Last time, I assembled a Python object representing a Rigol oscilloscope. Manipulating the object communicates with the scope over the network. But my original goal was to build a little GUI window to sit next to the scope’s web interface. Had I stuck with C++ or even C, I would probably have just defaulted to Qt or maybe FLTK. I’ve used WxWidgets, too, and other than how many “extra” things you want, these are all easy enough to use. However, I had written the code in Python, so I had to make a choice.
Granted, many of these toolkits have Python bindings — PyQt, PySide, and wxPython come to mind. However, the defacto GUI framework for Python is Tkinter, a wrapper around Tk that is relatively simple to use. So, I elected to go with that. I did consider PySimpleGUI, which is, as the name implies, simple. It is attractive because it wraps tkinter, Qt, WxPython, or Remi (another toolkit), so you don’t have to pick one immediately. However, I decided to stay conservative and stuck with Tkinter. PySimpleGUI does have a very sophisticated GUI designer, though.
About Tkinter
The Tkinter toolkit lets you create widgets (like buttons, for example) and give them a parent, such as a window or a frame. There is a top-level window that you’ll probably start with. Once you create a widget, you make it appear in the parent widget using one of three layout methods:
- Absolute or relative coordinates in the container
- “Pack” to the top, bottom, left, or right of the container
- Row and column coordinates, treating the container like a grid
The main window is available from the Tk() method:
import tkinter as tk root=tk.Tk() root.title('Example Program') button=tk.Button(root, text="Goodbye!", command=root.destroy) button.pack(side='left') root.mainloop()
That’s about the simplest example. Make a button and close the program when you push it. The mainloop
call handles the event loop common in GUI programs.
Newer Widgets
Some tkinter widgets look old-fashioned, but newer variants can automatically replace the old ones. The new widgets are packaged as tkinter.ttk. These new widgets have slight differences, but most of the basic setup remains the same. The appearance functions are different, though. For example, a normal button uses fg
and bg
to set the foreground and background colors. A ttk button uses a style system that is more complex to set up, but also more powerful.
It is dead simple to use the new widgets. Normally, you’d import the whole GUI library with an import. You can import ttk from the tkinter module and then refer to the widgets explicitly (e.g., ttk.Button
). However, it is common to simply import everything from tkinter and then use tkinter.ttk to override anything that is in the ttk library. For example:
from tkinter import * from tkinter.ttk import *
Now, every reference to Button
, for example, will resolve to ttk.Button
. There are 18 “new” widgets, including some that don’t appear in the original tkinter, like Combobox
and Treeview
.
GUI Builder?
I started out looking for a good GUI builder for tkinter and I didn’t really find much. There’s a website that doesn’t seem to work well (and doesn’t handle ttk), a project that uses a paid GUI builder and then translates its output to tkinter, and PAGE.
PAGE is actually not bad but a little quirky. What I didn’t like was that it does the ordinary placement layout, which means a form you design might look bad on some machines due to font sizes or other factors. So a button might be placed at, say, 0.034 x 0.267 from the top corner of its container. In other words, 3.4% across and 26.7% down. However, if you spend some time with it, it does work and probably generates code that looks ok more than it fails to render nicely.
However, I finally decided just to build the GUI manually. It isn’t that hard. If you want a simple experience, check out PySimpleGUI I mentioned earlier. The layout there is a list of lists. Each list is a row in the GUI. That’s it. So: [ [ Row_1_column_1, Row_1, column_2,...],[Row_2_column_1,....],...]
. That’s very simple to deal with. But doing it directly in tkinter is not bad, either.
Layout
I used a simple class to lay out my GUI and tried to keep it agnostic to the scope more or less. It creates a Scope object (from the last post) and manipulates it, but it doesn’t understand the commands or the communications. If you are a traditional GUI programmer, the scope object is the model and the GUI class is the view and the controller.
Most of the work occurs in the class constructor. There are three main parts:
- Some internal state variables like
connected
and thescope
object, which, initially isNone
. - The creation of GUI widgets. This doesn’t show anything; it simply creates the objects. This section also creates some ttk styles for use with the Run/Stop button.
