    …annnnd I just ordered the diode. THANKS HAD. Gah!

    This pretty much blows away my current blue setup.. battery life be damned!

  • zool says:

    lol he doesn’t include the safety glasses in the ‘parts you’ll need’ section

    i’d like to see someone put it to use for something insted of burning matches, popping balloons and other dumb stuff

  • osgeld says:

    “Oh and smoking dangerous to your health too dont forget that”

    hey thanks, its break time and I need to go suck down a couple cancer sticks myself!

  • zeropointmodule says:

    what is it with the comment spam??!!!

    as for safety, the dangers of any 200mW output with a tiny increase in drive current.

    Yes, they are useful tools WHEN PROPERLY USED INDOORS WITH THE CORRECT OD7 RATED GOGGLES!!!!

  • bobdole says:

    @thlip: wicked lasers’ goggles are awful. They’re really terrible. I wouldn’t trust them at all. Do not buy them. Do not try to find cheaper goggles. Your eyesight is worth millions of dollars. Don’t cheap out and buy crappy chinese $50 goggles.
    In fact, never buy anything wicked lasers makes, at all, ever. They’ve got a really bad track record for selling junk. All of their lasers are less powerful than advertised, if they work at all. They usually break in a few hours, and they cost 10 times more than they should. Never buy anything from WL. Period.

    oemlasersystems.com has some actual proper certified protective eyewear for sale. It costs more, but as I mentioned, my insurance policy values the use of my eyes at $10,000,000, so a hundred bucks to save them is a bargain.

  • grenadier says:

    o-like.com has some pretty good goggles too.

  • Link says:

    hmm, at what wattage is a laser powerful enough to burn some things, but not so powerful that goggles are required at all times? No goggles with safe use and common sense obviously.

  • Jake says:

    As far as the danger, meh. I just bought a SIG arms (US version of SIG Sauer) 556 swat edition on GunBroker for under $2000. Now THAT is dangerous! XD

  • M4CGYV3R says:

    Le Lightsaber Terrible!

    Ok, so I need a price on a 445nm diode then. Last I looked they were approaching $1500 which makes this pretty unachievable for me.

  • jim says:

    You really need training and proper safety equipment to use this — and making such a thing to burn matches and pop balloons is idiotic.

    On the bright side, if you point it at an airliner, the partyvan might pay a visit.

  • xorpunk says:

    be thankful it’s only 1W, they could go a lot more with this design because of the heatsink.

    This isn’t really a weapon. I guess you could hurt peoples eyes, but that’s it, and it doesn’t hurt even the most low density metals.

  • EdZ says:

    This is no more or less dangerous than the cheap high-wattage IR modules available for laser cutters/etchers, with the possible exception that a particularly idiotic user may look straight into the IR module wondering why he can’t see anything, and subsequently never see anything again after destroying his retina.
    Basically, if you can read a safety label, you can avoid blinding yourself with a laser.

  • NKT says:

    @Link: Think about what you are saying! You want a power level that burns “stuff” by laser, but won’t hurt your eyes because it is too bright? Keep dreaming!

    That’s like asking what temperature is best for burning wood, that you can hold it.

    Paper and plastic don’t react to light at all. Your eyes can see individual photons. If it burns paper then it will fry your eyes ten times over before that.

    @Jake: Nice piece. But used badly, the laser is probably more of a threat – silent, longer ranged, visible for fractions of a second, and keeps going half a day without reloading. Oh, and far more easily concealed.

  • TC says:

    … is this covered by the Second Amendment?

  • jim says:

    You guys do know this will destroy the retina before you can blink?

    Jesus Christ, some of you people are poster kids for why everything has safety labels and rules. This is a jury rigged Class 4 laser — it’s an accident waiting to happen.

  • Mohamed says:

    I thought lasers were cool at one point but I’ve grown out of it. I’d only build this if I had any use for it which I dont at the moment. I’m just a bit concerned about the kiddo’s who might be visiting HaD. With the obvious dangers this project is suddenly no longer cool!

