Gitbrew brings OtherOS back to the PS3

posted May 5th 2011 9:14am by
filed under: linux hacks, playstation hacks

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Instead of simply watching the days pass by while the PSN network continues to be unavailable, why not do something useful with your PS3 console? [MS3FGX] wrote in to share some news regarding efforts to bring the OtherOS option back to the PS3.

The team at gitbrew.org have been diligently working to bring Linux back to the console for a little while now, and have released a dual-boot firmware they are calling OtherOS++. This firmware has two huge benefits over Sony’s original attempt at Linux support for the console. It can be run on the original “fat” PS3s as well as the newer “slim” models – something that was not possible until now. Additionally, it gives the Linux install full access to the PS3’s hardware rather than running the OS inside a virtual machine.

The project is relatively new, so the installation procedures and associated documentation are not suitable for the less experienced individuals out there, so consider yourself warned.

We love that there are people doing all they can to bring this awesome feature back to the PS3 – it’s a huge step in the right direction.

[Image via gitbrew]



60 Responses to Gitbrew brings OtherOS back to the PS3

  • woutervddn says:

    s*ck on this sony.. Although I wonder if it would result in yet another lawsuit.

    btw, I thought there already was a way to run the original ‘fat’ ps3 firmware on the ps3 slim. Or am I wrong here?

  • NatureTM says:

    Funny, my SSD on my PC failed last night, so I was looking for something to do. I ended up messing with my PS3, and was wishing there was a way to install Linux again. Good timing!

  • tony says:

    I can’t help but think that if Sony had not canned the Linux support in the first place, then hackers might have been less likely to target them.

  • PocketBrain says:

    Jolly good, sir! At last, we have access to our own hardware. I was disheartened when Sony saw fit to remove a feature that I had listed as a plus vs. other platforms, in making my purchasing decision. One that I had taken advantage of, installing Ubuntu for PS3. I hope this doesn’t inspire Sony to remove other features, like F@H and PS2 support. Perhaps their focus will be on securing their own network for long enough for us to do some good with this.

  • Surma says:

    I wonder how long it takes until we are able to launch the games from within Linux – be that from BluRay-Disc or the infamous backup copy.

  • lwatcdr says:

    So do we now have full access to the GPU and all the cells?

  • w0rl4ck says:

    GPU drivers MIA

  • xorpunk says:

    gimee free stuffz..I wantz waruz..dis runz backoops??? yo you gangsta?

    sorry..had to do it xD

  • cryptopsy90 says:

    Geohot was merely a setback.

  • M says:

    I’d love to see somebody start a replacement version of the PSN powered by all the recent uberhacks that people could run on a LAN. Call it the Working Play Network. It’d get me to consider actually buying one.

  • Dear Sony,

    you should really consider cooperating with your customers instead of fighting against them. Your recent history proves that it is a more optimal solution.

  • xorpunk says:

    @spiritplumber: They did by removing a method to run unsigned code they couldn’t fix it without removing Linux..

    Most people didn’t even use it, it’s just software pirates crying the blues now cause they have to pay for others hard work..

  • patxitron says:

    @xorpunk: It seems that there will always be someone that find the method to run unsigned code.

    I stopped buying PS3 games as soon as Sony removed the otherOS feature so I’ve continued using linux in PS3 and plying only old games.

    Only a fucking moron could think that PS3 linux users are software pirates.

  • silverpalm says:

    linux was bought back a long time along by graf_chokolo sont thanked him by kicking his door down lol

  • Blucat says:

    @xorpunk: while it’s true that most people didn’t use it, saying it was “just” the software pirates complaining is a rather unfair.

  • What this would be ideal for is making mobile robots using PS3 mainboards.

    On the flip side, has anyone confirmed that this works on RSoD consoles? I have one here which is otherwise unfixable, any ideas?
    If not, maybe the OP can find a way to work around bad flash chips?

    I did look into using multiple parallel connected xD cards but it looks like this won’t work sadly.

  • DeadlyFoez says:

    @SilverPalm, Actually, Marcan brought OtherOS back in the form of AsbestOS before graf even took a look at it.

  • John says:

    @xorpunk

    Don’t be stupid. I don’t have one piece of unlicensed software. I like to explore, and that’s what my PS3 allowed me to do- at one time, just what it was advertised to do. I still see commercials claiming that “it only does EVERYTHING”.