- The final section arranges the widgets in their parents.
You have to get used to the idea that you specify the parent widget in step 2, but you set the widget’s position in step 3. For example, consider this excerpt from the code:
self.clabel=LabelFrame(self.top,text='Control') self.rsbtn=Button(self.clabel,text="Run/Stop",command=self.do_rs,style="GoBtn.TButton") . . . # create more stuff self.rsbtn.pack(side="left") . . . # more buttons here self.clabel.pack(side='top',fill='both',expand='yes')
The first line creates a labeled frame attached to the top window. Then, the code makes a button that is a child of the label. It has some text, a style, and a function to call when you push the button.
pack
layout manager. However, I also use the grid
manager in a custom component. A tiny bit of code at the end of the constructor captures the Enter key so you can type in an IP address and hit Enter instead of pressing the connect button. The code also sets the focus on the entry field. If you are a keyboard aficionado, the tab order, by default, is the order you create the widgets, although you can change that in the software.Custom Components
For the scope controller, I needed some direction pads. That is, four arrow buttons going in different directions and a center button you can push. The tkinter library has nothing like that, but that’s not a problem. You can simply build it yourself. The tkinter widgets are just classes, and you can easily extend them to make your own variations and composite widgets.
First, I needed a small button, and out of laziness, I decided to create a custom component. I simply derived a new class from Button
and set a default width of 1 in the constructor. Truthfully, I should have just hardcoded the width. If you are going to supply a width, why not just use a regular button? Anyway, here’s the entire code:
# Create a tiny button from tkinter import * from tkinter.ttk import * class Button1(Button): def __init__(self, parent,text='',command=None,width=1): Button.__init__(self,parent,text=text,command=command,width=width)
As you can see, creating a custom widget doesn’t have to be a big deal. Normally a good base class for custom widgets is Frame
. A frame can hold other widgets; by default, it is invisible. Just what you need. In this case, though, it made more sense to customize the Button
class.
I did use Frame
as the base class for the direction pad. I create some buttons that use a lambda — an anonymous, inline function — for their actions. This lets the code easily call a single callback for all the buttons. The default callback breaks everything back out to functions like up
or down
.
At first, that might seem crazy. Why not just assign the function directly to the key? The answer is reusability. There are several ways to use the custom component:
- Set a non-default callback. This is a single function to process all keys.
- Create a new subclass and replace the default callback. Again, this is a single function for all keys.
- Create a new subclass and replace each of the low-level functions. This provides separate functions for each key.
The layout is simple, using the grid
call to set a row and column:
def __init__(self,parent,callback=None): Frame.__init__(self,parent) self.callback=callback self.upbtn=Button1(self,text="^",command=lambda: self.press(Dpad.UP)) self.dnbtn=Button1(self,text="V",command=lambda: self.press(Dpad.DOWN)) self.rtbtn=Button1(self,text=">",command=lambda: self.press(Dpad.RIGHT)) self.lfbtn=Button1(self,text="<",command=lambda: self.press(Dpad.LEFT)) self.exebtn=Button1(self,text="*",command=lambda: self.press(Dpad.EXEC)) self.upbtn.grid(row=0, column=1) self.lfbtn.grid(row=1, column=0) self.rtbtn.grid(row=1, column=2) self.dnbtn.grid(row=2,column=1) self.exebtn.grid(row=1,column=1)
Now, the main code can create two different direction pads without problems.
The Whole Enchilada
You can find the entire code on GitHub. Once you get past the GUI layout, most of the code just calls the object from the last time that actually talks to the scope.
There are two interesting things, though. Since the DHO900 doesn’t give you a way to emulate key presses, the program has to understand a bit about the state of the device. For example, pressing the Run/Stop button works differently if the scope is already running or already stopped. So, the program needs to know the current state to send the right command.
It is possible to query the scope at the time of the command, of course. However, I wanted the program to track the state periodically and update certain UI elements. For example, I wanted the Run/Stop button to show red or green based on what would happen if you pressed the button. The trigger type combo box, too, should reflect the current trigger state even if someone manually changes it.