  • thlip says:

    @bobdole

    That’s good to know I just went to find the first option in google that fit the right wavelength. You’re right if I’m screwing around with lasers I would spend the cash to make sure they are safe.

  • tristan says:

    if you even stare at the dot reflecting off a white wall you could cause damage to your eyes.

  • Gert says:

    What would the range be if you were to point this at the sky? Could it reach the ISS?

  • nnx says:

    @Gert:
    Bad Gert, bad!
    blinding astronauts is really bad, mkay?

  • Hungry_Myst says:

    I’m assuming most of the people claiming lasers are more dangerous than guns are American…

    This seems idiotic to me. Lasers are clearly safer than a gun as the worst you can do with this sort of laser is ruin someone’s eyesight or give someone a nasty burn. A gun on the other hand can kill someone, very quickly. There really isn’t any comparison with regard to how dangerous these two things are. Just because they’re more common doesn’t change that.

    I will concede that your arguments do have one good point. That is that generally people do respect guns but they don’t respect or even understand lasers. While guns are clearly more dangerous it is more likely that someone is going to get hurt in some way due to ignorance with lasers. This is an ignorance issue.

  • Hackius says:

    How about mounting this on a CNC and doing some great DIY

  • n3il says:

    @hackius – i was thinking the same thing, but i think most laser cutters are around 40watts min… probably not enough power here to do any real work.

  • vaporland says:

    @Hungry_Myst, if someone shines this in my eyes while i’m driving (like, from a car in oncoming traffic), I’ll probably crash and maybe die.

    It’s at least as dangerous as a gun. Silent and deadly.

    That being said, information wants to be free. It’s not knowing how to build this that is the hazard, it’s actually doing it and then misusing it.

    Some stupid a**hole will make tons of money by building these and selling them to the irresponsible.

  • svofski says:

    I did some very slow going wood engraving on my plotter with a 300mW laser. This wouldn’t be useful on a plotter for cutting stuff, but for engraving it should be awesome. I’d love to try it.

  • Oren Beck says:

    Do Not Stare Into Laser With Remaining Eye

  • Maave says:

    Is the damage from visible light or UV?
    I read that plastic (glasses) block some UV but is there any kind of coating that I can apply, just to be safe?

  • zeropointmodule says:

    @maave, both. the power per photon is greater than a red laser and you can even “burn” OLED displays from tens of feet away with even a low powered beam.
    I ruined the screen on a cheap MP3 player this way, it now has permanent dark blobs on the screen.

    (note, this was with a relatively low powered laser, less than 50mW collimated beam at 405nm)

    i can see this being a major headache when large screens are used for outdoor displays or sale outlets.

  • ZeUs says:

    @ACIDRAIN
    i lolled
    For weeks before being caught? Have you seen the video? That beam is a solid bar for as far as it reaches, of course such a person would get caught!

    (also you’re a bit paranoid)

  • GZ says:

    From reading the thread I have some questions:

    Where are all the pipe bomb hacks? :)

    Which is worse, being shot in the leg of blind for life?

    The first night he had it he took it outside. How long till something happens with the neighbors?

    Any tool used incorrectly is dangerous. (Remember, when you use your gun for a hammer, unload it first) I just wonder what the mayhem level be.

    I agree, these will be regulated or banned very soon. There are simply too many stupid people in a population sample for it to be unregulated.

  • Ru says:

    Its a bit too late to try and regulate this sort of thing. Blu-ray laser diodes are quite powerful enough to blind, and available pretty much everywhere. Making a pocketable laser is a common enough project, and this nicely shows how easy it is. Making the components illegal to stop people messing around with them hasn’t helped in the War On Drugs; why do you think it might help in the War On Shiny Things?

    My suggestion? Start wearing an eyepatch. That way you’ve got a hot-failover vision system in the event that someone starts messing around with one of these toys. Also works against nuke-flash, j-rays and green orbital blinding weapons combined with carnivorous animated plants. Yarr.

  • Derek says:

    So What was the total in parts? How much for me to buy one from someone? Someone Build me one please! lol.

