Expanding Horizons With The Ion Propelled Lifter

Like many people, going through university followed an intense career building period was a dry spell in terms of making things. Of course things settled down and I finally broke that dry spell to work on what I called “non-conventional propulsion”.

I wanted to stay away from the term “anti-gravity” because I was enough of a science nut to know that such a thing was dubious. But I also suspected that there might be science principles yet to be discovered. I was willing to give it a try anyway, and did for a few years. It was also my introduction to the world of high voltage… DC. Everything came out null though, meaning that any effects could be accounted for by some form of ionization or Coulomb force. At no time did I get anything to actually fly, though there was a lot of spinning things on rotors or weight changes on scales and balances due to ion propulsion.

So when a video appeared in 2001 from a small company called Transdimensional Technologies of a triangle shaped, aluminum foil and wire thing called a lifter that actually propelled itself off the table, I immediately had to make one. I’d had enough background by then to be confident that it was flying using ion propulsion. And in fact, given my background I was able to put an enhancement in my first version that others came up with only later.

For those who’ve never seen a lifter, it’s extremely simple. Think of it as a very leaky capacitor. One electrode is an aluminum foil skirt, in the shape of a triangle. Spaced apart from that around an inch or so away, usually using 1/6″ balsa wood sticks, is a very thin bare wire (think 30AWG) also shaped as a triangle. High voltage is applied between the foil skirt and the wire. The result is that a downward jet of air is created around and through the middle of the triangle and the lifter flies up off the table. But that is just the barest explanation of how it works. We must go deeper!

The Unsteady Lightweight

For a lifter to succeed it has to be extremely lightweight. There’s no chance of carrying the power supply along. A typical lifter with 4″ (100mm) sides weighs in at just 0.07 ounces (2 grams).

If you’ve ever seen one lift off while the voltage is gradually turned up you’ll have noticed that its flight path is highly erratic until the voltage is sufficiently high that it appears to hover. The truth is, the flight still is erratic, or would be, if it weren’t for three threads tied to the legs, tethering each corner down. Typically the propulsion produced by the three sides of the triangle is not even and so to get it stable, all three sides have to be propelling enough to lift their respective sides. That means that the strongest side is propelling more than it needs to and the weakest side is propelling just as much as it needs to. The threads holding it down make it look stable at that point.

It wasn’t long after the first lifter was flying that variations were also being made: multiple triangles connected together, spirals instead of triangles, even foil tubes in place of the straight sided skirts.

I recall one from Asia (I seem to remember it was in Japan but am not sure) that was room sized and flew in a large garage or warehouse. The documented record for payload is a 98 gram hexagonal shaped lifter lifting a 102 gram payload using 40kV from a specially made 1000 watt power supply. This isn’t the answer to how to fly like Iron Man.

How It Works

The lifter flies using ion propulsion. The key is that one electrode acts as a sharp point and the other acts as a smooth edge. The thin wire is the sharp point. Mine is usually positive. Any sharp point at sufficiently high voltage in air ionizes the air around it. That’s due to the strong electric field there. The foil skirt is the smooth edge and is at the opposite polarity, negative and connected to ground in my case. Having a large surface area, the electric field there is weaker and so there’s less ionization. The enhancement I made in my first version was to make the edge of the foil closest to the wire be rounded, resulting in an even weaker electric field. When I tried following the plans of others without the rounding, it was more difficult to get it to lift off. Having an asymmetric electric field as created by sharp and smooth electrodes is essential to this form of ion propulsion.

How lifter ion propulsion works
How lifter ion propulsion works

The positive ions are attracted to the negative skirt. Some get to the skirt and are neutralized, and some collide along the way with neutral air molecules and impart momentum to them. The neutral molecules then continue in a generally downward direction. The resulting downward flowing jet is made up of these neutral molecules, though I’ve found some evidence that a few positive ions also make it past the skirt. The momentum is passed from the ions to the lifter through the electric field during the collisions. Think of the electric field as arms and hands that are physically a part of the lifter and the ions as balls. A ion colliding with a neutral atom is analogous to the ball in your hand smacking into another ball. When the balls smacking together it pushes your hand in the opposite direction. The same happens to create ion propulsion.

Electrons also play a part but with the wire being positive in my example they play more of a part in creating the positive ions than in transferring momentum.

Smoke And Vacuum Tests

Smoke tests show the large mass of air rapidly moving downward through and around the middle of the triangle. I’ve tested this using smoke from an incense stick. Not only did that clearly show the moving air mass, but as you can see in the last photo, I captured a glowing piece of the incense break off and be rapidly carried away in the moving air mass.