  • John says:

    And, another comment- You’re missing the goddamn point. I PAID for this functionality. PAID. I PAID for something that was advertised. If Fony’s so great, why didn’t they come up with another way to prevent thievery, instead of bending people who PAID over the barrel?

  • Masta Squidge says:

    @ Tony…

    There was an “announcement” claiming to be from anon that states the sole purpose for the attacks was as retaliation for Sony pulling the plug on “OtherOS”.

    Whether this is true or not I don’t know, but it can be found on youtube. Or could for a while.

  • FunPanda says:

    If I visit gitbrew’s site should I expect my IP address to be showing up in court documents soon courtesy of Sony? :)

  • someone says:

    @Masta Squidge
    Because Anonymous can be trusted.

  • SexieWASD says:

    In b4 lawsuit!

    Really though, is it going to be a surprise?

  • andrew says:

    fail0verflow were working on this but I guess Sony’s injunction stopped them

  • Maave says:

    F*** YEAH. Now put this on a PS3 laptop mod and prepare your head for imminent explosion.

  • Franta says:

    I’m writing my master’s thesis for Cell … I’m running it od PS3 … am I a pirate ?:)

  • Hoopstar says:

    What is the point of being able to run ‘other OS’?

    Does it mean that I can run some kind of user interface that is more friendly to using my TV as a video jukebox or MP3 player?

    I don’t play games on my PS3 – it is more a media player..

  • Pilotgeek says:

    @FunPanda : If you really are worried I could mirror it for you temporarily.

  • posimosh says:

    yes please pilot… or i could

  • Life2Death says:

    This is awesome, I may consider getting a PS3 again…

  • Necromant says:

    Owning since 1917? Hm… something tells me these comrades are from somewhere around exUSSR

  • Necromant says:

    Oh yeah, leyt sony haveatoughtime tracking those guys down

  • Me says:

    Umm, if this OtherOS is Linux-based, why would you show an image of the FreeBSD mascot, Beastie? That should have been a penguin instead, methinks…

  • Me says:

    (The “you” above being generalised, of course — meaning not Hack a Day but the OtherOS folks.)

  • xorpunk says:

    Like SCE stated long ago, you don’t have to upgrade..look at how many people are using the exploits for linux related things, and how many are using it for ‘backups’ and stolen content management..like I said..software pirates. Sorry if that’s not trendy..

  • xbmcUser says:

    XBMC on PS3 before x360? Thatd be a PS3 Slim for me than :)

  • Zeno Arrow says:

    @xorpunk
    Your ignorance is exemplary. OtherOS didn’t allow for PS3 game backups, even after the first cracks in the Hypervisor started showing up (courtesy of Geohot).

    Of course, if you opened your eyes to what was really happening with Sony removing OtherOS (that it was costing Sony money, as people were buying PS3s for uses other than gaming, the console cost is subsidised by game sales remember), then you’d see the truth, but don’t let facts stand in the way of what you believe, it’s all the evil pirates fault isn’t it. *rolleyes*

  • xorpunk says:

    @Zeno Arrow: Geohot’s HTAB entries were impossible without unsigned code..The people who did the backup-dongle, and the ones who later did the mailbox overflow and PKI reversing all did it off his exploit by reversing update manager and fuzzing SPU mailboxing with a remote debugger.

    So, I not only understand the social aspects of the events. But I’m sure you ‘experts’ have it all figured out xD

    I’m sure game ISOs are all over the net with cracks because DRM prevented people from playing them too xD xD

  • Otacon2k says:

    @xorpunk: You don’t get it, do you? Think of the following: You wanna buy a DVD player. To watch DVDs of course. Hey wait, on your harddisk you’ve got this collection of mp3s (backups of disks bought from hard earned money of course). Swapping CDs manually? That’s so 80′s, isn’t it? Why not buy a DVD-Player that can play MP3 as well? Said and done. There you are with your brandnew, shiny DVD-Player. With MP3-functionality. As advertised. Time goes by. All of a sudden your DVD-Player is updated. Where’s the MP3-funtionality? Gone? WTF? How are you gonna listen to your MP3s now? Didn’t you pay for this feature? Hmm…

  • Shaddack says:

    @xorpunk: Franta above mentioned his thesis being written for Cell.

    Even a single person like this is enough, with a wide margin, to justify the existence and availability of OtherOS.