  • helltone says:

    how to start a fire in the forest…

  • Hungry_Myst says:

    @vaporland That doesn’t prove anything. If I threw a balloon full of paint at someone’s windshield while there driving they could crash and die, does that mean paint balloons are as dangerous as guns because they could both kill people? Of course not. Same goes for lasers; the ability to distract or blind, either temporarily or permanently, someone while there doing something dangerous doesn’t prove that lasers are dangerous but that the task that the person is performing is.

    Again, lasers are clearly not as dangerous as guns. That’s not to say they aren’t dangerous because they are, but to draw a comparison to guns is being overzealous. They’re just more prone to misuse.

  • James says:

    “”They’re just more prone to misuse.”"

    Which technically makes them more dangerous.

    I like experimenting with stuff like this but I know I’m able to judge the risks and safety I need to take. If someone else is playing with it I’ve no control over that, while I’m all for the hacks I do find it a bit worrying that bob the 15 year old down the road might build one and not think about it’s use, leaving ME with injury. I only hope that anyone attempting these things really does think it over and use their brains, for the sake of others.

  • James says:

    Safety and ethics are an inherent part of engineering, but generally little taught but greatly policed.

  • Link says:

    @NKT
    To my understanding, you should not use this laser without goggles, because the very beam itself would damage your eyes without looking directly into it.

    What I meant was, a cheap laser pointer won’t damage your eyes unless you point it at your eye socket. A laser diode from a DVD burner has enough power to pop a balloon maybe, but it still doesn’t damage your eyes. No goggles required. At what wattage should you begin to cover your eyes?

  • draeath says:

    What the heck is a Jayrob Flashlight? Searching for it only results DIY instructions like this, not a source.

  • LRMNmeyer says:

    @Link
    No! A diode from a DVD burner WILL damage your eyes. Your eye acts as an extremely effective lens which focuses the light onto your retina. Ever used a magnifying glass to burn things? Same concept.
    You need goggles for any laser that you plan to use indoors or to burn something, except for maybe the <5mW red pointers you find at retail stores.

    And to everyone else planning to build this, BUY GOGGLES! Not those cheap Chinese ones or DIY ones, but certified goggles with an OD of 5 or more from a reputable source. Looking at the dot from distances of 20 feet and maybe more is harmful to your eyes.

    Also, many people, when they think of lasers, they think of toys. Everyone knows a gun is dangerous. The same can't be said for lasers.
    /rant

  • Oren Beck says:

    Folks, I would be scared much more by consensus here ending up as calling concerns unfounded. For your amusement or as an exercise in fact checking- tally up how many posts are urging rational Vs non-rational or even STUPID things. You can stop reading now if you think Laser issues are not quite real.

    If that ~1 watt diode has rightly directed us to re- evaluate Laser power and safety concepts? The link may make fears of the 1 watt diode seem trivial..

    http://www.primedical.net/lasers_surgical.html#Diode180

    Remember- Laser “Power Density” is non-linear for some modes/ collimation of operation! Think of it as potentially equal to comparisons of Isotropic Vs Unidirectional RF antennas. Some of us will now begin sweating thinking about when-not if.. that 180 watt diode gear winds up in the wrong or merely unaware..hands!! Think of what the Epilog boxed lasers do to the side panels of a MakerBot..

    Education about the *SAFE* usages of Coherent Light emitters is our best, perhaps only hope of preventing Really Bad Things..

    I have a Grandson who turned 12 this weekend.. We went to the Maker event in Parkville MO with other family members. They- and he- are some of the reasons I appear to be/am preachy on safety.. I do not want him- or anyone, to be at risk of some cretin showing off their unsafe for unprotected humans Lasers. The Maker/Hacker communities need to become united in declaring common sense safety rules as a minimum.

    If we screw up and someone gets badly hurt or worse by a Laser? That’s becoming a when, not if concept..If the quite real dangers are ignored? Ah, think of the backlash against all Hacker/Maker culture. It might have all of Hackerdom wishing we’d been more careful. CCCKC has had a few posted “Be Careful- but not Too Careful” messages embedded in various places..