Luckily, tkinter provides a way to add delay processing to the event loop using after
. The code calls it against the top window with a delay in milliseconds. When the timeout expires, the tick
function runs. To keep the timer function going, tick
must also rearm itself by calling after
again. Before that, though, the code queries the state of the scope and updates the UI along with some state variables in the UI object.
The program seems to work well and should be much easier to port to a different scope now. If you can’t tell, GUIs are generally not my thing, although I build them when I have to. For simple stuff, tkinter isn’t half bad.
Once you can control your scope and grab data from it, there are lots of fun things you can do. Things can quickly get out of hand — but in a good way.
Have you thought about writing it as an interface (library) between SCPI and a project like OpenHantek?
I like to see collaboration between different project and extension of capabilities. But often people just want to tinker on their own projects. Or the collaboration part or learning the codebase of the other project is a too big obstacle.
button=tkButton(root, text=”Goodbye!”, command=root.destroy)
should be:
button=tk.Button(root, text=”Goodbye!”, command=root.destroy)
(added dot between tk and Button)
I’m going to blame WordPress lol
Wow, tk seems to have come a long way, I always thought it was NotBestPracticesWare and nobody used it. I’ll definitely have to check it out.
It’s probably been years since the last time I made a GUI with anything but web tech, but tk looks like a nice way to make something easy and portable.
I’ve used it a bit, for building read-only data displays. I used it because I was a Python newbie and it’s essentially native to Python and keeps me from having to chase down additional libraries. What I struggled with was receiving data via RS232 or Ethernet while it was in it’s native GUI polling mode. I ended up being able to control the looping to refresh the display without invoking that feature. There’s an update type command that allows showing new data without being stuck in that loop.
There’s probably a better way, but that worked for me. I probably should have gone with one of the libraries that provides a GUI builder. If you like tedium though, go with straight code for presentation of a multitude of values.
“I always thought it was NotBestPracticesWare and nobody used it.”
Tk’s been “sleazy scriptable UI” for 30+ years now. It’s the interface everyone loves to rag on until they bang their head against other interfaces and grumble quietly back to it.
Kinda wish you had gone with PyQt. But yes, I have to try this! The Rigol controls drive me nuts after years with nice sensible Tek.
You could use a link to “last time” unless I missed something.
Tkinter has the advantage that it basically “just works”, like, everywhere, because Tk itself is scripted and Tcl is frighteningly stable. I loved PyQt when I first used it, but when I first hit a case where dependency issues made using PyQt literally impossible, suddenly tkinter looked really attractive.
I really like pygubu-designer for quickly building a tKinter GUI. It has some quirks, but less so than PAGE (at least in my opinion). It can generate either code for pygubu, or straight python/tKinter. I use the latter for portability then create a sub class in a new file where I can keep all the application logic and callback functions seperate from the GUI code. Makes it very easy to change the layout as my application expands without buggering up the rest of my code.
Why was GUI development so much easier with C# ?
Drag and drop, minimal code.
Agreed, back to VB6, Delphi and BC Builder, I used to be able to whip up applications in next to no time with the forms designers, these days it feels like we’ve gone backwards a long way and it takes an awful lot more effort
I’ve been playing with GUIZero, seems to work quite well.
Have you considered usint TCL?
I’m one of those who feel unease about still using tk. Either through python or through its original language tcl. I used it a lot and wrote quite big applications with it. Both in tcl and through Perl. To mention some of the drawbacks compared to modern toolkits: No internationalization, forget about Arabic, Hebrew, and other complex scripts. No styling. A tk program look exactly the same on all platform.
I agree that the learning curve is a bit steeper for PySide (PyQt) or, python gtk. But once you have done it once, you can inherit and reuse your work. And if you decide to port to C++, both of these platform maps quite easily. My personal choice for proof of concept graphics is with Gtk and doing graphics directly with cairo, or sometimes goocanvas.
But for speed, I’ve been looking at https://github.com/hoffstadt/DearPyGui for quite a while. Though it suffers from the lack of styling and i18n as well.