    Besides, in some time the then-obsolete consoles will become ending in trash. Then they can turn into free-as-a-beer, highly powerful computer cores for various fun projects.

    Then there is the philosophical aspect of who should be allowed to decide what code can run on the owner’s hardware. I don’t understand the people who claim Sony should, instead of the hardware’s owner/possessor. In comparison with the seriousness of this issue, the entire problematics of “piracy” is about 20 dB below the noise floor.

  • xorpunk says:

    @Otacon2k: think unpatchable security hole on a device that processes credit card information and is capable of online banking ;)

    Your MP3 player analogy isn’t applicable.

    @Shaddack: What’s writing a thesis on the CELL processor got to do with piracy branching from abused vulnerability response?

    I guess the kewl thing to do would be to wait for malicious usage.. I see it now, I really am dumb for not being kewl..

  • ummm says:

    @Otacon2k:

    “All of a sudden your DVD-Player is updated”

    PS3 dont “suddenly” get updated lol. Try harder.

  • Shaddack says:

    @xorpunk: The creditcard security model is broken and unsuitable for internet transactions; it’s not the fault of PS3 nor any other device. As long as it will be cheaper for the banks to handle the complaints than to overhaul the infrastructure, we’re out of luck there. The entire thing is a sieve and one hole more or less does not really matter.

    The thesis is a much more significant issue than the piracy. Both use the same feature of the device. However the latter is unimportant in comparison to the former, and even if piracy is what drives development of tools for opening closed architectures, so be it. We use results of military research – originally intended to kill people – in our daily life, and here we argue about using the results of research also used to play games for free?

  • baruna says:

    Tragatela toda sony…

  • patxitron says:

    @ummm: no the PS3 dont suddenly get updated but in the DVD analogy, you can not watch new DVDs if you do not update it and if you do, then you can not play your legitimate mp3.

  • Volfram says:

    @xorpunk: You are either an idiot, or you are a filthy liar. Either way, you should stop leaving your excrement in the Hack-A-Day comments.

    “it’s just software pirates crying the blues now cause they have to pay for others hard work.” There are several problems with this statement. Allow me to list as many as I can think of specifically.

    1: Based on your logic, anything that can be used to commit a crime is useful only for committing a crime. If someone purchases a gun, they are planning on going on a shooting spree. If someone purchases a knife, they intend to stab someone to death. If someone is buying a soldering iron and screwdriver, by your logic, they intend to remove the case from an ATM, attach a credit skimmer to it, replace it, and steal credit card numbers. You have an internet connection, clearly you are conspiring cyberterrorism with a group of anonymous agents across the globe.

    2: Pirates don’t protest lockdowns like this. Honest customers who purchased their products legally and are now getting locked out due to faulty DRM(Assassin’s Creed 2 for PC. Launch day, the verification servers went down, and not a single legitimate customer could play the game. Everyone who pirated it was unaffected.) protest lockdowns like this. What’s more, the Playstation-based homebrew, hacking, and tinkering communities hate piracy possibly more than Sony themselves. If you’d ever gone to look at what the people you’re dismissing wholesale actually do, you’d find that even suggesting that you might consider using a custom firmware to run pirated software is the fast track to a ban, and furthermore, each of the custom PS3 firmwares released thus far have deliberately blocked backups from running. It would be easier to release an entirely unrestricted firmware, but

    3: OtherOS was keeping the Playstation 3 from getting hacked, and removing it caused hackers who had previously been happy with a somewhat-open system to target a system which was now closed. The hacking and tinkering communities touted the Playstation 3 loudly before the Slim was released, due to its ability to run a 3rd-party operating system without resorting to shady tricks like reflashing the optical drive’s firmware. It was not until it was announced that the Playstation 3 Slim would not include the OtherOS feature that anybody began looking for a way to run unauthorized code on the Playstation 3.

    Of course, you’re going to claim I’m wrong on each point, and you’re going to specifically take offense at my note that you are deliberately spreading libelous misinformation with intent to harm the social image of George Hotz, as well as the hacking and tinkering community in general. Nobody likes being called a liar, after all. Especially not if it’s true.

    Which in this case, it is.