    Lasers need to be thought of as things demanding nothing less than our sober awareness when handling them.. Tools are only a potential danger. The users of them are the only interlock between fragile humans and our tools.

  • Fraydo says:

    I agree with Oren Beck.

    You know, He/Ne lasers and Diode lasers can damage eyesight, and yet, almost every store has laser price scanners flashing you in the face hundreds of times a second. Or hand-held scanners in a holder aimed where you get hit in the eye. And lottery ticket scanners, etc.

    “Oh, it is only brief exposure” people say.
    Well, do you think it quickly adds up? How many seconds exposure does it take to damage someone’s eyesight? One second? Two? How often do you plan to shop over your lifetime?

    You can’t even walk into Home Depot without getting beamed in the face. And what about cashiers who are exposed all day!
    I’ve been looking for blue sunglasses, but…

    People, we’ve got to protest every time we shop! And spread the word on-line. Why us; because we know more about these than non-techies.

    All lasers should come with bigger and multiple warnings. And like mattress tags, be illegal to detach. The law should require large warnings be displayed prominently at every cash register or device that uses a laser. Operators, yes, cashiers, should be required to attend training that emphasizes the danger. Pocket lasers should never be sold to kids; really they should be taken off the market.

    Exiting soap box. My 02 cents.

  • Maave says:

    All the parts together cost about $150.

  • john says:

    There is no good that can come from this. Any laser over 5mW should be bench mounted for proper use in a physics research or industrial environment. Anyone that makes a laser like this portable is only promoting mischief because there is no legitimate or legal use for such a device. I would sign any petition to make them illegal.

  • Oblig. quote says:

    “Do not look into laser with remaining eye.”

  • Link says:

    @LRMNmeyer

    Aight, understood; goggles for anything but cheap dime store lasers. Hmmm I was unaware of the intensity of the dangers of lasers it seems.

  • nimrod says:

    geez, am i at nofuntoday.com?
    Anyone here ever done any arc based welding? I know the arc puts out the entire range of UV but dont know what intensity apart from ‘fucking bright’. I assume a welding mask would be ok for viewing but assumptions are the mother of all fuckups so ill leave testing to some other sucker.

  • Benmwv says:

    ^^ it’s people like that that should never own a high powered laser. Luckily those people usually don’t have the skills to make one.

    I have plenty of high powered lasers including 445′s. From 400-1500 mw and they are awesome but you have to respect their power and use safety glasses at all times ( unless outdoors shining in the sky, far distance. Etc.)

  • Graham says:

    This has been informative, humoring, and much more… I can easily say that i have MUCH more experience with firearms, then just about all electronic devices, including lasers. Yet common sense is just that ~ Common sense. The dangers produced by high power lasers, or light in its self – are one thing. But the fears for stupidity are pointless- there will always be stupid people, so why should everyone else suffer? Merely test or certify the sell to regulate the number of people owning such device in order to help cut down/ and lowering numbers of damage caused by ignorance. My knowledge with physics/ science is self gathered, but im a machinist, mechanic, gunsmith, hold medical certs, welding certs, as well as licenses to possess and transport explosives. Due to my enjoyment from reading every ones posts – ive just placed order for a 1W blue laser, and am thinking that i might just place a second order for a yellow laser as well… While its strongly not suggested for firearm use – Im thinking of possibilities in regards to producing a illumination device/ expanding the beam diameter/ with lens or maybe a diamond? Last i read diamonds had the ability to slow light- wonder what effect they would have on a laser? Im curious to learn more, as to why i ordered one… Have already bored myself with firearms.

  • skin_chops says:

    just built one i love it

  • manxe12 says:

    can u send me a list of the componentes

  • George says:

    really nice vid and well detailed. hopefully i could make one but ive never even tried making a laser

  • qlue says:

    Has anyone here noted that this is a Class IV laser?
    Class IV lasers are regulated by the Occupational Health And Safety laws of any civilised country! The fact that some people will simply ignore those laws, even if only due to ignorance of them, does not mean this is not regulated.

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