While there have been a mix of results in vacuum chambers with lifters and sharp object/smooth object arrangements, any resulting movement is always tiny compared to a flying lifter. Sometimes the experiment is a device suspended along a torsion wire with a small twist produced in the wire. A larger twist is achieved by turning the power supply on and off in time to the movement, but the resulting larger twist is simply the result of resonance, the same as happens when you apply force to a swing at just the right point in its arc to make it swing higher yet.

Tips And Tricks

A lot of people who try to fly a lifter fail because their power source isn’t powerful enough. The original video by Transdimensional Technologies showed a Van de Graaff generator with a dome of approximately 14″. I tried with my own 14″ dome VDG and judging by the bluish ionization it came up woefully short, even for a 2″ lifter.

PC monitor power supply powering lifter
PC monitor power supply powering lifter

To make a 0.07 ounces (2 grams) lifter fly requires 25kV and somewhere above 250 microamps (the analog meter I was willing to sacrifice topped out at 250 microamps.) I’ve read of a 0.18 ounce (5 gram) lifter requiring 37kV and 1.7 milliamps. For that you’re talking about a wall powered Cockcroft-Walton voltage multiplier power supply. An old CRT PC monitor has that and is easily adapted to fly lifters. Some sparks can contain enough current to cause damage to some power supplies, especially PC monitor power supplies. To protect against that use around 240 kiloohms of at least 2 watt rated resistance in series with the input to the lifter. I usually put it on the ground side since that doesn’t have as many issues with leakage.

Note that I once tried flying a lifter from a dusty floor and it didn’t work. I suspect that the dust was getting positively charged by positive ions getting past the skirt. That would result in the positively charged floor attracting the negative skirt down. So stay away from dusty surfaces.

But the best tip for getting a lifter to fly is to do it in total darkness — while taking all safety precautions. In darkness the corona that is the ionization is visible as a bluish glow. This way you can tell which sides of the triangle are contributing to the lift. Often you’ll find it’s just one side. After turning on the lights and turning off and discharging  the power supply and the lifter, try moving the wires on the other sides closer to the foil skirt, or the ionizing one further away. If you get sparks then you’ve moved the wires too close. Sparks are the enemy of ion propulsion since they are a shorting out of the electric field that produces the ions.

And that’s a brain dump from my experience with lifters. Have you done any ion propulsion in any form? Perhaps you’ve done the much simpler spinning needle form in school? We’d love to hear about your experiences. Let us know in the comments below.

39 thoughts on “Expanding Horizons With The Ion Propelled Lifter

    1. Oh be nice!

      Interesting fact about that photo. I asked Steven if he could pose with one of his Lifters for the image at the top of the article and he said he didn’t have any left around. Two hours later he comes back and tells me he built one and got it flying for this picture. Now that’s an impressive afternoon hack!

    2. I was going for more of a friendly neighborhood mad scientist look.
      And Mike, it was 11:30pm in my time zone when I got it to you. I probably would have just wasted the evening otherwise so thanks for asking for it. Also, a lucky time since I could make it completely dark in the room to see the corona (in case anyone missed it that’s the final tip in the above post.)

    3. I did build the simple triangle lifter and used the back of a computer screen to power it. Still looking for a viable power to weight design and power source, I am playing with the idea of alternative materials, both in higher lifting characteristics, such as silver coated magnesium or graphene corona wire and reduced surface wire mesh collector tube. Several HV Multiplier in 5,000 volt 0.3ma. Last is a viable power source with a power to weight ratio that is not off the shelf yet. Graphene Super Capacitors is the only way. What I do not have is the design. Is it stacked or spared out? Small or large? What is the surface area calculation to lift a 1000 lbs? I suspect it will be a tubular frame of carbon fiber made in the bicycle industry or perhaps a panel system like those from http://www.ayrescom.com . Mounting of the lifter will need to be on a simple hydraulic or electric 3D gimbals for thrust vectoring. Now lets imagine a four seater, like a Tesla S Model with no wheels, but rather the undercarriage or over carriage of lifters. Lets get to work!

      1. I once did some calcs comparing the energy required for the approx. 2 gram triangular lifter in the video to hover and the energy in a supercapacitor and the supercapacitor had the needed energy for a few seconds at least. However, that didn’t take into account the losses in stepping up the voltage, or the weight of anything onboard except the lifter.

        26,000V x 0.000275A for hover = 7.15W = 7.15J/s

        Using.https://www.sparkfun.com/products/746 This one is 10F/2.5V
        supercapacitor energy = 1/2CV^2 = 31.25J

        Note, the 0.000275A is low but it was the highest my analog ammeter could go for the range. The needle went off scale.