  • krebs says:

    only reason i brought xbox 1 was because of XBMC, i brought 8 units over the years for friends and at home, I thought the original xbmc on the xbox was one of the most perfect hardware/software experiences out there, they are incredibly cheap now, Microsoft gained a lot of profit i would imagine from people ‘hacking their console’

    unfortunately, not really up to scratch compared with todays HTPC setups.. if somebody managed to port XBMC over to PS3 i would buy one in a heartbeat, in fact I would buy more than 1, so i find it insane that people are talking about ‘software pirates’ and as if that’s the only reason for modding the PS3.. i really don’t care about any games at all, last time i played one was about 2 years back

  • SoHighSamurai says:

    First of all Id like to say DAMN STRAIGHT VOLFRAM

    Sony has tried to take away the free flow of information. They have tried to stop A legal code(GeoHotz jailbreak) from being shared and tried rip it completely off the internet. Now weather or not you agree with Geo or the OTHER O.S feature is besides the point. It’s your freedoms and false advertizing that we should all be concerned about. If you let one company do this and get away with it, other company’s in the future well follow suit!
    Other prick things they have done. Sony has taken away multiple features of the ps3 that you paid for!!! The original ps3′s were defective and overheated causing the yellow light of death. This was happening to a massive amount of PS3′s. Instead of a recall, they charged $150 and gave you a refurbished one that didn’t even have all the options you paid for ….EMOTION CHIP(backwards compatible), 4 USB PORTS, SD,SD MINI,CF SLOTS,TOUCH SENSITIVE BUTTONS. Later, Sony panicked due to one guy(GeoHotz), and forced the removal of the “install another O.S.” feature(which you paid for). Now the PS3 can not be used as a computer which was another feature/reason people chose the ps3 over X-BOX. I hear people say that PSN is free so we don’t have a right to be upset about it being shut down….by the way nothing is for free. Well I say to that THE PSN WAS WAS ADVERTIZED ON THE SYSTEM BOX WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT AS A FREE NETWORK and is the reason a lot of people bought it instead of X-box 360.PSN was included free with our system purchase so we should expect the same quality as the paid for XBOX Live. How dare they use it as leverage to remove the O.S. When the system breach happened they didn’t give us any info for days about our financial information being downloaded, until they felt that we should be concerned. They should have alerted us right away so we could have taken prevented measures!!!! Who are they to decide if I should be informed about my financial security. 25 year loyal customer, and I have never seen Sony run so poorly. They need to do a hire and fire in management, or when the new systems come out there will be shift in the balance for console leaders. Sony has been slipping that big Co%k in so slowly that we are loosing track of how many inches are already in. Wouldn’t be surprised if Sony starts charging for the PSN in a bit saying that It has to do with better security and online services! Thanks for reading my rant I feel better already…or maybe Sony just started using lube……

    P.S I don’t know if any of you guys remember the Sony music CD scandal….. Sony got into trouble in November 2005 when it was discovered that the company used a rootkit on music CDs to limit the number of copies a person could make of the CD and to prevent making MP3 files from the music.

    The rootkit was a bad idea for several reasons. It hid from the user the fact that Sony had placed this copy protection, it sent information about the CD being played to Sony, and it had a loophole that a hacker could use to hide a virus that could take over someone’s computer. There was also no easy way to uninstall it.

    As far as betraying customers’ trust goes, that’s pretty high up there on the list of things that are hard to recover from.

    Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20058433-260.html#ixzz1LeDGhBrr

  • SoHighSamurai says:

    WE ALL NEED TO STICK TOGETHER AND STOP SONY FROM GETTING AWAY WITH THIS. THAT’S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THESE MASSIVE CORPORATIONS FROM DOING WHAT EVER THEY WAN’T

  • xorpunk says:

    people who bottom line subjects based on convenience are entertaining..

  • SuperSparky says:

    Sony makes the PS3, and they have every right to make it how they see fit. Firmware updates have always been optional. PSN is a service, want to use the service? Well, then have the required firmware.

    Nobody is forcing people to upgrade their firmware.

    Sony makes the PS3, not as a means to support a bunch of self-righteous whiny ninnies who can’t stand it when they don’t get their way, but makes it for profit.

    Profit is the incentive to create something like the PS3 and the games they license. These “big corporations” are owned by stockholders, most of which have the majority of pensions and IRA investments. In other words, average people own stock in corporations. They do this to gain an increase on their investment. As such, Sony must protect the interests of the stockholders and show them a profit (dividends).

    Governments are the ones that must honor rights. Nothing says you have a right to anything a company sells or manufactures. Don’t like it? Well, then go buy someone else’s products.

    What little whiny brats have no right to do is commit a criminal act just because they don’t like how a company does business. Just don’t buy from them. What Sony did by removing OtherOS was not criminal, but some think it justifies criminal behavior because they didn’t like that decision. No, I am not talking about piracy. Want to keep OtherOS? Fine, don’t upgrade the firmware. To the MP3 guy, want to keep MP3 functionality on your DVD player? Simple, don’t upgrade its firmware.

    Nothing in life is free. Even PSN is not free, someone somewhere is paying for it.

    It’s because of crooks things like DRM exist at all. It’s because of whiny hackers that things have to be locked down, firewalls exist, locks are made, etc. It is irresponsible to say that more piracy would not result from these hacks. Maybe you won’t, but if you make things easier for a crook, then more crooks tend to exploit that weakness.

    Am I saying Sony’s decision to remove OtherOS was the right decision? Heck no, I think they are learning that right now the hard way. However, it does not justify criminal behavior to “punish” them.

    Now, let the flames fly.

  • John says:

    @SuperSparky

    Fine. Give me the monetary value of the feature that was stripped back. Sound fair? Now, how do you place a value on that feature? Considering I own 5 games and used the PS3 primarily for learning- something that was “OK” at the time I bought it, I’d say that I need the majority of the cost back. That’s fair. To dupe this type of user out of $350 and then snatch the feature back after updates, not so much.

  • John says:

    Not upgrading strips other functionality THAT WE PAID FOR. Do you have a money machine in your ass? Is that why it’s no big deal to you???

  • Shaddack says:

    @SuperSparky: If corporations have these rights, then we have a similar set of rights. If they can do whatever with a thing just because they made it, in the name of protecting their profits, we can do whatever with a thing we bought, in the name of protecting our enjoyment. On the legal field, the corporations can buy (errrr… lobby for) laws, and we can buy soldering irons.

    When I buy a shirt, I can mod it, add another pocket, tie-dye it, alter its functionality as I please. Same with furniture and pretty much everything else. Why should electronics be anything different?

  • Matt says:

    In my experience, open source software users are much less likely to pirate software than other kinds of computer users. When I was younger, in my teens, I used to do lots of torrenting of games and software etc, but now since I started using Linux and OSS as my software of choice I appreciate software development much more. I haven’t pirated software in years, I payed twice as much as the average windows user for all three Humble Indie Bundles, I’ve bought loads of old games on Amazon to play using Wine which I could have pirated in a fraction of the time. I think you are underestimating us xorpunk. The vast majority of people who care about the OtherOS feature on PS3 are Linux users who care about open source and appreciate developers hard work. Piracy hurts open source software because it encourages people to get paid software for free instead of using the great free as in freedom and free as in free beer alternatives. Having the OtherOS feature is great as it encourages younger people to tinker with computers and hardware, and start to gain an interest in computer science.

    There is some very interesting research being done on using GPU at kernel level to compute operating system tasks, rather than just being used in userspace as is posssible now with CUDA and OpenCL technologies. If this was leveraged on the PS3 it could potentially turn it into an even more powerful computer, very exciting!

  • maxx says:

    My 60G PS3 still has my linux partition burried inside it that can’t be locate. It has been fun playing with Linux on my PS3 and always learning something new. But now I have to wait to see if there is a way to get OtherOS back by using a bootable disc or something.

  • Volfram says:

    @xorpunk: “people who bottom line subjects based on convenience are entertaining..”

    You mean like you did?

  • xorpunk says:

    @Volfram: I gave technical and economical reasoning..nice troll though kiddy

  • Volfram says:

    @xorpunk: We’ve been over this. The technical and economic reasons you provided are blatant lies. What you marginalized are the CELL research projects and the PS3 clusters used by the USAF and by universities across the world, so not only are you a dirty liar, you’re a hypocrite.

    Speaking of hypocrites, that trolling accusation is funny coming from the guy telling a HACKING community that the only people who want to use Linux on what is still the most cost-effective machine it’s usable on are pirates.

    Linux users aren’t pirates. In fact, the average Linux user average double the payment per person over Windows or Mac users on “pay what you want” sales for indie games. That IS the bottom line, and it’s not convenient. It’s true.

  • Will says:

    @xorpunk Take you half-assed comments off HaD, you don’t deserve to be here, you fucking snoob

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