        Certainly going with a thinner wire than the usual 30 gauge will reduce the power required to make the lifter fly

        This lifter holds the record for how much mass it could lift, 100 grams, and the lifter weighed 98 grams:

    1. The degauss normally runs directly off of the mains supply and is current-limited by a PTC thrmistor that provides an initial surge of current that fades-away quickly. Unless you’re operating your outlet on the border of overload there should be no interaction of the circuits…

      1. “no interaction of the circuits”

        well normally there is no interaction, but the wires used in this expierement are very lightweight and would be “shaken” by the degauss coil, im thinking the craft would loose control, fall, maybe short out, and maybe even fold up into a ball? well something anyway…

  1. Ah, this brings back memories. Ran a small club at college for building Lifters. Was even the entertainment for a kid’s birthday party, showing the kids how to build Lifters. 10 kids + high voltage, sure why not! Used those skills and now have a patent on a plasma thruster for CubeSats. I cannot stress enough the importance of hands on learning! And the occasional clown nose.

  2. I’ve often wondered whether there is some science to be discovered in these things.

    For instance, I would guess that most of the ions generated by the wire hit the rolled-over top of the foil. If you had two wires a short distance apart, then the electrons will approach the foil at a slight angle, and perhaps miss the top fold completely.

    Would that make a more efficient lifter?

    Then is it possible to make a “stacked” version of the foil leaves to get more thrust?

    It seems like there should be an application for these things, but I don’t know what that would be.

    1. The ion thrusters used in space do use meshes where a lifter has the foil. In that case positive ions are accelerated through the meshes and there’s care take in the meshes to make sure a certain percentage get through. But once the positive ions have exited the back of the engine, they may still be attracted back to the engine. To counter that they have a negative charge sprayer outside the engine that sprays negative charge at the departing positive ions to neutralize them. Once neutralized there’s not backward attraction and they keep going. http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/DawnClassrooms/2_ion_prop/inter_syn/2_sr_trip.pdf
      As for stacked lifters, a few have experimented with stacked ones but off-hand I don’t recall any rigorous comparisons. The how-it-works paper I link to above (here’s the full one you get if you click through http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/469/2154/20120623.full, done in October 2012) includes experiments with a dual-stage thruster.

      1. I was thinking about the kelvin water dropper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper and its variations with a pump. Consider one of the variations with a pump, but replace the pump with a passive tube, and apply HV instead of having a spark gap. Could larger (compared to ions but still tiny) charged water droplets be more efficient? It’s probably a bad idea…

        I was thinking in 2 senses:
        1) analogous to the classic thrusters: the propellant is still the air, but the working fluid to transfer momentum to atmospheric air propellant would be the mist of larger in cross section water droplets (instead of single ions). The thruster should be designed to collect the droplets back while still efficiently allowing air to pass on…
        2) analogous to rockets: in this case the heavier water droplets are the propellant, and will be consumed (!) a positive and negative jet of water could be aimed to combine so as to neutralize and keep charge balance.

        But again, probably makes no sense and only serves to increase weight…

  3. These things are good fun. Not so easy to get things smooth and [really] light. Not to mention the power requirements. Still if you’re bored and don’t have much to spare in your junk box they are reasonably fun. I do enjoy the smell of ozone. [plasma burns and tingly fingers, not so much]

    On a slight side note; wooden kitchen skewers split down their length straight enough to produce very thin, light and reasonably strong strips.

  4. Ugh, these things got way too much coverage back the day. I remember EVERYONE wanting to build one in college as a project, either for class or a side project. The ionic breeze was popular too, then everyone realized that ozone is terrible for your lungs and just about all the materials in your home.

    I’m just waiting for an article about how neato a wheel and stick are or some ginger guy to show up on a unicycle, juggling and blowing off about how great he is for being into old timey shit or how pokemon somehow being cool again…

    oh wait..!

  5. We are actually doing something similar with the propulsion system for a CubeSat our team is designing to compete in the NASA CubeQuest challenge. Our thrusters were recently tested in one of the vacuum chambers at Georgia Tech ( http://miles-space.com/news/weekly-round-table-6-will-suck-electric-spacecraft-propulsion-vacuum-chamber-testing/ ) and showed pretty impressive results using Xenon gas to create the plasma. We’re currently crowdfunding further development on the propulsion system to enable us to move forward in the Cube Quest challenge ( http://kickstarter.miles-space.com ).

    1. Thanks for the link, Interesting video because they managed to get the HV power supply on-board, something you could never do with a classic lifter like the one in the article.

  6. How about a funnel-like design where a couple “lifters” are placed sideways to accelerate the air into a spiraling motion before exiting something like a nozzle. One could start with just 3-4 sets of wire + foil placed inside a cone with both ends open to test. If results are promising, then a denser setup with 6-12 sets could be powered in sequence to accelerate the ions even more. Same power requirements but the output velocity should be much greater.

    1. Tried a funnel (aka 1/2 a 2-liter bottle) and got more lift than expected. I think the faster moving air on the inside made lower pressure and it acted like a wing of sorts: fast/low-pressure on “top”, normal/high-pressure on “bottom”. Tried adding a wire to the front of a styrofoam RC plane wing, and measured lift with a fan for air flow. 18% greater lift with the wire. That’s called a plasma actuator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_actuator

  7. How about a funnel-like design where a couple “lifters” are placed sideways to accelerate the air into a spiraling motion before exiting something like a nozzle, similar with the centrifugal designs of the bag-less vacuum cleaners. One could start with just 3-4 sets of wire + foil placed inside a cone with both ends open to test. If results are promising, then a denser setup with 6-12 sets could be powered in sequence to accelerate the ions even more. Same power requirements but the output velocity for the air should be much greater.

  8. Sorry about the double post. HAD shows me no feedback when posting.
    Regarding the plasma actuator, there are multiple ways to accelerate ions: (1) centrifugal, where the electrodes go parallel with the axis of the cone and power is applied in sequence to pairs of electrodes, (2) multistage coaxial where the electrodes are perpendicular to the axis of the cone in a similar model with the Dyson air multipler fan to get more air to move. Which of these did you try?

  9. It is all known physics, just that according to the article above (http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/469/2154/20120623.full) we should be looking into increasing thrust to power ratio through engineering a better system. The authors claim “F/Pth is in the range 1.23–3.24 N kW−1 with a mean of 2.22 N kW−1” or “2.46 N kW−1” for a jet engine. In comparison, they claim “F/P degrades with increasing thrust (and so increasing voltage) consistent with equation (2.6). For example, for d=21 cm, F/P peaks at 110 N kW−1 (or averaging 68 N kW−1 for all power levels below 1 W), and reduces to 16 N kW−1 at 0.35 N of thrust, compared with values of approximately 2 N kW−1 for current aircraft engines (or approx. 4 N kW−1 if the core thermal efficiency is factored out). This does not imply that EHD thrusters are practical, but it does point to their potential for relatively high efficiency where efficiency is defined as thrust per unit power”.

    So, it would be interesting to see some calculations for a switched radial/centrifugal design that would be mechanically much simpler than say a VASIMIR plasma engine and suitable for small satellites (e.g. cubesats) carrying a tiny amount of fuel. To counter any rotational issues, one could have a pair of funnels side by side or in a concentric design. Probably much better chance of success than the other EmDrive attempt posted here: https://hackaday.io/project/10166-flying-an-emdrive

  10. Could a quadcopter be constructed with 4 separate lifters with their own variable power sources and possibly external computer vision system to control direction etc? This way the craft would not have any power source or control circuits on board to keep it light. Would be neat if a computer vision system could make attitude corrections fast enough between the 4 separate hv sources to cause level flight and height control without tie-down tethers?

  11. Hi Everyone,

    It is true lifters seemed like they would never lift their own power supply, because the thrust to weight ratio was just too low. I started doing ion propulsion experiments about 19 years ago. I always called them ionocrafts or ion thrusters/rockets, the name lifter wasn’t invented yet and usually conjures up an image of a small flying triangle connected to a large external power supply. I started with large external power supplies just like everyone else. I designed a simple device with lots of holes in aluminum foil and emitter needles hanging over the holes. After a couple of years and thousand of experiments, I reduced the size of the power supply by a large amount. I then started to make very large surface area lightweight devices powered by similar small lightweight high voltage circuits. I often tested thrust levels by hanging the crafts from a postage scale. I had to do a crazy amount of research and make lots of changes, but I now have a similar device that flies with the power supply onboard!… Most people said ion propulsion could never lift its power supply. I have posted the specific physics details of how it was done and how it is built online.

    There is now a patent ,website, and 6 online videos for the craft showing it flying with its onboard power supply! Here is a link to get anyone that is interested started:

  12. I love, this stuff, still keep coming back to this post. I’ve just gotten into lifters. I cant for the life of me get mine off the ground, but Ive made a few electric wings move forwards. Basically paper aeroplanes made of foil, with thin wire in front. The anode cathode separators in my lifters (cockatil sticks or drinking straws) seem to keep catching fire, but I do see my vehicles shaking at a certain voltage so Im confident I’ll get there eventually.

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